Evidence THEY Program The Killers (Or Remote-Control Them).

Yes, they do, in Russia such as method was developed by KGB scientist Vinogradov.

Originally posted by coyotepoet
reply to post by winofiend

 

As opposed to being weak minded and easily influenced people. Got it, lots of work there. How hard it must be to live in your world. Glad I know people are just sick.. a load of stress off my mind.

Mmmm...no. I have been a therapist for close to 15 years. I have spent a chunk of that time working at a state hospital where people that have gone crazy and killed people go (mostly family members, some coworkers, no random strangers.) How many of those made non-stop national news? None that I have worked with. I think that I have a good deal more insight on this issue than the average person, and I think the OP is right on. Do people go crazy and kill other people without being MK'd? Absolutely. However there are earmarks of a person that has done so under MK and the earmarks are all here (and in Aurora, and in Wisconsin, and in Columbine, etc) in the situation as the OP was laying out.

edit on 15-12-2012 by coyotepoet because: (no reason given)

I feel like I've had this very conversation 4 times in the last 3 days with close friends, and - much to my surprise - they were not all that surprised with the suggestion.

We live in interesting times, my friends.

Originally posted by coyotepoet
reply to post by theghoster

 

I'm curious, can you elaborate what these commonalities are you find int he recent shooters?

The numerological aspects for one, these fingerprints are present in these mass shootings and are a good distinguisher of a MK'd occult ritual from your run of the mill crazy shooting. That's one comparison-these number sets 7, 9, 3, 11, 13, etc show up all over these kind of things and are nowhere to be found in the actual "crazy killers" with whom I work.

Let's take this one- full of 7's and 9's

28 people total (adds to 10-signifies completion)

Reports stated that 27 were dead, 18 were children. Both instances of 9 (2+7, 8+1) plus 27-18 also leaves you with 9

Later reports stated that 20 children were dead, 18 died on the spot, 2 later.

The shooting suspect had a Glock 9mm handgun, and a Sig-Sauer 9mm handgun and a Bushmaster .223-caliber assault rifle.

There's 2 more 9's and a 7 (2+2+3=7)

These kinds of things are coded to the teeth and you just don't see that in actual, non-Mk'd people that are actually in the mental hospital for killing people.

edit on 15-12-2012 by coyotepoet because: (no reason given)

And, then... you had to bring up numerology... *sigh*

dammit.

I know this is ATS, but... wow.

reply to post by lpowell0627


Well, his father is the tax-man for GE, scheduled to testify on the LIBOR scandal next week.

You're just a disinfo agitater trying to make amends for our gov't's wanton killing of civilians, and now : CHILDREN>

reply to post by theghoster


It's not GE, it's the gov't who is managing and threatening all the people who are doing and stealing all the taxpayer's money.

reply to post by NJoyZ


I know that sometimes it's hard to understand the world and the evil people who live in it. It can be easier to convince ourselves that people aren't inherently evil, they're being controlled by "dark" or "otherworldly" forces.

But I think at some point we have to stop kidding ourselves and see the world for what it really is. A beautifully disturbing cornucopia of beautiful and disturbed individuals.

There isn't always an explanation for why people do evil things. Sometimes...they're just evil.

Originally posted by Happy1
reply to post by lpowell0627

 

Well, his father is the tax-man for GE, scheduled to testify on the LIBOR scandal next week.

Do you have any evidence? Any sources, be it court documents, or even news articles?

If not, please stop spreading the lies, I'm really sad that there are so many disinfo people trying to distract from the story, like that 4chan post, and this libor scandal thing.

reply to post by NJoyZ


That's it - blame others. How can people be so sick and F'd up? - lets blame the 'secret overseers.'

The most recent guy - the ones killing those kids - was no programmed killer.

The Recent killer was a socially disturbed, mother reliant, freeloader delinquent whose world was disrupted because he wasn't taught the skills to be a person.

You guys really think he killed his mother, then attacked the school system out of spite? His mother probably killed herself and left a suicide note (or told the killer of her intentions beforehand). With his prepubescent rage mentality, he grabbed all the gear he needed to make those 'who took away' his mother to feel the same way.

His main focus was the area where his mother USED to teach. Why was his mother at home on a Friday? Because she lost her job I think. Week after week went by - the mother wasn't able to keep up with the bills. The mother took her own life because she couldn't cope. The killer - being of childish mind - took out his anger on those who took his mother away. He wanted them to feel the same way he did.

