SANDY HOOK reference in BATMAN movie

reply to post by Unity_99


You need help, it's not normal to be as paranoid as you are. You're living in a fantasy world.

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Yes, 3 yr old Jonathan Ball and 11 yr old Tim Parry...mindlessly killed in a shopping centre after the scum that is the IRA directed the crowds towards the bomb with their disinfo...disgusting pieces of filth who now parade as genuine politicians

I also heard that somewhere in THE MATRIX Neo's passport was shown to expire on 9/11 2001.

Concerning Sandy Hook in Batman Movie: I would imagine that the writer/artists who created the Batman Universe, based Gotham City (and its fictional surrounding region) on New York City, so perhaps its only natural that Gotham city would have fictional suburban towns that reflect the names of towns that would also occur in that region. I don't see much a conspiracy here--just coincidence

Concerning Aurora tower in Batman and Skyfall: Well, the appearance of Aurora tower in the movie just strikes me as two directors/ (or movie studios) picking a convenient spot to shoot their movie locations. Since one director seemed to have a good experience with that place as a decent film shooting location, it makes sense that perhaps another director would also shoot there. Also, the fact that the shooting happened in a town called Aurora, Co just strikes me as an unfortunate coincidence. The fact that Holmes picked the Batman movie to do this, strikes me as being more about his personal obsession with Batman and his particular need to carry out his fantasy as a Joker type killer/ or that Red-haired killer in the comic "The Dark Knight Returns", who also shoots up a movie theater in the graphic novel.


Concerning LIBOR Scandal: Other than blogs and odd sites here and there, I havn't found any real concrete evidence that either Father of Holmes (Robert Holmes?) or Father of Lanza (Pete Lanza?) are actually involved in the case. Any mainstream sources confirming this? (Yes I know, you all don't trust the mainstream---but if there is a secret organization running this show, as some of you suspect, they cant possible be controlling EVERY single reporter looking for a new angle on these shooting cases.) Some ambitious mainstream reporter would find out by now and look into this.

My thoughts, so far. Not trying to be a "disinfo agent" or anything--I can speculate with even the "craziest" speculator, but these just strike me as coincidences. I'm not seeing anything here but psychologically and socially neglected copy-cats who had access to weaponry and were not stopped before it was too late.

-Ghoster

SANDY HOOK on a map of Gotham ?

A Gotham map has to be a prop constructed by the movie artists, because Gotham is ficticious (but modeled on NYC or perhaps Chicago the murder capitol)

if the SANDY HOOK blow-up is from a legit map used on the Batman Movie Set...lets investigate the real map source & then delve into why the location name SANDY HOOK was hidden in-plain-sight, & by whom


i was just musing on the Dark Knight massacre....and the Sandy Hook massacre... and trying to link them in some fashion other than 2 perps that were nutty or on RX meds...

my thinking is that there will be many diversions and misleadings to obscure the real reason for these massacres
i think ONE such link that is too obscure can be found on a resourceful pattern digger/pattern connectors web site:

...The father of the shooter is Peter Lanza, rumored to be scheduled to testify on the international LIBOR scandal
Guess who else is rumored to be scheduled to testify on the LIBOR scandal?

Father of the BATMAN theater shooter. Amazing coincidence? We will see.

The LIBOR scandal is a massive, worldwide network of banks, the Federal Reserve and highly position individuals such as Tim Geihtner and Ben Bernanke that are being accused of manipulating LIBOR rates to gain better market positions.[...]

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sorry I meant west chelsea hill and fort clinton....CHELSEA CLINTON...

Originally posted by derekj032
Not sure if this has been brought up, but in other maps of Gotham City, the island that is called "Sandy Hook" in the Dark Knight movie is named "South Hinkley." This struck me as a strange thing to change for the movie. I mean why rename part of Gotham city after all these years of it being called something else?

They changed the name of areas around the city because the city was shot in Chicago in Batman Begins and The Dark Knight. The Dark Knight Rises' Gotham was shot in Pittsburgh, New York City, and Los Angeles. Christopher and Johnathan Nolan changed the name of these areas because there was more city to work with.

Do you really think the Nolan Brothers, Warner Brother Films, and DC Comics are at the top of a worldwide mind control conspiracy theory?

