Strange events concerning Dec 22nd 2012- Maybe a good idea to read this. Maybe not

Originally posted by Fraudfinder
Thank you for your post.

To those of you who laugh and rebuke people who believe in God but then believe in spirits are hypocrites. It can not be both ways. If there is a God then there are spirits. There are both good and bad spirits. So what does God say about communicating with spirits? He says it is forbidden. Why? Simple.....to protect us from harm.

Many spirits come to us as "light" and "love" however their goals are to deceive us. They know not to come as mean and evil spirits because we will turn away from them. They understand that to get us to believe and to follow they must touch upon our feelings and emotions. Once you surrender to their teachings, they own you.

I reviewed the photographs you submitted and some are familiar to me from years of research. Any spirit guide who represents themselves coming from ZETA is a fallen/evil spirit. Their main purpose is to teach us that they made us and that they are our Gods. They do this to keep you from the truth; to seperate you from the one true God.

To those of us who believe in God ...... there is one God and only one God not many gods.

I ask you and all who read this to be very careful. Meditating with a clear or open mind opens many spiritual doors and anything can walk in. Our minds operate at a low frequency and so do evil spirits. Meditation can be beneficial when done correctly. Meditate on the word of God, concentrate of what he teaches and you will experience the love and peace that comes with this.

Yoga meditation is part of the occult and is dangerous. Do NOT listen to these spirits. It can lead to a full body possession. It will destroy your mind and soon hallucinations will start that could lead to suicide or harm to one of your love ones.

It is written - test each spirit to see if it belongs to God. Ask each spirit if it follows Jesus and accepts Jesus for who he is and wait for the answer. I think you will be surprised as to how the spirits react.

God bless you.

Fraud .....very well put you took the words right out of my head and heart meditation is a transitional state of the soul/mind with good is evil you must protect yourself before any meditation is done. Meditation is wonderful and very hard to achieve. Be safe everyone

Originally posted by cartesia
Why hasn't god spoken to me?

Why doesn't god speak to EVERYONE?

"God" isn't some guy. It's an idea we created to explain the unexplainable. "God" is everything, and you are a part of it.

And to answer your question: yes, "God" can talk to you. You just have to listen.

That answer might frustrate you, but it's true. In today's world we humans over complicate things.

Originally posted by VreemdeVlieendeVoorwep

Originally posted by kmstar
reply to post by VreemdeVlieendeVoorwep

 

When my cousin released his book, I doubted him in the same way but still read it... after hearing that this woman has received the same messages in the same manner, I do believe this may be something to pay attention to.

Fair enough. I read the whole OP and found it interesting, yet, I still do not believe it. It is a good read though.

Do you not think it might be possible that your cousin, and the op's mom, might have been influenced by the same things, thus are experiencing the same type of "relevations"?

vvv

I have thought it might be possible. but i don't know, this book is 472 pages long and he is in the middle of writing another one... he says he has been receiving these messages for many years. I doubt he would commit his life to something that he wasn't sure about... but again that is my opinion.

On another topic, Something interesting about summoning other spirits (taken from my cousin's book, choose to ignore them if you wish)

" summoning powers other than the Almighty Lord will and can only lead you astray, as all other sub-Gods are not the highest voice for you, but are only deviations and distractions from the almighty truth that is within all of you,
nonetheless, all these many gods that embrace the halls of the spiritual world are like the rungs of the ladder of gold that will ultimately lead you to the almighty gates etc etc..."

so it seems to me (if we were to take these words as truthfully 'God''s words), that you must be careful in talking to other 'spirits' or 'angels', but they will all eventually lead you to 'God'.

reply to post by Wrabbit2000


WTH?

Yeah, I'm with you Wrabbit...they'll be all up on here if it goes that direction. I personally haven't seen that direction cruising through it.

Look, there are things in this world our science can't explain. It doesn't mean they aren't real phenomenon, and won't be explained by science later in the future.

Yes, I can "channel" -- do I do it? Not really anymore. As I said, people don't think it's a fun party trick. I don't even tell people I can. It's probably a mental state of self-hypnosis/meditation.

Do I really think I've talked to "ascended beings"? No. Nothing I have gained from any of that stuff has given me any kind of "heads up" or "advantage" over what is currently already known and has been studied.

And I hate to say it...but damn there is *something* about that nonsensical Urantia Book.

OP -- ask you Mom about the Urantia Book for me as a favor, please? I swear that thing has something going on, even if it makes no sense whatsoever.

