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Originally posted by NickDC202
I'm really trying to understand why Nancy Lanza is being crucified by the media .....

Because Peter Lanza is still alive to slap them with a libel suit.

Originally posted by DelMarvel

Originally posted by Tecumte
It's a shame the contents of that hard drive will never be know, .

And you know that how? The last interview I heard with Paul Vance he said they already had a lot of electronic evidence and that there was still a chance of getting information from the hard drive.

I *don't* know as none of us do, as no news source can be trusted apparently to get things right but I should have said--- according to the Telegraph--- (I posted a link a bit earlier).

I fully suspect the hard drive will be magically ressurected, (what a usefull TOOL, think of the political possibilites to drive the herd) but still I doubt any of the original contents Adam may have REALLY wanted known will ever be known.

Originally posted by starviego

Originally posted by NickDC202
I'm really trying to understand why Nancy Lanza is being crucified by the media .....

Because Peter Lanza is still alive to slap them with a libel suit.

Because she stands for a stereotype that the media wants to crucify. Nothing personal. And she apparently isn't in a position to refute the smears.

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This is very interesting....the only reason I can imagine he wore the bullet proof vest is in case anyone tried to shoot him before he could carry out his deed? But its still interesting.

Originally posted by nowayreally
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This is very interesting....the only reason I can imagine he wore the bullet proof vest is in case anyone tried to shoot him before he could carry out his deed? But its still interesting.

Maybe it was a prop.

Props can be quite usefull in shaping the story line.

Yes, anything is possible.
The problem is that a week after the shooting and there is still no motive.
I'm sorry but 'his Mom was going to institutionalize him' and/or 'she did volunteer at the school' is simply not enough!!!
I just have a hard time believing this.And even if the above is/was true I still cant see that being a trigger for someone to commit such hidously awful acts.

Originally posted by Tecumte

I *don't* know as none of us do, as no news source can be trusted apparently to get things right but I should have said--- according to the Telegraph--- (I posted a link a bit earlier).

No mainstream news source can be trusted except when citing one to support a conspiracy theory. Standard operation procedure.

Originally posted by nowayreally
Yes, anything is possible.
The problem is that a week after the shooting and there is still no motive.
I'm sorry but 'his Mom was going to institutionalize him' and/or 'she did volunteer at the school' is simply not enough!!!
I just have a hard time believing this.And even if the above is/was true I still cant see that being a trigger for someone to commit such hidously awful acts.

It was incredible to see the trial balloon-- 'mom wanted to institutionalize ' him (by an unamed source)-- lame attempt at a 'motive', all the while seeing they shot together, the moms apparent trust of him and guns and the quote of being his biggest cheerleader(supporter) and his desire to have a military carreer. Going out on a limb here but I'll mention what has likely occurred to a few, perhaps the hard drive was destroyed to keep anyone from reading exchanges between a 'military recruiter' and Adam. Maybe that 'recruiter' payed Adam and his mom a visit.

Originally posted by DelMarvel

Originally posted by Tecumte

I *don't* know as none of us do, as no news source can be trusted apparently to get things right but I should have said--- according to the Telegraph--- (I posted a link a bit earlier).

No mainstream news source can be trusted except when citing one to support a conspiracy theory. Standard operation procedure.

Probably no source can be trusted 100%, I would say the main criteria though would be that things have to make sense at least in some reasonable fashion and that the majority of time IMO the more someone has reason to obfuscate or downright lie the more we might expect this. That's why IMo it's way to early to try and claim anyone knows exactly how this went down, so far the jumbled story as it's hobled together is IMO unbelievable, and ranks lower on the order of probability than other scenarios, but to each their own, maybe some folks prefer to simply plug into the idot box and download whatever explantion the latest talking head from the Misinistry of Propaganda is spewing out, no thanks, I'll keep looking.

Originally posted by Tecumte

Originally posted by DelMarvel

Originally posted by Tecumte

I *don't* know as none of us do, as no news source can be trusted apparently to get things right but I should have said--- according to the Telegraph--- (I posted a link a bit earlier).

No mainstream news source can be trusted except when citing one to support a conspiracy theory. Standard operation procedure.

Probably no source can be trusted 100%, I would say the main criteria though would be that things have to make sense at least in some reasonable fashion and that the majority of time IMO the more someone has reason to obfuscate or downright lie the more we might expect this. That's why IMo it's way to early to try and claim anyone knows exactly how this went down, so far the jumbled story as it's hobled together is IMO unbelievable, and ranks lower on the order of probability than other scenarios, but to each their own, maybe some folks prefer to simply plug into the idot box and download whatever explantion the latest talking head from the Misinistry of Propaganda is spewing out, no thanks, I'll keep looking.

Yes it is way too early to even start to gain a whole picture of what actually happened. The media will spin it as they always do. Fox News will spin it with right wing views, and MSNBC will spin it with left wing views. They are like two sides of the same rusted coin.

But what are the real facts? And how will the public shift them out? It will be interesting to see what the "official story" ends up being, and then compare that to what the witnesses and evidence actually show. I hope the first responders are keeping private records of what they saw and did, so that the truth can be found out.

Thanks for reading my post.

I just want to add a little more on the smashed harddrive.
If I wanted to be devious and destroy my harddrive, I would take a 2nd Harddrive, smash it up and put it in my pc..
Then take my actual Harddrive and BURY IT/throw it in the sea.
By the time the FBI or who ever had got y smashed harddrive and spent time trying to get the info off it, it would be either empty or useless.

Just a thought I had to throw people of scent should the need arise.