No programming there - just another POS born in the 90's kid that can't handle stress of life. Hope the next Gen is better equipped.

No way am I condoning the actions of the F-tard who shot those kids up. He should have took it out on the administrative section of those who allowed his mother to be let loose.

Again - this is just my opinion of what happened.

-CN

Just wanted to throw something in the mix that seemed to vanish as quickly as it happened. I posted this thread Nathan Van Wilkins - Batman Massacre Beta Test, Failed 1st Attempt or Crazed Maniac? on July 26th right after the Aurora Co. Incident. I feel this event was a precursor or failed attempt possibly. The lack of coverage since seems strange as well.

A man in Tuscaloosa, AL shot 17 people at a sports bar with a semi-auto weapon a week prior to the Batman Massacre . He was not on drugs but had gone off his meds they said. He turned himself in the next day so might not have been him at all. There is video in the thread of him shooting. Some strange connections with him as well. Before the shooting he went to the offices of an Oil company he worked for and set things on fire.

This event to me was brushed under the rug and given no attention after Co. I think this event did not have the desired response that whoever is running it wanted since there were no fatalities. That or they were testing the op in preparation for the BM since I have heard/read of a lot of occult connections with the BM slaying.

I went to a High school in GA that had a mass shooting one month after Columbine. There was some media coverage at first but it died out because even though many victims there were no fatalities. Given the post columbine attitude at the time you would think they would have been all over it. Then again that could just be a statement about the media and less about brainwashed operatives.

reply to post by NJoyZ


Actually this conspiracy is not as much of a crackpot one as some would think. The CIA MK-Ultra program dealt with mind control, including possible assassinations. Here is an interesting article on the subject, which deals with a former CIA money launderer who was shot and killed by a homeless person who had a history of involvement with MK-Ultra psychiatric affiliates:

James Bond and the killer bag lady

That said, I am not convinced that all, many, most or any of these shootings in malls, schools, churches, offices, etc. are the work of the CIA or other such nefarious government organizations. The proliferation of guns and psychotropic medications, along with our dysfunctional and violence-laden culture seem to be all the necessary ingredients for such ültra-violence to flourish. BUT, the conspiracy theory in this case is not nearly as far-fetched as one would assume it to be. I put it within the realm of possibility -- and that's a lot more than I can say about most conspiracies put forth here at ATS. Hence I don't rule it out -- for whatever that's worth.

After much speculation on the motives and theories of recent shootings, I would like to share with you guys something I found quite interesting....

First, please read the Wiki about psychological warfare here, if you are unfamiliar with the tactics...

en.wikipedia.org...

*Note the "Modern Psycological Warfare Operations" & "United States" sections

Next, lets just see where some of these units are based. Scroll down in the wiki link to the section where it shows where the psyop units are based out of.

en.wikipedia.org...

*Note 2 of the 41 listed are in Aurora, Co, 1 is in Withycombe, OR (basically Portland), and 1 is in Fort Totten, NY (about 70 miles from Newtown, CT)

Just wanted to add that also with recent events it seems the mall shooting was again a low body count/victim count scenario and we see immediately afterwards a larger more shocking event following. Almost like they are throwing out feelers or trial balloons to get the whole antigun sentiment rolling in time for the big collapse.

Originally posted by ChuckNasty
reply to post by NJoyZ

 

That's it - blame others. How can people be so sick and F'd up? - lets blame the 'secret overseers.'

The most recent guy - the ones killing those kids - was no programmed killer.

The Recent killer was a socially disturbed, mother reliant, freeloader delinquent whose world was disrupted because he wasn't taught the skills to be a person.

You guys really think he killed his mother, then attacked the school system out of spite? His mother probably killed herself and left a suicide note (or told the killer of her intentions beforehand). With his prepubescent rage mentality, he grabbed all the gear he needed to make those 'who took away' his mother to feel the same way.

His main focus was the area where his mother USED to teach. Why was his mother at home on a Friday? Because she lost her job I think. Week after week went by - the mother wasn't able to keep up with the bills. The mother took her own life because she couldn't cope. The killer - being of childish mind - took out his anger on those who took his mother away. He wanted them to feel the same way he did.

No programming there - just another POS born in the 90's kid that can't handle stress of life. Hope the next Gen is better equipped.