Originally posted by Tazkven
reply to post by NorEaster

 

The unanswered questions I stated earlier ...

The Mother's car was blue or a dark color parked close to the door, the one cops where all over all day long. That was the vehicle the alleged murder weapon was said to be in before it was the murder weapon ... Was it there or was it with the shooter? That answer to that question depends on whether it was asked before or after the coroner report.

This, from the post directly below yours.

It really does only take seconds to peruse the internet and view various sources of information to get the known facts. Adam Lanza took 4 guns from his mother's collection. Two hand pistols, a Bushmaster assault rifle, and a Saiga shotgun which was found in the car. A reporter would not be allowed near the car as it is part of the crime scene, so we must conclude in all plausibility (remaining within the parameters of the facts) that it was a law enforcement officer whom discovered the shotgun in the car?

I'm good with that explanation.

All I am saying is the official story here and in Aurora just do not seem to add up, are they related, is there more here than meets the eye? I do not know ... What I do know is you honestly believe in what your saying and any point I make makes no difference in what you believe.

You are allowing all kinds of speculation to exist as equal and "unweighted" which is the best way to completely lose your way as you investigate anything. You need to challenge each and every "fact" that you confront, and do so with inference - meaning the nature of how that fact exists in direct context with everything else that's known to be true. Doing this can immediately eliminate a healthy percentage of speculation, making it much easier to then focus on the more plausible bits of information to determine their validity. You need to be a detective, especially when you're buried in information. Finding information, now days, is the easy part. Digging through wrong information to get to good information is the challenge today.

But I will be honest with you, I am really feeling sick and dirty going on and on about the senseless, brutal death of 20 innocent beautiful children. Me and my girlfriend was sitting last night with my 8 month old son looking at the pictures of them and she started crying, it touched me too.

My little granddaughter, Eliza, is 7, and she lives in Indianapolis, which is quite a drive from here. I couldn't just pick up and race to see her, and it's been really tough. Especially when I see the photos of those little babies. She's just like any one of them. I totally understand how you feel.

Is there or is there not a conspiracy here, just like JFK regardless of what we both believe it will forever be debated.

edit on 17-12-2012 by Tazkven because: (no reason given)

I honestly don't believe that there is. I do believe that there was a brutal conspiracy behind the 9/11 Attacks, and I do believe that JFK was murdered, most likely by an LBJ led conspiracy to shut down Bobby Kennedy's quiet Justice Dept investigation into a decades old murder that Johnson had a definite hand in. Like the 9/11 Attacks, there was a seriously high-stakes motivation behind LBJ's need for Kennedy's death that transcended simple ambition or even the Vietnam conflict. If you look into that Johnson angle, you'll find plenty to sink your teeth into.

This thing sucks to hell, but it's the kind of suckage that doesn't allow you any level of ultimate satisfaction with the arrest and prosecution of a responsible party. This is the worst kind of hellishness. I wish it wasn't as terrible as it is.

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Even if the killers fathers were in some way involved in the Libor scandal, I fail to see how it can be connected as part of a coverup of anything.

If true, they have to face a committee of some sort, and whether their sons killed dozens of people would not change that fact, so I just don't understand why it would make a difference. It's not like they can be found guilty of anything on the basis that their sons are maniacal killers, nor could they be let off, so there's just no motive for the conspiracy IMO

Originally posted by Mully

Originally posted by derekj032
Not sure if this has been brought up, but in other maps of Gotham City, the island that is called "Sandy Hook" in the Dark Knight movie is named "South Hinkley." This struck me as a strange thing to change for the movie. I mean why rename part of Gotham city after all these years of it being called something else?

They changed the name of areas around the city because the city was shot in Chicago in Batman Begins and The Dark Knight. The Dark Knight Rises' Gotham was shot in Pittsburgh, New York City, and Los Angeles. Christopher and Johnathan Nolan changed the name of these areas because there was more city to work with.

Do you really think the Nolan Brothers, Warner Brother Films, and DC Comics are at the top of a worldwide mind control conspiracy theory?

