Here is a graphic reason terrorist ar not peaceful muslims

These are animals, not terrorists ... they can only live, because they find wild circumstances , places where they can show up with what they done. I believe, these primitive creatures will never be able to addict to any advanced society, and they'll end up on the list of primitive criminals.

I can now see, it is a good thing to decapitate those countries and religions supporting this animal behaviour. And if Christianity must go, then it is inevitable.

Originally posted by LostSailor
Im amazed, maybe you should go talk to these terrorists, tell them we are sorry for using our missles to "terrorize" them.

Obviously common sense isn't so common

My point was, they did not label themselves terrorists did they. I am saying that a "terrorist" is label. They are just as likely to view us as terrorists as we are them. I think your neighborhood getting hit by an airstrike is a fairly "terrorfying" event. Maybe I should have explained that in simple terms.

I in no way support beheadings.

Originally posted by WisdomMaster
I won't watch the video, I had enough on TV.

Terror is evil, evil is what you think is wrong. This people think we are wrong and we think they are wrong too, so are both of us evil?

Who's the terrorist?

Who's the terrorist, well let me tell you, Osama Ben Laden in first place, all the majahedeens who were armed by the US during the Afganistan war back in the 80's, Iraqis who are beheading innocent civilians... They are terrorists.
Some of what US troops are doing in Iraq is wrong some is right, but most things that US government does is wrong. Some US soldiers terrorised prisoners in Abu Graib, and that is wrong. A lot of Iraqi terrorists participated in kidnapping civilians in Iraq and later executing them by decapitation, that's the worst.
You might say the US troops kill and harm civilians as well, TRUE, but most of them don't do it on purpose, but of course there are maniacs who do
At the same time, these terrorists didn't kill a soldier, or an officer, they killed a civil engineer, who just happens to come from the US, they also executed three citizens of FYR of Macedonia yesterday, and I see no explanation for this.
The same is happening in Russia, and that is why I responded to this thread... The terrorists had enough courage to attack civil buildings and killing more than 300 people while they slept during September 1999, these same people had guts to go and blow up metro trains, where many people died as well, they could place explosives onboard two passanger aircraft recently (a Tu-134 and Tu-154), they could blow up a bomb in front of the metro entrance, and they could hold hostage BABIES, little CHILDREN, parents, GRANDPARENTS, and teachers in Beslan... But at the same time they can't fight bravely like the Russian troops, to take an AK-47 which they have plenty, and confront the army... Well, everyone knows, most of them would be dead in less than 2 weeks, but if they want to rebel they shouldn't act like the worst cowards... The same thing goes for Iraq.

Yes it is wrong. But they probably see indiscriminate air strikes that harm civilians evil too.

Terrorism is only relevant to which side you are on.

Terrorism is not relevant at all, killing a child, behading a civilian, blowing up houses, buildings, cars on the streets, and targeting the actions towards civilians is terrorism.
Fight these people, like Russia is doing in Chechnya or USA is doing in Iraq and Afganistan is NOT terrorism. At the same time we have a war between Israelis and Palestinians in the Gaza Strip, but it is completely different than it appears, it actually isn't even similar to this... Palestinians blow up a bus in Tel Aviv, but at the same time, Israelis start destroying a refugee camp in Rafa, so you can't say Palestinactions have no reasons, but what reasons do some Iraqis have to behead an engineer who came to help rebuilding Iraq??? Or what do #@!@!$# chechens get from taking over the school in Beslan??? Or when they made the cowardish attack in Nord-Ost theatre in Moscow??? Or the 9/11???
No one targeted their civilians, targets were terrorists

damn good points!!!

this web site is so full of liberal "open-minded" thinkers that..........

I cant say anymore... ill just make to many people angry... Killing innocent people, civilians, purposefully, is TERRORISM...

For you to say we are terroroists to them is a blantent misnomer... and I think you really need to get a life and figure out that these terrorists hate you... they hate you because your free... they hate you because you arent starving, they hate you because you are educated... they hate you because your NOT muslim!!!!

We here in the US dont care that they're muslim,,, we believe in freedom of religion... they do not!!!

YOU figure it out... im still pissed someone said WE were terrorists to them!!!

Originally posted by LostSailor
they hate you because you arent starving, they hate you because you are educated... they hate you because your NOT muslim!!!!

No, they hate you because you bombed their country.

There is a difference between explanation and justification.
You can explain WHY some people kill, that doesn't mean you justify it.

These animals simply want money. Because the US and british Gov't doesn't give any, they kill the victims. But what if they gave money? They would let the victim go, and the media would make a show of that. This money then could be used to support more terrorist attacks on civilians. So the best thing to hold back any money, and consider the victims dead. Otherwise more 911 events will occur, and thousands will die.

It is a stupid thing to say, that these pigs kill innocent civilians because their neighbour died in an US attack. The case is different. These are fanatic criminals, who had the right to torture and kill previously, and they need a support for their sick mind. They are only capable of terrorist attack because it is done in an organized manner in terrorist groups. Once these groups are gone, they'll become pity serial killers with a meaningless life.


[edit on 23-10-2004 by Vertu]

hmmm....
"animals" hmmm...

two sides to every story (Warning Graphic!!!)

there's more to this pic, it shows where the childs' feet were.

No, they hate you because you bombed their country.


These are terrorists, they have no country, if they had their way they would rule over everyone by using fear to control the people!!!

We didnt bomb their country we bombed them, they kill innocent people who try to help other "peaceful" people. We don't capture terrorists and behead them with pocket knives!!!

Get your facts straight before you make ignorant statements!!!

Originally posted by LostSailor
Get your facts straight before you make ignorant statements!!!

