CERN Largest Test Ever - December 17th - December 21st

Detectors and Experimental Techniques Abstract The Large Hadron Collider at CERN has begun operations at 7 TeV center of mass energy. CERN plans to run at this energy until the end of 2012 with the goal of providing an integrated luminosity of a few fb −1 to the CMS and ATLAS experiments.The LHC will then shut down for 1.5 to 2 years to make the revisions necessary to run at sim14 TeV. Operation resumes in 2014. In 2017/18, there will be another long shutdown to prepare the LHC to operate at and eventually above the design luminosity of 10ext34percms. Operation will then resume with the luminosity rising gradually during this period to 2imes 10ext34percms. The two long shutdowns provide CMS an opportunity to carry out improvements to make the experiment more efficient, to repair problems that have been uncovered during early operations, and to upgrade the detector to cope with the ultimate luminosity that will be achieved during this period. The detector work involves the hadron calorimeters, the muon detectors, the pixel detector, the beam radiation monitoring and luminosity measurement system, the trigger, the data acquistion system, and the CMS infrastructure and facilities. The purpose of this report is to explain the need for these improvements, repairs and upgrades and the plans for carrying them out and installing them in the two long shutdowns forseen in 2013/14 and 2017/18.

cdsweb.cern.ch...

I'm pretty sure cern has been operational throughout 2012 so far. The damage has already been done. Everything changed when first started.
When they close for 2013 they will double their energy usage. It will be a level that will not easily be surpassed.

I'm sure we can all find the significance of the two shut down dates mentioned for "upgrades"

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this video i saw the other day here on ats seems relevent to your thread, its a pretty interesting view on the whole thing, here ya go.

Originally posted by Destinyone
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Either someone with a completely misplaced sense of humor...or, complete idiots are planning these test dates.

Des



Here, here. Didn't read too much through the thread before I got this, and I totally agree.
Also, could those sinkholes opening up be the "ripping" in the membrane achieved by CERN???
Shouldn't we have figured out first how to make a whole new thing before we ripped THIS thing to pieces?

edit on 8-12-2012 by Destinyone because: (no reason given)

I didn't read any of the posts on this thread except the OP....

However... I cannot find any evidence whatsoever that cern is going to be using the collider for anything at all during the month of december. From what I can tell they are actually shutting it down for a while.

Originally posted by xxshadowfaxx
I didn't read any of the posts on this thread except the OP....

However... I cannot find any evidence whatsoever that cern is going to be using the collider for anything at all during the month of december. From what I can tell they are actually shutting it down for a while.

edit on 9-12-2012 by xxshadowfaxx because: (no reason given)

Read further on the first page of this thread. Always why anytime I hear or read something sketchy I search it up to see if there's more info or just some silly writer trying to pull on some heartstrings

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something sketchy I search it up

I search it up. Just saw this. Wow, that's great. That should be whole new slang, just like groovy.....search it up, I love it.

I'm sure we will OK, though one can't help but wonder how this latest test " the biggest " one ever, will be spun by those who wish for it to mean other then a scientific test.

Round and round she goes...




SS

Repost from another Cern thread...

From 'It's Not Rocket Science' By Ben Miller (one half of the Armstrong and Miller sketch show) -

The LHC can accelerate a proton up to energies equivalent to around ten thousand times its rest mass: the fastest-moving cosmic rays have energies of about ten thousand million proton rest masses...

They bombard the earth from every concievable angle and with a vast range of energies...

The highest-energy ones are assumed to be coming from outside the galaxy, and there is no known process that can create them. It is as if, somewehere out there in the furthest reaches of the universe, there was the most colossal particle acclerator in Creation...

On their arrival in the upper atmosphere, cosmic rays collide with the molecules of the air, producing showers of new particles in exactly the same way as proton-proton collisions do in the LHC. If you like, you can think of the Earth as being one huge collision experiment that has been running for roughly 4.6 billion years. The very first discoveries in particle physics were made not in man-made accelerators, but in so-called 'cloud chambers' at the tops of mountains where the product off cosmic ray collisions were plentiful.
So when some wonk in Hawaii thinks that the relatively puny collisions of the LHC might cause a microscopic black hole that will devour the planet, or that some scary hypothetical thing like a stranglet or a magnetic monopole might suddenly leap into existence and start munching its way through Geneva airport, we can be sure he doesn't really know his physics...

To summarise: (i) the Universe exists; (ii) the Universe is constantly bombarded with every particle in Creation. It is therefore a racing certainty that (iii) no particle in Creation is capable of destroying the Universe. Not a certainty; science never provides us with those. But a probability so close to a certainty that no sane person would ever bet against it.

My God, they are trying to mess with people. After all the different wild assumptions about the consequences for a device like CERN, they decide to tempt fate. Even from the moment I initially heard about the mayan calender BS, I understood what they were talking about, not End of our Planet, or human-life, but the transition...... well, I gotta say, I'll give it up for the ones still wearing the Tin Foil hats, because this officially made me do a double take. This Guy is officially pulling out the beach equipment and the grill. Time to grub out. Just wow...

Also, delusion that's a very valid point, just seriously, it's like shaking the support beam and saying, "this looks sturdy" at the same time; Loki is always playing his tricks. Also, isn't there murphy's law. I mean, I've seen crazy # in during my days, stuff that probably shouldn't have happened with non-existent probability, but occurred none-the-less.

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this video i saw the other day here on ats seems relevent to your thread, its a pretty interesting view on the whole thing, here ya go.

That video is relevant to this thread. This thread was based on April Fools, and the dummy in your video is not a "Mayan Elder" but he sure as $#&@ is a Fool.

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Oh I wouldn't worry. Mankind never makes mistakes. These guys know what they're doing.