According to this site the creators of the matrix, Simpsons, Dark Knight Trilogy, The lone gunmen and Skyfall are all NWO conspirators trying to take your freedom. There's a reason why people mock this site.

reply to post by Loki420th

sounds like you have done your research - throw me in w/ the - they hide in plain site - crowd.
it would be nice if the producer and/or the director would comment.
is D.C. or just hollywood involved and if they knew before hand how would they know this Lanza kid would carry out his worst nightmare?
did he have a shrink ala holmes.
what psycho-tropics was he taking and was he in therapy or hypno therapy?
he did not seemingly have a connection to the school.

sympathies and prayers to Sandy Hook - God bless - America mourns with you.

Originally posted by jibajaba

he did not seemingly have a connection to the school.

He lived nearby. It was full of little children, and their deaths would hurt that town to its core. That's pretty much a "connection" for someone trying to lash out at everyone around him. Hell, he shot his mom's face apart. This was extreme rage directed at "local authority" as far as I can see. Kill the thing most precious to those you are really targeting, and you win. It's not hard to see the reason for the choosing that target. This kid wanted to hurt everyone, and he succeeded.

Do you really think the Nolan Brothers, Warner Brother Films, and DC Comics are at the top of a worldwide mind control conspiracy theory?

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No. but other operatives in the industry who are connected to your stated (mind control conspiracy), used the movie as a hidden-in-plain-sight method to proclaim their intentions beforehand...
as the supposed illuminati are thought to do all the time.

it will take digging, it may be a very twisted path to find out why the island location name was changed to SANDY HOOK in the batman movie linked to a massacre #1 (followed by a Sandy Hook site of a massacre #2)

Guys, Gordon in movie form triangle with his fingers too.

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I have noticed, second largest employer in Newtown is the Freemason funded/administered Masonicare at Newtown.

newtown.patch.com...

Their website front page features Illuminati symbols front and center.

www.masonicare.org... Things are adding up for me !

Source : UFO-Blogger.com

some how the same name shows up under this school as a teacher we know they all ready lie about them probably nothing could be something www.jcps.k12.mo.us...

Didn't this take place on the day of another big movie opening?
Lord of the Rings

Originally posted by destination now
reply to post by southbeach

 

Yes, 3 yr old Jonathan Ball and 11 yr old Tim Parry...mindlessly killed in a shopping centre after the scum that is the IRA directed the crowds towards the bomb with their disinfo...disgusting pieces of filth who now parade as genuine politicians

Perhaps best to steer clear of topics you know little or nothing about.

Originally posted by Unity_99
reply to post by yourmaker

 

I keep having these visions of kids in a huge park like setting, and he's with them, its like white room, been flashing on this all morning, and then I saw his picture, and he looked like my youngest son a bit, and realized he had been murdered, his mother murdered, and a whole kindergarden class murdered, with an innocent set up.

And here we have the PROOF.

edit on 16-12-2012 by Unity_99 because: (no reason given)

Seriously, that's what you call proof? He was a MURDERER.. he was not murdered. Yours sick to put a child killer into the roll of victim, IMO.

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On the bright side, the government now has the IP address, names, and physical addresses of all the wierdo's here.

Originally posted by NorEaster
This thing sucks to hell, but it's the kind of suckage that doesn't allow you any level of ultimate satisfaction with the arrest and prosecution of a responsible party. This is the worst kind of hellishness. I wish it wasn't as terrible as it is.

Before I heard the changing stories, the connections to the killers parents to bankers, everyone connected being dead, A second perpetrator, the parallels to the Aurora case which I know we both do not agree on, which made me think, and honestly I still do think, of the possibilities of conspiracies, Rebecca and I was discussing this as well ...

The serious screw up of mental healthcare in both cases, it is either people are over medicated or fall through the cracks of the system and are not medicated, misdiagnosed or put on the wrong medication. In the end officially that is where the blame will land, Mental illness and how it is treated.

And your right bro, It is beyond hellish, 11 days before Christmas, 6 and 7 year olds, parents lost children, children lost parents, brothers lost sisters, sisters, brothers, spouses and best friends. We both can agree that we hope nothing like this ever happens again.

The cynical part of me though believes someone is out there for whatever reason, just waiting to "one up" this ...