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2012 and Project Blue Beam
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How is Christ responsible for killing people? Maybe You are looking it from the wrong angle. Maybe both of us are wrong (probably the case). I was always fascinated by the Garden of Eden, and subjective and objective reality and the principal theory about it:
Originally posted by MasonicFantom
reply to post by Fichorka
Ok, your last post was just crazy, but let me throw this out there.
I'm not keeping an official tally, but methinks Christ has gotten way more people killed, hurt, and has spread more ignorance and prejudice than the "Antichrist" has throughout history (assuming both are even real in the first place and can take blame).
What if you've been looking at this from the wrong angle? Think like a conspiracy theorist here on the greatest scale of all.
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See this for example. It is "Maya"
Maya or Māyā (Sanskrit माया māyāa[›]), in Indian religions, has multiple meanings, usually quoted as "illusion", centered on the fact that we do not experience the environment itself but rather a projection of it, created by us.
...Anyway good night to me. See ya.
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Originally posted by Afterthought
reply to post by DoYouEvenLift
It's the old chicken/egg situation where we're trying to decide which came first.
Eggs came first.
Remember the dinosaurs?
sry for off-topic
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Originally posted by MasonicFantom
reply to post by Fichorka
Ok, your last post was just crazy, but let me throw this out there.
I'm not keeping an official tally, but methinks Christ has gotten way more people killed, hurt, and has spread more ignorance and prejudice than the "Antichrist" has throughout history (assuming both are even real in the first place and can take blame).
What if you've been looking at this from the wrong angle? Think like a conspiracy theorist here on the greatest scale of all.
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I am 100% in agreement with Fantom's posts on this thread, while I don't believe BlueBeam does exist, if it did, a fake alien invasion would be just as effective and uniting as faking the God Squad. Fake aliens that say they created us but we didn't understand tech back then so we called them gods and now their here and we must all listen. Sounds just as good to me if not better than some imaginary god doing the white robe jig in the sky. In the end seeing people less divided isn't necessarily globalism, you can be united and still maintain your distinctions seperate peoples and nations, so yeah like Fantom I think it would be a good thing to see this silly, antiquated and dangerous notion of God done away with. However you cut it BlueBeam likely doesn't exist yet, and Jesus going the way of Santa and the Tooth Fairy sounds like a world I'd be quite content in
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7-12-2012 by Aeneid because: attention deficiet disorder
I've been studying project blue beam for years now.
I really think the only way they are going to pull off an alien invasion is with project blue beam.
The mother ship could be hovering above New York City, just above the cloud line. It would still be a projected hologram even as clouds pass below it. It would look real and natural.
All flights would be canceled with ships above every major city and despite the massive amounts of conspiracy threads on ATS saying that they are only holograms, the world will be told The Official Story. And, that's why we are at war with the aliens, and that's why it's martial law time, and that's why we have forced slave labor to build ships and bunkers, etc..
Another lie, this one will wrap up the "Religion Project" and unite the world under a new belief system based on "knowledge" given to us by the "Authorities".
I really think the only way they are going to pull off an alien invasion is with project blue beam.
The mother ship could be hovering above New York City, just above the cloud line. It would still be a projected hologram even as clouds pass below it. It would look real and natural.
All flights would be canceled with ships above every major city and despite the massive amounts of conspiracy threads on ATS saying that they are only holograms, the world will be told The Official Story. And, that's why we are at war with the aliens, and that's why it's martial law time, and that's why we have forced slave labor to build ships and bunkers, etc..
Another lie, this one will wrap up the "Religion Project" and unite the world under a new belief system based on "knowledge" given to us by the "Authorities".
Originally posted by Fichorka
Exactly! When I saw Tupac's hologram concert it instantly reminded me of project blue beam. If they show this technology to public (on concert), then you can only wonder what kind of technology they have.
Yeah, The Tupac thing made me think about blue beam as well. The problem is this my friend. When you suggest that all animals are bugged by the elite in order to hunt down anyone who can survive off of the land, it puts up a wall to your cause for anyone who can think rationally. That is just mindless drivel my friend, they have not bugged all the animals.