No way am I condoning the actions of the F-tard who shot those kids up. He should have took it out on the administrative section of those who allowed his mother to be let loose.

Again - this is just my opinion of what happened.

-CN

edit on 16-12-2012 by ChuckNasty because: added the s to other on the fist line there...yeah.

See to me this statement would be an indication that these PsyOps work. The use of young or innocent victims causes most people to bypass critical thinking and instead preys on their emotions. I dont think considering these to be politically motivated attacks is making excuses for the shooter. Instead the excuses are always "he was a loner, he was a loser, he was into dangerous things, part of a bad generation, mentally ill." etc. Not picking on you or your statement ChuckNasty just using it to illustrate my point.

And again, the numbers are there, coded again like I expected they would be.

Charlotte Bacon, 6

Daniel Barden, 7

Rachel Davino, 29

Olivia Engel, 6

Josephine Gay, 7

Ana Marquez-Greene, 6

Dylan Hockley, 6

Dawn Hocksprung, 47

Madeline Hsu, 6

Catherine Hubbard, 6

Chase Kowalski, 7

Jesse Lewis, 6

James Mattioli, 6

Grace McDonnell, 7

Anne Marie Murphy, 52

Emilie Parker, 6

Jack Pinto, 6

Noah Pozner, 6

Caroline Previdi, 6


Jessica Rekos, 6

Avielle Richman, 6

Lauren Rousseau, 30

Mary Sherlach, 56

Victoria Soto, 27

Benjamin Wheeler, 6

Allison Wyatt, 6


More 7's, 9's, 11's, and 13's


16 6 year olds (1+6=7) +6=13
4 7 year olds 7+4=11

and the adults

Rachel Davino, 29 2+9=11
Dawn Hocksprung, 47 4+7=11
Anne Marie Murphy, 52 5+2=7
Lauren Rousseau, 30
Mary Sherlach, 56 5+6=11
Victoria Soto, 27 7+2=9


Whether you believe in numerology or not, and regardless of arguments as to how it is controlled for ages (answer-I don't know, but the numbers are always there) The age distribution and the repetitive numbers can't be argued.

Some says they program jacky to kill JFK
jackiekilledjfk.wordpress.com...

reply to post by coyotepoet


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Wow. Jaw dropping insight I haven't seen anywhere else. Have you ever used this pattern to predict an occurance? Does place have any relevance? Such as , oh I don't know, co ordinates, or the numeric date when a Territory became a State? The reason I ask, is because alot of energy has been put into the date 12-21-2012 and it adds up to 11.

I would like to point out that ---It does not have to be the government.
Assume this technology,or ability exists. A group know how to run a MK
sleeper cell,or 20. Given enough time and money there is a huge ability to abuse
and even manipulate events and people at very high levels.

The goal for such an operation need not be the same goals as the government.
As the social,political,and economic circles of the control group expand,what is to limit
them from becoming a global power running an agenda for themselves. What would be the
limits of that power.Is there anyone they could not touch or affect?

To assume that if such a thing exists and its run by the gov is not accurate.It could have started
with gov research,grants,R and D,and very quickly be usurped.How do you manage oversight on
something that a)is top secret so does not exist and b) is so out of the norm that no one would believe
a whistleblower and c) can manipulate the overseer
Absolute power corrupts.

reply to post by coyotepoet


I'm sorry, I am not attacking you either, but I am confused now. When you first started talking about the numerology thing, I thought you were saying it was something that the ptb had implanted into the killers' minds (making them do things on certain dates, etc., because they were believing in the magic power of the numbers). But now, when you talk about the ages of victims in mass killings matching the numerology, such as a 3-month old in the theater, well, now it sounds like you believe in the magic of the numbers. Am I understanding right? I mean, how could a mass killer possibly know the ages of the victims in a mass killing, and pick out the right ones to shoot? I don't understand.

Originally posted by hawkiye
Jesse Ventura did a Conspiracy theory on them projecting voices into your head...

www.youtube.com...

Has to be the biggest pile of horse crap seen lately. This is where a lot of that garbage about HAARP comes from, disinformation by hype media. They make a big stink about not being allowed in to the facility. I would not want these idiots any where near where I worked.... but the gullible are going to believe that HAARP is a weapon, no matter who else tells them differently, and now a mind control device. HAARP does have another role, it is a baby sitter for feeble minds., even when it is powered off.