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Originally posted by resoe26
ever notice, most commercials that feature families in them, the woman/wife tends to dumb down the father/husband....
Recent generations of men have been plagued with this. Women subcontiously see these things everday on television, and they begin to feature it in thier own lives.
I believe this is one of the main culprits of failed marriages. The main culprit of many children being raised without father figures.
Women seem to want to be the head of the household now in days rather than letting the man be the bread winner.
Originally posted by TheKeyMaster
It's possible that there was some message from ancient times about the masculine and feminine and the people decoding the message got it wrong and chose to suppress women instead of understanding the real point.
I read something about the real meaning of the masculine and the feminine somewhere but can't remember where it was....
The real feminine aspect had something to do with thinking long term... knowledge.. something like that.
Originally posted by Merriman Weir
Originally posted by spangledbanner
I am sure that something happened that made societies decide to give women a real glass ceiling. I am pretty sure they destroyed an advanced ancient civilization. Or were ancient aliens all misogynist's?
edit on 14-12-2012 by spangledbanner because: (no reason given)
All you're doing is acknowledging that, historically, women have had the short end of the stick in society and then saying, 'there's no smoke without fire', so they must have done something to deserve this.
It's not much of an argument, to be honest. But then again, the 'they were asking for it' defence is thrown around a lot when it comes to the way women have been treated in society throughout history.
Rich, middle-aged white men seem to be intent on destroying Western civilisation at the moment. If we have a world left at the end of it, I suggest keeping any remaining rich, middle-aged white men in cages to stop them doing it again.
Originally posted by TheKeyMaster
It's possible that there was some message from ancient times about the masculine and feminine and the people decoding the message got it wrong and chose to suppress women instead of understanding the real point.
I read something about the real meaning of the masculine and the feminine somewhere but can't remember where it was....
The real feminine aspect had something to do with thinking long term... knowledge.. something like that.
But you Communists would introduce community of women, screams the bourgeoisie in chorus. The bourgeois sees his wife a mere instrument of production. He hears that the instruments of production are to be exploited in common, and, naturally, can come to no other conclusion that the lot of being common to all will likewise fall to the women. He has not even a suspicion that the real point aimed at is to do away with the status of women as mere instruments of production. For the rest, nothing is more ridiculous than the virtuous indignation of our bourgeois at the community of women which, they pretend, is to be openly and officially established by the Communists. The Communists have no need to introduce community of women; it has existed almost from time immemorial. Our bourgeois, not content with having wives and daughters of their proletarians at their disposal, not to speak of common prostitutes, take the greatest pleasure in seducing each other’s wives. Bourgeois marriage is, in reality, a system of wives in common and thus, at the most, what the Communists might possibly be reproached with is that they desire to introduce, in substitution for a hypocritically concealed, an openly legalised community of women. For the rest, it is self-evident that the abolition of the present system of production must bring with it the abolition of the community of women springing from that system, i.e., of prostitution both public and private.
Originally posted by theMediator
Men lose IQ points when around attractive women.
Originally posted by Hopeforeveryone
reply to post by resoe26
Oh how i laughed - A book by a reverend about predatory women. Bit like a wolf writing a book about predatory sheep. Where I'm from only the other day three christian ministers/priests were arrested for child abuse. Over the last ten years there's been thousands. Just google priests and child abuse and reel in horror at the number of cases.
Also just think back to times when the church was a major social entity and had the power to withold news stories or before the press existed. I'd bet in the history of the church ( all denominations ) the number must be in the millions.edit on 14-12-2012 by Hopeforeveryone because: (no reason given)
Men lose IQ points when around attractive women.
Rich, middle-aged white men seem to be intent on destroying Western civilisation at the moment. If we have a world left at the end of it, I suggest keeping any remaining rich, middle-aged white men in cages to stop them doing it again.
Originally posted by Merriman Weir
Rich, middle-aged white men seem to be intent on destroying Western civilisation at the moment. If we have a world left at the end of it, I suggest keeping any remaining rich, middle-aged white men in cages to stop them doing it again.
Originally posted by spangledbanner
I am sure that something happened that made societies decide to give women a real glass ceiling. I am pretty sure they destroyed an advanced ancient civilization. Or were ancient aliens all misogynist's?
Originally posted by Hopeforeveryone
reply to post by resoe26
Well i gave it a quick google, wouldn't waste my time reading it to be honest. Seems to be mainly about how women have all the cards in the divorce courts, which doesn't seem to me to be entirely true. Way i see it if you end up with a predatory unpleasant wife, you deserved her. Maybe should have checked out her personality a bit more before getting hitched.edit on 14-12-2012 by Hopeforeveryone because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by Douriff
Originally posted by spangledbanner
I am sure that something happened that made societies decide to give women a real glass ceiling. I am pretty sure they destroyed an advanced ancient civilization. Or were ancient aliens all misogynist's?
great topic
I was thinking a lot about.
To me - the most simple explanation is - the land!
Ownership of the land equals ownership and control of women. To get and to keep the land one needs strong and reliable tribe. What's better than make your own army, your own workers, loyal and dependant?? Inheritance is promissed and the power of the group. Blod is the bond, and the woman - you have to be 100% sure that there si no chance for intruders into her womb.
I dont think its about aliens or religions - powerful clans, tribes and families survived many centuries while paying a lot of attention to proper reproduction. (plus bringig and maintaining laws and regulations that wil support their ownership rights)
There are many examples in the history big and small. The bigest tribal atavism survived are - royal houses.
From my experience and observation, whenever something is achieved, that one family values much - elder members will try to control with whom their children match. (even in the most liberal environments - even more so because they value liberal views - of course)edit on 14-12-2012 by Douriff because: (no reason given)