Saying things like that only hurts the message that you want to get out. ~$heopleNation
The only problem I see with this is the idea of mind control. However I cant completely rule that out as there seems to be even inconsistencies in the
news like John Holmes who was studying to be a doctor but then randomly walks into a Movie theatre and starts blasting people with automatic weapons?
Then gets hospitalised for trying to kill himself? They say truth is stranger than fiction. However I dont like the idea of mind control it seems like
it has been used in the most horrible crimes in mass murderers:
www.huffingtonpost.com...
Originally posted by atkins1999
The only problem I see with this is the idea of mind control. However I cant completely rule that out as there seems to be even inconsistencies in the news like John Holmes who was studying to be a doctor but then randomly walks into a Movie theatre and starts blasting people with automatic weapons? Then gets hospitalised for trying to kill himself? They say truth is stranger than fiction. However I dont like the idea of mind control it seems like it has been used in the most horrible crimes in mass murderers: www.huffingtonpost.com...
JAMES Holmes...JOHN Holmes was the abnormally ummmm...'endowed' porn star from the 70's that died of AIDS
If you're interested in Project Blue Beam and you like a good fictional dramatic read, check out this short story
www.abovetopsecret.com...
Originally posted by scmoG
reply to post by Fichorka
It really is odd that no one believes in blue beam anymore isn't it? I think we both know why. Now, regarding the gods appearance, Jesus was the only One to warn us of such an event.
Matthew 24:23-26 KJV
Then if any man shall say unto you, Lo, here is Christ, or there; believe it not. [24] For there shall arise false Christs, and false prophets, and shall shew great signs and wonders; insomuch that, if it were possible, they shall deceive the very elect. [25] Behold, I have told you before. [26] Wherefore if they shall say unto you, Behold, he is in the desert; go not forth: behold, he is in the secret chambers; believe it not.
To add one more thing;
2 Thessalonians 2:8-12 KJV
And then shall that Wicked be revealed, whom the Lord shall consume with the spirit of his mouth, and shall destroy with the brightness of his coming: [9] Even him , whose coming is after the working of Satan with all power and signs and lying wonders, [10] And with all deceivableness of unrighteousness in them that perish; because they received not the love of the truth, that they might be saved. [11] And for this cause God shall send them strong delusion, that they should believe a lie: [12] That they all might be damned who believed not the truth, but had pleasure in unrighteousness.
You'd have to be quite foolish to not think technology will play a big role in the deception.
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Actually none of those lines of scripture say anything about project blue beam at all!
And Jesus actually didn't say anything about it! Not one thing!
Fact!
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Originally posted by Fichorka
Originally posted by Afterthought
reply to post by DoYouEvenLift
Just look at how Tupac can give a concert now. The hologram looks damned real. I am left to believe that this is all just one part of the dry run. Just them testing things to get all the kinks out.
Exactly! When I saw Tupac's hologram concert it instantly reminded me of project blue beam. If they show this technology to public (on concert), then you can only wonder what kind of technology they have.
I also had an idea that many famous (moral and good) people who were assasinated, were actually abducted by the elite. Legends such as Michael Jackson, Tupac, Bob Marley and others. And they could be used as a 'gift' from antichrist pretending to be God ressurecting them into life. While actually they were kidnapped, hidden and later brainwashed in preparation for great deception. hahaha ... could be true. THEY COULD EVEN CLONE MARTIN fuc**ng LUTHER KING AND CLAIM HE WAS RESSURECTED!edit on 7/12/2012 by Fichorka because: (no reason given)
Now this is just weird! I was thinking about how the music industry is already using this technology but only thought it...
In my member center it showed a post to me from you but I only see this post and it is not addressed to me???
if you see a Jesus/Mohamed/Buddha hologram in the sky,
just take a laser and aim it high
and make your own light show
just take a laser and aim it high
and make your own light show
We already have a new world religion.
