Mass Alien Grave in Mexico ?

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DNA Anyone ...?

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mimicry is the highest form of flattery

that does look different to any other

deformed skulls that i have seen

but the experts have already spoken

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As a thought, is it possible to get a head like that by binding during infant years?

Thats possible [ I guess ] but it raises a question , why would they elongate their head ? Are they copying from someone [ or Lets say from Alien ] ?

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Not sure really. The Huns (allegedly) did it in order to terrify their opponents / enemies (anyone in the way). Which, lets face it, was probably rather a good trick back in the day. So possibly something similar? Maybe it elevated them above the normal tribes people, ie a way of denoting "aristocratic class" (for want of a better description).

The point being if they do it when they are young enough, in theory it would not hurt as much and some decent shapes could be achieved. It would be weird though.

These people weren't aliens. They weren't intentionally formed by suppressing the skull either. They were just a very intelligent type of humanoid that once lived. The people that try to elongate their skulls are just trying to copy the shape of the head of the old Gods. These Humanoids must have really impressed the humans to have been given this status long ago. These guys outlived the neanderthals and finally went extinct within a couple thousand years or so. Not aliens guys, for some reason they are denying their existance. Is it because there are some of these advanced beings still alive somewhere in the world? Maybe they are flying those UFOs around.

I don't automatically believe the ones that give us scientific information. I compare evidence like this to ancient writings and to traditions, looking as to the origination of the tradition and not the tradition itself. I examine our present technology and try to figure out where it originated from. Just because someone got credit for designing something doesn't mean it didn't exist before that, that is when it got commercialized or the knowledge stolen from those who passed this knowledge on from generation to generation.

For example, who really invented gunpowder? Who invented the gun or cannon? How long ago? The Asians have been using gunpowder for thousands of years, where did they learn this from? This is the first recorded use of it, it could have been orally passed down for thousands of years before that. We can't automatically say things are as they appear in textbooks.

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I agree that oral tradition shouldn't be dismissed. However, there are inherent problems also with oral traditions - just think of a game of chinese whispers played over thousands of years - for example, you could easily see how something like " a race of man that could shape and form metal" would become "a race of giants that moulded the heavens".

Basically, it should all taken with a very heavy pinch of salt.

With over half of them INTENTIONAL, and in an area where its commonplace for some societies past to do....your thread title is way off.

Its sure not ALIEN as some were intentionally misformed, and not a mass either at 50% either one or the other.

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These skulls could have been a certain genetic strain of humans also that were very intelligent because of the shape and size of their skulls. They don't have to be a different Humanoid.

A few hundred years ago the scientists in England were chosen because of the size of their head. This does have some basis but the size of the head does not portray the chemical structure of the brain. There was also a trend to think people who ate hazelnuts were smarter than those who didn't. This could have some basis because of the nutritional and chemical properties of nuts.

Another thing that is important, people like medicine men, Shamen, and even the monks used traditional methods of passing knowledge down that protected this information from corruption. Things were put into songs, sayings, or chants that never changed. Don't discount real passed down oral history by what normal people do, examine the ancient trained experts in society to help find the truth. Science does this on a regular basis but we aren't supposed to be aware of it. This knowledge is the basis of most of our medicines we have today.

Originally posted by UltraMarine
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As a thought, is it possible to get a head like that by binding during infant years?

Thats possible [ I guess ] but it raises a question , why would they elongate their head ? Are they copying from someone [ or Lets say from Alien ] ?

The chinese used to do foot binding for social status and to appear cosmetically more appealing (well atleast to them) im guessing its the same kind of reasoning for head binding.

If we assume that aliens with elongated heads visited races all over the world in ancient times and that people got into the habit of binding the heads of their children in order to make them look like these aliens/gods, thereby giving their kids a possible advantage in life if people treated them as royalty, then we can no longer distinguish between real alien skeletons with cone-shaped skulls and skeletons of humans subject to head-binding when children.

It is only their DNA that would be decisive in checking these skeletons.

Originally posted by micpsi
If we assume that aliens with elongated heads visited races all over the world in ancient times and that people got into the habit of binding the heads of their children in order to make them look like these aliens/gods, thereby giving their kids a possible advantage in life if people treated them as royalty, then we can no longer distinguish between real alien skeletons with cone-shaped skulls and skeletons of humans subject to head-binding when children.

It is only their DNA that would be decisive in checking these skeletons.