Originally posted by starviego

Originally posted by NickDC202
I'm really trying to understand why Nancy Lanza is being crucified by the media .....

Because Peter Lanza is still alive to slap them with a libel suit.

That is a good point starviego; I'm sure that Peter Lanza being a Vice President at GE Energy Financial Services and GE owning 49% of both NBC & MSNBC allows that "news" division to give Peter Lanza a pass.

Interesting enough, isn't it interesting that this is one of the few mass shootings that the media isn't giving the accused shooter's middle name? Guess what, the accused shooter's full name: Adam Peter Lanza. If they were using his middle name, Peter, in coverage it might remind us that he has a father too...

Originally posted by Tecumte

Originally posted by starviego

Originally posted by NickDC202
I'm really trying to understand why Nancy Lanza is being crucified by the media .....

Because Peter Lanza is still alive to slap them with a libel suit.

Because she stands for a stereotype that the media wants to crucify. Nothing personal. And she apparently isn't in a position to refute the smears.

edit on 20-12-2012 by Tecumte because: sp.

Tecumte, that made me laugh in a gallows humor type of way...

Is it just me or are we witnessing the worst exercise of modern "journalism" with the coverage of Adam & Nancy Lanza's background? It just seems the media is throwing spaghetti against the wall and seeing what sticks...

It's similar to the Aurora case in that we had one statement from James' parents, one statement from Adam's. Never to be heard from again. Eerie silence from the media.

The biggest red flag to me is that MSM does not ask questions. You can't tell me that MSM didn't hear the police audio, the dialogue about more than one shooter, the comment about a teacher seeing two shadows running by her window. More than one shooter in police audio, just like in Aurora. And MSM doesn't touch it with a ten foot pole. MSM avoids all kinds of things that are screaming out to them, and the general public is none the wiser. You think MSM is playing the police audio in their newscasts? Of course not. Showing the video of the father talking about the guy handcuffed and put into the front of the police car? Of course not.

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CinnamonHearts there is video of WCBS TV reporter Lou Young describing the man in camo pants and a black jacket being pulled from the woods in handcuffs and looking the parents in the eyes and saying "I didn't do this". Young's live report aired during CBS national's live coverage of the shooting with Nora O'Donnell as the anchor.

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My point is MSM does not plaster it all over the place repeatedly. Was that clip on every major newscast the night of the shootings? I doubt it. Has MSM questioned the contents of it at all? Have they gone back and asked what was up with that?! No. That was the point I was attempting to make.


Does it make sense that a parent of a child in that school would be running AWAY from the school without their child? He thinks something horrible is going down and runs for his life without his kid. And to say "I didn't do it" is absolutely ridiculous to me. What did he know? Who would say something like that? And parents were already there when he came out of the woods? Makes no sense to me.

Originally posted by CinnamonHearts
It's similar to the Aurora case in that we had one statement from James' parents, one statement from Adam's. Never to be heard from again. Eerie silence from the media.

The biggest red flag to me is that MSM does not ask questions. You can't tell me that MSM didn't hear the police audio, the dialogue about more than one shooter, the comment about a teacher seeing two shadows running by her window. More than one shooter in police audio, just like in Aurora. And MSM doesn't touch it with a ten foot pole. MSM avoids all kinds of things that are screaming out to them, and the general public is none the wiser. You think MSM is playing the police audio in their newscasts? Of course not. Showing the video of the father talking about the guy handcuffed and put into the front of the police car? Of course not.

One would have to guess that the Feds (or other special interests) are on the scene pronto, locking down the press and any info that isn't going to be used for the 'offical story'. My guess is that in these situtations there is an extreme gag order with severe penaties for anyone attempting to stray from it maybe even formal confidentiality agreements for those up the food chain.

This case also reminds me of Virginia Tech, where "Cho" allegedly first killed two (if I recall right) then drove? across town (the campus?) to a school building where he (allegedly) did the same thing. But he had the insight to go mail a special promo package to the press (naturally), so that everyone could see a huge gun in the video sticking into their living room T.V. sets, pure psyops?, who writes these things?, The question is just how much is embellished versus just how much is actually aided or abetted, or maybe even actually carried out start to finish, that's the harder part to know. Too I think you are right, info is INTENTIONALLY given out to muddy the waters at the start and cause confusion initially so nobody knows what is going on and then after enough trial balloons have been tried the 'details' are made to fit the pre chosen story line.

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I have to say, in all my years watching "events" like this unfold, I've never heard this much misinformation getting out there so quickly. It was truly odd.

Also, funny how the feds can so quickly shut everyone up, yet the LE on the scene couldn't even manage to block off the road to the school. They're organized enough to get everyone to shut up and not give out too much info, but not organized enough to block the road from incoming traffic to allow emergency vehicles to get through.

What about the child witnesses who saw their teacher get shot...they were allowed to say with some stranger for several hours in his home. These were allegedly, eye witnesses.

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CinnamonHearts I completely agree with everything you wrote. You couldn't be more accurate with the points you raise.

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My guess is that in these situtations there is an extreme gag order with severe penaties for anyone attempting to stray from it maybe even formal confidentiality agreements for those up the food chain.

no need to guess ... that's about as close as it gets.

just see the new Facebook penalties for questioning the official story ... how ridiculous is that ?
i don't do FB, but imagine you read story A and i read story B, then on FB, we discuss the details, which happen to conflict with each other (much like we do here) ... technically, we'd both get punished ... what is THAT about ?

neither are the 'official' story but at the same time, they both represent the 'official' storyline, so to speak. and just what does that leave 'ppl' to discuss ... nothing newsworthy