Science and consumer object fetishism. iGod.
Science and consumer object fetishism. iGod.
reply to post by Fichorka
Again, like so many posters (usually self centred Americans) you only consider NASA as the only space observing entity in the world.
What about:
European Space Agency
China National Space Administration
Indian Space Research Organization
Russian Federal Space Agency
Many other nations
...also millions of amateur astronomers
Don't you think one or all of those would have seen something??
Again, like so many posters (usually self centred Americans) you only consider NASA as the only space observing entity in the world.
What about:
European Space Agency
China National Space Administration
Indian Space Research Organization
Russian Federal Space Agency
Many other nations
...also millions of amateur astronomers
Don't you think one or all of those would have seen something??
Originally posted by avatar01
We already have a new world religion.
Science and consumer object fetishism. iGod.
Science and consumer object fetishism are two completely different things.
One is looking at the world logically without blindly accepting ancient fairy-tales as fact in the pursuit of truth and knowledge, the other is a bunch of bloated monkeys (who I might add, are often religious, not just "scientific") having too many resources and deciding wasting it is necessary to remain status-quo.
Also, science differs from religion in that it can be observed, tested, and proven.
And yes, I know the old "science doesn't prove anything, it just creates theories" argument, so let's not even start it. A scientific theory is something that is proven which is actually BASED of of several scientific facts.
You're likely coming from the standpoint of someone who doesn't understand the difference between scientific and colloquial theories.
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7-12-2012 by HairlessApe because: (no reason given)
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I don't know if you're in the US, or Europe? But, what percentage of the WORLD's population hold your views that an antichrist and one-world gov't and religion would be good for all of us?
I"m in the US, with 50% of the US population voting for the Obama administration, expecting gov't to take care of them, I'd think the percentage would be about 25 - 30%.
Over the muslim countries (middle east, africa, parts of asia) I'd think the percentage would be about 5%.
Over Europe, I'd think it'd be about 45%.
I'd think the World's population that has absolutely no clue, doesn't follow religion, politics, or for that matter encroaching war and natural disasters, I'm thinking about 60% of the World's population is sitting and watching Big Brother, trying to feed their children desperately, doing drugs or some other illegal activity with no mind to what may be going on around them.
A brilliant light show could fool them.
I don't know if you're in the US, or Europe? But, what percentage of the WORLD's population hold your views that an antichrist and one-world gov't and religion would be good for all of us?
I"m in the US, with 50% of the US population voting for the Obama administration, expecting gov't to take care of them, I'd think the percentage would be about 25 - 30%.
Over the muslim countries (middle east, africa, parts of asia) I'd think the percentage would be about 5%.
Over Europe, I'd think it'd be about 45%.
I'd think the World's population that has absolutely no clue, doesn't follow religion, politics, or for that matter encroaching war and natural disasters, I'm thinking about 60% of the World's population is sitting and watching Big Brother, trying to feed their children desperately, doing drugs or some other illegal activity with no mind to what may be going on around them.
A brilliant light show could fool them.
Originally posted by Afterthought
I don't know why so many people have decided to discount Blue Beam. Maybe when the trolls began infiltrating ATS, their voices and mockery of the people who believed caused minds to change and the others simply gave up or shut up. Sad really. I know the tech is there. I've oftened wondered if the sounds and rumblings are part of Blue Beam. We're so submerged in video games and movies that it would be easy to display things in the sky. Just look at how amusement park rides have 4-D movies. I believe that these are dry runs to see how people are psychologically affected by the sights, sounds, smells, and sensations they experience.
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Well, I hope I had at least some part in dispelling the Blue Beam fraud. That is exactly what it is. Here's my thread from 2010:
Project Bluebeam is a HOAX
And no matter how hard believers want to make it so, it is just not reality. Sure, we have some technology that can do amazing things. But Blue Beam was part of a TV series script and the fundamentalist Christian Serge Monast took that story and ran with it to the bank after preaching the lie all over the world.