I've read quite a few articles on this subject over the last few years. The bound skulls can easily be differentiated from the real skulls. I know someone that has actually seen these skulls and they have a different suture line to them I guess. Not sure what exactly that means even though I know what a suture is. Originally they were said to be fake because the suture lines did not match present humans. How ridiculous of a conclusion that was. I don't think they are alien. I think they are real though. If they can irradiate a little fruit and make it turn into a grapefruit that passes on to future generations, just think what natural radiation could do to humans. I guess we will find out if those nuclear plants go wild. The People will look back at our skulls and say we compressed them to make them our shape in a thousand years when all survivors have cone heads.

Originally posted by hellobruce

Originally posted by redeyeblue
The more interesting aspect of these and other skulls found, is why they choose to do this?

If some peoples bodies were dug up in the future questions may be asked why have some people got silly looking tatoos, or are covered in funny piercings.....

Why did they choose to have tatoos or piercings?

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I think your nit picking here, tattoo's and piercings are common throughout every country and every culture on every continent. The same cannot be said for head deformation, if you take some Asian cultures like the Japanese who practiced foot binding we know why they did it. We know why some African cultures practiced neck lengthening, but head deformation is more extreme and dangerous so the reason had to be significant.

Originally posted by UltraMarine..

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Not aliens..

UFO researcher should be careful attributing these finds to "aliens" where there are not a single proof of extra-terrestrial visitation. Cultural habits in ancient world sometimes do these kind of things, deforming the body for some kind of purpose. chinese once do that to girl's feet, some culture put rings on the neck, some put earring so heavy their earlobe became big, some put things in nose..

these 'finds' reeks sensationalism. we should NEVER attribute EVERYTHING we dont understand to 'aliens' or 'ufo' or 'conspiracy'.. do the research first, compare it with natural causes, with human creation and after we exhaust everything then we can mark the find as 'UNEXPLAINABLE' but under no circumstances we should directly put forth a conclusion that its an alien thingy. Witness the debacle and sensationalism of the Baltic Sea thing..

As a reminder, a great skeptic-turned-believer scientist Hynek found out that for most part of cases he reviewed , almost everything can be explained, BUT its the small number of cases that cant be explained that bothers him. note that he dont attribute these cases to aliens but he just mark them as UNEXPLAINED.

Originally posted by milomilo
UFO researcher should be careful attributing these finds to "aliens" where there are not a single proof of extra-terrestrial visitation. Cultural habits in ancient world sometimes do these kind of things, deforming the body for some kind of purpose. chinese once do that to girl's feet, some culture put rings on the neck, some put earring so heavy their earlobe became big, some put things in nose..

these 'finds' reeks sensationalism. we should NEVER attribute EVERYTHING we dont understand to 'aliens' or 'ufo' or 'conspiracy'.. do the research first, compare it with natural causes, with human creation and after we exhaust everything then we can mark the find as 'UNEXPLAINABLE' but under no circumstances we should directly put forth a conclusion that its an alien thingy. Witness the debacle and sensationalism of the Baltic Sea thing..

As a reminder, a great skeptic-turned-believer scientist Hynek found out that for most part of cases he reviewed , almost everything can be explained, BUT its the small number of cases that cant be explained that bothers him. note that he dont attribute these cases to aliens but he just mark them as UNEXPLAINED.

But the real difference is that Hynek did not rule out the ETH for those cases that remained unknown or un explainable after scientific investigation like you are trying to do.The ET possibility is a very plausible one and should be considered and included until it can be proved that there is no possibility of it having a stake.

The whole "skull binding" argument do not explain the infants found with elongated skulls - when those are found the official explanation is "birth deformities". You can never win this discussion here on ATS.

Originally posted by MerkabaMeditation
The whole "skull binding" argument do not explain the infants found with elongated skulls

Yes it does, as they start the binding on babies.... or do you think that they do it on adults?

Originally posted by MerkabaMeditation
The whole "skull binding" argument do not explain the infants found with elongated skulls - when those are found the official explanation is "birth deformities". You can never win this discussion here on ATS.

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Heres an example

Originally posted by anomalie

I don't reckon it's inconceivable that these people realized that, at a very young age, the skull isn't hardened into its final form and therefore subject to manipulation...

Also, if you are a warrior class of people, elongating your skull may prove to have a profound affect on the psyche of your enemies on the battlefield. Imagine a time when most combat was fought at close quarter range and all of your enemies were a foot taller than your tallest man.

Would eye sockets change their size in accordance to intentional skull deformation or is that what we need to be looking at here? While skull binding does happen, the size of those eye sockets are extraordinarily large!!