Well, I gotta run now. A friend wants me to help test his flying saucer. We'll be in outer space until the 22nd.

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You do know that when they tested the Atomic bomb, the scientist actually did believe that they would start a uncontrollable chain reaction, which could have ended mankind right there.

Why would they not push it to the limit or further this time.


"It's one of the inherent pitfalls of being a scientist - trying to maintain that distinction... between God's domain and our own. Sometimes, I forget myself." - Walter, Fringe TV series

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SO the CERN will do some "test" during the 21. What's their big idea? Make us believe they'll "open a stargate for the Rapture to begin" as some new agers believe will happen?

These guys keep timing their "experiments" in a weird fashion, alot of time they follow Astrology, which isn't very scientific.

Keep in mind that the information in this thread ended up being an April Fools Joke. Someone noticed this by following the second link in the first article. Aside from this, here is what I see with the guy in the video. Looks like false information for thee most part. He is saying that 50X50 Kilo holes in the Earth are created by CERN. Those are 31 miles square inside the Earth. How would he know? I do see one aspect of what he is saying to be evident. Methane gas will be released with warming oceans. There is no doubt this will cause fire on the Earth. This is a proven potential with warming oceans. It could be an extinction event by some perspectives. It would also suck many ships down into the oceans.

I think the Bible holds the only true interpretation of events that are coming. The largest worry will likely come from this:

Revelation 8

8 The second angel sounded his trumpet, and something like a huge mountain, all ablaze, was thrown into the sea. A third of the sea turned into blood, 9 a third of the living creatures in the sea died, and a third of the ships were destroyed.

10 The third angel sounded his trumpet, and a great star, blazing like a torch, fell from the sky on a third of the rivers and on the springs of water— 11 the name of the star is Wormwood.[a] A third of the waters turned bitter, and many people died from the waters that had become bitter.

Originally posted by DocHolidaze
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this video i saw the other day here on ats seems relevent to your thread, its a pretty interesting view on the whole thing, here ya go.

It's amazing this thread is still alive....it's an April Fool, folks!!

Somebody highlighted the fact that LHC will be running some tests before Xmas anyway, and afterwards shutting down for a while...ok but I don't think it will be "CERN LARGEST TEST EVER" as the OP says.

Indeed the two largest experiments, ATLAS and CMS have already taken place:

The six experiments at the LHC are all run by international collaborations, bringing together scientists from institutes all over the world. Each experiment is distinct, characterised by its unique particle detector. The two large experiments, ATLAS and CMS, are based on general-purpose detectors to analyse the myriad of particles produced by the collisions in the accelerator. They are designed to investigate the largest range of physics possible. Having two independently designed detectors is vital for cross-confirmation of any new discoveries made. Two medium-size experiments, ALICE and LHCb, have specialised detectors for analysing the LHC collisions in relation to specific phenomena. Two further experiments, TOTEM and LHCf, are much smaller in size. They are designed to focus on "forward particles" (protons or heavy ions). These are particles that just brush past each other as the beams collide, rather than meeting head-on.

SOURCE

ATLAS has been done in 2009 LINK and CMS in 2006 LINK

Originally posted by PaperbackWriter

Originally posted by Hellhound604
LHC will be in shutdown, as every year this time.

LHC schedule 2012

This one is slightly different:

www.scribd.com...

If you compare these two schedules you can see that, really they can say they are shut down or on standby
whenever they want.
Does it mean they are.

What are these ion "tests" done in Nov and extended?
I looked up an article because I am behind in what goes on at Cern.
I still thought they were smashing protons at each other.
So what's up with the ion testing?

Turns out they are using lead and gold ions for this.
Well that sounds familiar. Wouldn't it be funny if what CERN was really doing is the latest alchemical trick of
turning lead into gold?

I'm with the poster who was talking about how do you go about containing the heat of a hundred thousand suns in this contraption? Theoretically and what's more...logically...they couldn't.
So what are they really up to in there?

techie-buzz.com...

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www.theregister.co.uk...

en.wikipedia.org...

www.piney.com...

The beast has seven heads
Azazel is described as having seven heads
The overall appearance of second beast is not described, other than having "two horns like a lamb", and speaking "like a dragon"

Azazel is Abaddon, the beast that was and is not but will be is the angel of the abyss that will kill the two witnesses.
www.herealittletherealittle.net...

For some reason, many people don't acknowledge that there are actually two beasts described in Revelation. The False Prophet and The Beast. One will be Satan, the other will be Abaddon.

I've simply included the links above for speculative pondering. Revelation is a puzzle wrapped in an enigma, maybe these are some of the pieces. Maybe not.

well chosen dates..
if the expiriment backfiers..
they can blame the maya's

I have read the book, Apollyon Rising and the idea is interesting. Nothing about the universe we live in seems simple for sure. There are many things we can have no true conception of.

Originally posted by stupid girl
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www.theregister.co.uk...

en.wikipedia.org...

www.piney.com...

The beast has seven heads
Azazel is described as having seven heads
The overall appearance of second beast is not described, other than having "two horns like a lamb", and speaking "like a dragon"

Azazel is Abaddon, the beast that was and is not but will be is the angel of the abyss that will kill the two witnesses.
www.herealittletherealittle.net...

For some reason, many people don't acknowledge that there are actually two beasts described in Revelation. The False Prophet and The Beast. One will be Satan, the other will be Abaddon.

I've simply included the links above for speculative pondering. Revelation is a puzzle wrapped in an enigma, maybe these are some of the pieces. Maybe not.

There is NO!!!! test at CERN (at least not in the LHC) at this time!

You can read it on the official schedule under following link
espace.cern.ch...

Edit: Ahh I just see, it was already posted