I think your post was the most ignorant statement I have seen in some time.

[edit on 23-10-2004 by Kriz_4]

Ignorant? or just something you didnt want to hear?

Trust me, I'm not ignorant!

Ignorant is believing that leaving these countries alone is the best thing for us, they would have attacked us anyways even if we did leave them alone because they don't like our freedom. They fear our power. They HATE our money. They HATE!!!

Originally posted by LostSailor
Ignorant? or just something you didnt want to hear?

Ignorant.

I can't exactly agree with the comparing of terrorists to the military.

US troops may torture civilians, they may even deliberately kill hundreds by dropping bombs on them, but it's not an organized hostile operations on civilians, and those who do this, usually don't get away with it, and will be punished. Generally the war is against the barbarians located at that area, dominating the resources. Unlike this, terrorists have one aim, is to kill as many civilians as possible , no matter what it takes.

Did you imagine, what would happen if detailed weaponary and military would be under command at the terrorist side? They would even nuke the world just for fun. This game has nothing to do with the war. If there wouldn't be war, they would find other target, it's that simple. During the saddam regime, they killed their own civilians for drinking wine, using computer, etc. What's the difference? Probably the media issue.

Originally posted by Kriz_4

Originally posted by LostSailor
Ignorant? or just something you didnt want to hear?

Ignorant.

Ok, and now get this back on topic!!!

By the way, Kriz you are the one who is ignorant!

originaly posted by lostsailor
I think this may help some people understand why and who we are fighting in Iraq.

Not at all. Makes me see we should get the hell out.

This is the first time i have seen a video like this. I have seen some still photos but there not a patch on the video. It doesn�t make me feel like i want to support the governments for there actions, it just angers me more that they had to go and start this illegal war leading to this kind of desperate action by extremists.

You lot go on and on, blah Muslim this, blah Muslim that. You don�t have to go to far back in history to find your own governments doing worse.

Muslims ARE NOT terrorists. IDIOT.

Yes there is a lot of ignorance on this thread.

I do not support what these people are doing but what we all mostly get to see is what our governments want us to see in the media. When they say most Iraqis wanted sadam out they really mean a few thousand oppressed supporters of democracy wanted sadam out. The rest of the country was quite happy. These people are not westerners they don�t won�t prison upon prison full of criminals or porn at their petrol stations.

Iraqi people are not you. Not in any form or way. They are Arabs. They have different values and different ways at looking at things and trying to impose a democratic society upon them is the worst thing we could have done. I mean come on, we westerners don�t even have a proper democracy. American politicians pay people to vote for them among other things.

What happened in Russia was terrible to and again i do not support that but, we only get to hear a little bit here and there about what the Russians have done in Chechnya to the chechnian people.


[edit on 24-10-2004 by kode]

What happened in Russia was terrible to and again i do not support that but, we only get to hear a little bit here and there about what the Russians have done in Chechnya to the chechnian people.

So do you think you know more than what you heard here and there? Because if you do maybe you should share that information with us? And just so you know, majority of Chechen people voted for staying in Russian Federation, and that is why they're still our republic!

Originally posted by kode
This is the first time i have seen a video like this. I have seen some still photos but there not a patch on the video. It doesn�t make me feel like i want to support the governments for there actions, it just angers me more that they had to go and start this illegal war leading to this kind of desperate action by extremists.

You lot go on and on, blah Muslim this, blah Muslim that. You don�t have to go to far back in history to find your own governments doing worse.

I guess, you don't know what you are talking about. And yes, we can go back far in the history to days when humans were even more primitive than today, but today is what's happening now. People do make mistakes, so do governments. But whatever is going on around the terrorism, is sick and disgusting.

Everybody knows that the war is around the oil, not the terrorism. For terrorism there could be other solutions than war. No doubt. But those beasts are killing to make themselves happy, not for their country. There is the damn difference. Do you understand me?

And just so you know, majority of Chechen people voted for staying in Russian Federation, and that is why they're still our republic!

Did they vote for that at the end of tank barrel? I wonder. Like i said there is no real democracy. Just because you heard they did doesn�t mean that�s what really happened. Are you chechnian?

I don�t think i know more than anyone else, i have no info except for the sometimes very open and very good media we get in the UK. And i get to read a few other world news sites on the internet and ats, which helps give me a better understanding of what�s going on.

And i don�t like it at all one bit.

I don�t think the media feeds us lies all the time but the more sources you can get it from the better.

But those beasts are killing to make themselves happy, not for their country. There is the damn difference. Do you understand me?

There killing to make a point. where do you get the idea that there doing it for fun?

Originally posted by kode

And just so you know, majority of Chechen people voted for staying in Russian Federation, and that is why they're still our republic!

Did they vote for that at the end of tank barrel? I wonder. Like i said there is no real democracy. Just because you heard they did doesn�t mean that�s what really happened. Are you chechnian?

I don�t think i know more than anyone else, i have no info except for the sometimes very open and very good media we get in the UK. And i get to read a few other world news sites on the internet and ats, which helps give me a better understanding of what�s going on.

And i don�t like it at all one bit.

I don�t think the media feeds us lies all the time but the more sources you can get it from the better.

No, I am Russian, but I've been to Chechnya, and talked to their people both there and in Moscow, they all want to stay in Russia! And no they didn't vote at the end of a tank barrel. They actually voted while Ahmat Kadyrov was elected president of Chechnya, and he wanted to know what to do so he made this voting and majority wanted to stay with Russia, only the extremists were against... Better check your information, before writing something like this!

dude... you're nuts... go move to Iraq you freak!

sorry thats directed at the lunatic kode

[edit on 23-10-2004 by LostSailor]