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Originally posted by galadofwarthethird
reply to post by Eidolon23
[ But I wont be the one to do it, even though something tells me to do it, if just for the lolz.:
not that there actually is a race going on
Originally posted by MidnightSunshine
reply to post by Eidolon23
Eidolon, you stole the words right out of my mouth, twisted them up, added a whole bunch of better ones, and dropped them in to this awesome post!!!
Thanks
Originally posted by minnow
s & f
that's not a stretch at all to infer, reasonably.
now, how's about cause & effect, and whats ur prognosis?
If not you, then who?
There is a race, but only one runner.
Originally posted by galadofwarthethird
Ah so you were born back when Fred Flintstones had to peddle his car to work, the dark ages knows as the 60s. Rocking.
Originally posted by galadofwarthethird
I don't know about that whole study thing, I suppose everybody just needs to get laid more often and to get hugged more often. But then again it all can turn into a bonobo type society, in fact seems to be were its heading, but then again what works for bonobos is just as likely to work for humans. But then again its all kind of been done before many times before.
Originally posted by galadofwarthethird
Violence however is a primal thing, in fact physical violence is one of the least things anybody may have to worry about, of all the forms and ways anybody can do violence I would say physical violence is kind of the last or the end product of a long chain of events on things, mental violence or the traps our society always sets in the guise of "good" are much worse and usually what lead people to that physical violent end aspect of it.
Originally posted by galadofwarthethird
And things in this world are kind of turned inside out and upside down, we life in a very complex illusory existence, and the things that really trap people are usually the things that they least expect, or even the things they are attracted to, or even the things that they have been conditioned to. In a way violence is kind of the nature of the universe even particles collide and when they do, there usually insures a boom and that energy changes form or expands, but that to is just practical aspect of it all, and no matter what you do it will always be like that, and usually when you switch things up, or paradigms or even those in power you are merely switching the way those triggers are brought on.... Anyways interesting link.
Originally posted by galadofwarthethird
reply to post by Eidolon23
Ah trying to go all yoda on me.
Violence however is a primal thing, in fact physical violence is one of the least things anybody may have to worry about, of all the forms and ways anybody can do violence I would say physical violence is kind of the last or the end product of a long chain of events on things, mental violence or the traps our society always sets in the guise of "good" are much worse and usually what lead people to that physical violent end aspect of it.
But at some point in the breakdown of capitalist society-- it says it right on the cover of his book-- that moral superiority isn't enough. Are you not a person who works hard and plays by the rules? You still want to have nice things, you still want to get nice women, you still want to feel some power, which in a normally functioning society you would be able to get in your own natural way. But when there's unemployment and debt and your wife leaves you, and it looks like these are happening because the social contract has failed, because jerks are taking from you, those real losses aren't sufficiently compensated by "at least I'm not a jerk." Extend that to Wall Street stealing your savings and feeling no shame, having no punishment, and all we can do is pretend that our moral superiority is enough compensation, and of course it isn't.
thelastpsychiatrist.com...
Make that Glam Rocking. The article was written in '75, I think, and I was born a couple or three years prior to that, so no, not the '60s. Ta very much!
I think we are more like Chimpanzees who trade sex for food and status, Bonobos are perhaps more along the lines of what we should aspire to. But then again no.
If you had read the article, which clearly you didn't, you would appreciate that the key is breaking down social taboos towards none-sexual physical intimacy, not to increasing sexual expression. We as a species, via Westernisation, have become ashamed of our bodies, and in many cases, have allowed the objectification of the body as only a sexual thing. This is what distances us from each other, stops us, touching, stroking and cuddling each other as a means of expressing none sexual expression. As sensual creatures, we need that stimulation. Unlike the Bonobos, our pleasure centres are not only centred in our genitalia, they run throughout our skin, which is why the simple act of holding another's hand can provide so much comfort to another.
We have developed this way for a reason, it serves an important purpose, and the more we understand that we are sensual creatures the greater our ability to function better as a cohesive society.
I disagree in part. What we do is fail to perceive the world, and our existence within it with all of our senses. Something is not real just because we can kick it, and vice versa. There is so much more to perception than that. Energy as you describe it, is not destructive, it transmutates and transforms through collision, it does not simply set out destroy, that intent, which we as humans express through violence, the need to destroy that which we feel is denied to us and our possession, is not natural. Not in the least.
They are the product of middle to upper-middle class homes. They are described as intelligent and well educated, but socially isolated. They perceive themselves to be the victim of injustice at the hands of parents and peers, or larger institutions. They are unable to establish a sexual relationship, and may even harbor deeply misogynistic views
Originally posted by Eidolon23
And then he pretty much tore me a new rhetorical orifice over the same argument when I applied it to cultural templates (imbalance of anti-heroes to actual heroes). He pointed out that for most people (himself included) good character = boring. That if you abide by the social contract, and watch people who don't get the things you feel entitled to, one of the ways you will cope is by identifying with an anti-hero. That it is a form of release rather than pumping poison into an abscessed wound (as I would have it). I don't entirely agree, but it's worth presenting.
Corporal King is an anomaly in the Japanese prison camp; not only is he one of only a handful of Americans amongst the mainly British and Australian inmates, he is actually thriving through his conniving and black market enterprises while others (nearly all of higher rank) struggle to survive the sickness and starvation, while retaining as much of their civilised nature as they can.
In the course of his activities, King recruits upper class British RAF officer, Flight Lieutenant Peter Marlowe (James Fox) to act as a translator. As they become better acquainted, Marlowe comes to like the man and appreciate his cunning. For his part, King respects Marlowe, but his attitude is otherwise ambiguous. When Marlowe accidentally injures his arm, King obtains expensive medicines to save the gangrenous limb from amputation, but it is unclear whether he does so out of genuine friendship or because Marlowe is the only one who knows where the proceeds from King's latest and most profitable venture are hidden.
King has an entirely different relationship with the lower class, seemingly-incorruptible British Provost, Lieutenant Grey (Tom Courtenay). Grey has only contempt for the American and does his best to bring him down, with little success.
Meanwhile, Grey has another dilemma to deal with. When he accidentally discovers that the high-ranking officer in charge of the meager food rations has been siphoning off part of it, he rejects a bribe and zealously takes the matter to Colonel George Smedley-Taylor (John Mills). To his dismay however, Smedley-Taylor tells him that the corrupt officer and his assistant have been relieved of their duties, but orders him to forget all about it. Grey accuses him of being in on the scheme, but the tampered weight he presented to the colonel has been replaced, and he no longer has any proof of the misdeeds. Smedley-Taylor offers to promote him to captain; when a troubled Grey does not respond, Smedley-Taylor takes his silence as agreement.