As for those of us who realize Blue Beam is a hoax, stop with the claims we're "trolls" or "shills". You and the rest are simply being cowards because you have no evidence for the silly Blue Beam myth.
Another claim Blue Beam believers make is that HAARP is responsible for most of the major earthquakes, storms, and various catastrophes throughout the world. I've talked to some of these true believers and there is just no getting through to them that other forces are at work -- perhaps many different forces -- none of which we can pin down or even prove. Yet, they insist that everything's caused by HAARP -- rubber stamping that belief without considering other possibilities.
The one common theme running through these beliefs is that the government is behind it all. Let's think a bit more clearly about this: if you've ever witnessed governments at work close up you'd have to laugh at the theory that they could pull off a faked alien invasion or consistently create weather patterns, earthquakes or tsunamis. They can rarely get basic paperwork right, how do you think they can pull off a worldwide ET invasion?
Originally posted by Afterthought
Blue Beam is difficult to wrap your mind around, but we all need to remember that we aren't dealing with Mr./Mrs. Everyperson here. There are psychopaths pulling the strings. They have the money to create such a show and use compartmentalization to keep those involved working on different details of the project without being able to put the pieces together and figure it out.
Just look at how Tupac can give a concert now. The hologram looks damned real. I am left to believe that this is all just one part of the dry run. Just them testing things to get all the kinks out.
Compartmentalization works well on many projects. But when you're talking about an alleged worldwide hoax, at some point most involved would have to coordinate with each other to pull it off successfully. That's just not going to happen and the "secret" would be revealed rather quickly, thus exposing the hoax. As for the Tupac concert -- certainly that is incredible technology but doesn't translate into gods-in-the-sky technology.
The Bible states that the second coming will be when everyone believes in the same God.Maybe after BlueBeam the second coming might be near to save
us. I am not religious whatsoever but I think it somehow fits together...
I really don't have an opinion or belief about the project blue beam conspiracy one way or another. However, I will point out ideas on how such a feet
could be achieved technology wise.
Chipping everything might be easier then you think. They have bacteria that can manufacture nano scale computer chips. You culture enough bacteria in tanks, and just pore in the resources they need and they can pump out as many nano chips as needed. These nano chips do not need to be overly advanced, just small, each with basic functionality and a unique identifier code. Then they just spray it everywhere. Satellites and UAVs with sophisticated imaging and sensor technology, that already exist, do fly-byes and just record the map of chips. To read the data they would use data mining AIs which would plot the models, and there done. All realistically feasible if multiple black op type organizations where working together across the globe.
Complete mind control on a mass scale I can't see being feasible; but, they realistically would not need complete control. The easiest way would be getting the device into every cellphone, computer or TV. Wifi and related technologies all already broadcast at 2.4 giga hertz, which is the resonance frequency of water. This is done because the signal resonances with water, which is everywhere, and extends the signal. I point this out; because, we are mostly made of water, and so are our brains. Experiments done on advanced psychological tricks for adverting have been going on for a while, and they are getting pretty advanced in their techniques. Complete control is unlikely, but they would only need enough control to steer the herd.
I am not saying this is what is actually going on, but to the people who auto dismiss blue beam by saying its impossible, need to sit back and really think. I pose this question to them, do you know how every part in a satellite works? do you know how every technology in your cellphone or computer works? do you know what the physics professors in the universities study? or the engineers? Do you think they each know what each other is doing? The truth is most people, even people who think they know, really have no idea to how fare the capabilities of current modern technologies extend. Let alone those of the private and military sector. I say keep an open mind, balance it so your brain doesn't fallout. Don't believe anything with out solid proof, but don't dismiss anything without solid proof proving that it is false. People originally said it would be impossible for man to fly; it is now so common place we almost don't even think about it anymore.
Chipping everything might be easier then you think. They have bacteria that can manufacture nano scale computer chips. You culture enough bacteria in tanks, and just pore in the resources they need and they can pump out as many nano chips as needed. These nano chips do not need to be overly advanced, just small, each with basic functionality and a unique identifier code. Then they just spray it everywhere. Satellites and UAVs with sophisticated imaging and sensor technology, that already exist, do fly-byes and just record the map of chips. To read the data they would use data mining AIs which would plot the models, and there done. All realistically feasible if multiple black op type organizations where working together across the globe.
Complete mind control on a mass scale I can't see being feasible; but, they realistically would not need complete control. The easiest way would be getting the device into every cellphone, computer or TV. Wifi and related technologies all already broadcast at 2.4 giga hertz, which is the resonance frequency of water. This is done because the signal resonances with water, which is everywhere, and extends the signal. I point this out; because, we are mostly made of water, and so are our brains. Experiments done on advanced psychological tricks for adverting have been going on for a while, and they are getting pretty advanced in their techniques. Complete control is unlikely, but they would only need enough control to steer the herd.
I am not saying this is what is actually going on, but to the people who auto dismiss blue beam by saying its impossible, need to sit back and really think. I pose this question to them, do you know how every part in a satellite works? do you know how every technology in your cellphone or computer works? do you know what the physics professors in the universities study? or the engineers? Do you think they each know what each other is doing? The truth is most people, even people who think they know, really have no idea to how fare the capabilities of current modern technologies extend. Let alone those of the private and military sector. I say keep an open mind, balance it so your brain doesn't fallout. Don't believe anything with out solid proof, but don't dismiss anything without solid proof proving that it is false. People originally said it would be impossible for man to fly; it is now so common place we almost don't even think about it anymore.
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reply to post by Happy1
Forget about calling it the "Antichrist" and instead just look at what it supposedly plans to do according to the part I quoted. It plans to abolish all world religions, show people their error, stop "brothers from killing brothers", and remind them there is but one God. Maybe this current generation won't like that, but it's what humanity needs on its next step towards advancement and, as I said, most rational people (probably those who aren't super religious) can agree with that easily.
Enough petty squabbling and bloodshed over multiple definitions of the SAME thing. PS I'm not addressing the practicality of this idea or saying it'll happen. Pretty sure whichever variation people subscribe to (alien, holograms, real supernatural being) is not going to happen.
As far as a one-world government goes, that's the inevitable endgame. It has the potential to be great - it depends who is running it and how it's organized. Right now the idea always seems terrible because our world is very unstable and, ironically, it's those who are trying feverishly to form this NWO that are causing it. They are doing so because it's the first step in establishing the system and having it be embraced (it's the most tumultuous step in a civilization's advancement from a Type 0 to a "Type 1 civilization"). Do you think advanced alien civilizations have individual country based governments? They wouldn't have gotten to that point if they did. They probably even have a confederation between multiple species and civilizations because any war at their stage would destroy entire solar systems. Then again, this point is irrelevant if you don't believe in aliens.
Forget about calling it the "Antichrist" and instead just look at what it supposedly plans to do according to the part I quoted. It plans to abolish all world religions, show people their error, stop "brothers from killing brothers", and remind them there is but one God. Maybe this current generation won't like that, but it's what humanity needs on its next step towards advancement and, as I said, most rational people (probably those who aren't super religious) can agree with that easily.
Enough petty squabbling and bloodshed over multiple definitions of the SAME thing. PS I'm not addressing the practicality of this idea or saying it'll happen. Pretty sure whichever variation people subscribe to (alien, holograms, real supernatural being) is not going to happen.
As far as a one-world government goes, that's the inevitable endgame. It has the potential to be great - it depends who is running it and how it's organized. Right now the idea always seems terrible because our world is very unstable and, ironically, it's those who are trying feverishly to form this NWO that are causing it. They are doing so because it's the first step in establishing the system and having it be embraced (it's the most tumultuous step in a civilization's advancement from a Type 0 to a "Type 1 civilization"). Do you think advanced alien civilizations have individual country based governments? They wouldn't have gotten to that point if they did. They probably even have a confederation between multiple species and civilizations because any war at their stage would destroy entire solar systems. Then again, this point is irrelevant if you don't believe in aliens.
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