This is pretty much all BS. I'm not disputing necessarily that this didn't happen, but I am saying it's both things that actually happened coupled with OP's personal beliefs on the matter.

The time of books is over? Could this be because you've never read any of the ones you've listed? Hmm, pretty convenient.

I mean, I do agree we learn faster than what books could ever teach us, but when God is not making vocal contact with you in your head, you have the Truth which you know and you have the Word also. I do agree that this existence is to find God though. That's why it's so easy to see God as just a product of religion and church and thinking people are out to scam you and only seeing the hypocrites, which ruins the whole message all together and keeps some people from finding God for a really long time in their lives. We're all intended to go through the atheism/agnostic phase in our lives where we question things, but some people don't ever make it out of that. Anyway, I do agree that's why we're here. Period. That's the challenge.

However, the rest of your post was BS. I'm sure your mom did have an experience, but you are BS. And honestly, the way you speak about your mother is like you're having sex with her. It's a little too close and weird. You're in a co-dependent relationship with your mother.

To me it sounds like an elaborate get out clause for when NOTHING happens on 21st December. So the OP is in a win win situation, no one will be able to prove or disprove this story when the date arrives.

So very cleverly written, but i call poppycock.

Very interesting story. Thank you for sharing. First of all, can you do something about your avatar, course I almost gave up on reading. Second, it's true that most of us are not ready for "shift"/"change" but no one will be left behind. You will all do it together with us, as we are here to help you. I say this only because something activated inside me on the 1.st of December. The most important is to think positively, not panic but love. Stop scaring people, change is GOOD. We will all get through this. I think most of you know that we are already "shifting".

reply to post by kmstar


First let me thank you for having a good conversation about this, no mud slinging, or name calling. Even though we might be off different opinions regarding this. Appreciate that.

Now, if your cousin, or the op;s mom really belief this story, really believe what they saw, then sure, its understandable that they would devout so much time to it. Writing books, drawing pictures, etc etc. Yet, this does not mean that it is real at all.

The experience might have been real for them, but for me as an observer of this, it certainly is not. If they chose to believe this wholeheartedly, then that is their choice.

I would also be interested to see this book your cousin wrote, maybe some pieces from it, if possible.
My mind is not entirely closed to situations like this, I just need a bit more than a second hand story.

vvv

reply to post by VreemdeVlieendeVoorwep


thank you as well, i'm sick of the fighting here, it gets us nowhere...

yeah that's true. It's kind of like religion I guess, people believe it so much that they feel the need to tell everyone all about it.
It's funny because I was never religious and believed that God was a bunch of BS, and now these messages my cousin says he received have resonated with me in an amazing way... regardless, I'm trying to keep an open mind about it.

Sadly there's no online copy, I will speak to my cousin about that. If you want to hear some of it, I'll post some verses tomorrow morning (aus time), I would do it now but I'm supposed to be getting ready to go out, instead I've been pottering around on here

Very entertaining post OP
but that is as far as it will go with me
I have the feeling that OP is playing a huge joke on ATS
why does "Wise Owl" has to look native american?
and why does "Chan" has to look like a kungfu movie villian?
Since when have cartoon drawings been proof for anything?
A video recording of your mom doing the signs might be more believable

whenever some one comes out with extraordinary claims but with zero proof
(cartoon drawings are not proof of anything)
then he/she makes sure to let you know of their "science background"
that is a red alarm
I thought people on ATS would know this
but I guess you believe what you want to believe

reply to post by kmstar


"Almighty Lord", is very different from Jesus Christ, my Savior. This is 100% Satanism, Ask satan about Jesus Chirst, he must bow.

For a different perspective on "ascending", I read, and then found a thread on ATS, because I couldn't find the link in a thread I read recently. "I found another explanation" thread is found if you search ATS. It's basically a strange story about earth birthing a new planet, a native american "prophecy".

There's a lot of strange goings on at this time. Whether TPTB are planning something technological, or something spiritual may happen, there's alot of people going through some strange stuff.

Keeping an open mind.

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But after seeing the pictures....I can't believe a word of it.

I have to say, those aliens/higher beings are so damn weird. They draw on paper with pencil, one of the best forms to show creativeness, and that's all they channel her to draw yet they create the most amazing pictures and patterns in crop fields the size of football stadiums that man has trouble mastering.

Good story, might make a good book, I'm sure the new agers will love it. Go make some money son.

reply to post by Ewok_Boba


Hello my Dear one.

Mom: ..........????? Who is this?

I am your Lord and Creator.

Mom: ..........................what? Who is this?

I am that which you call God..................



which one of these "ascended/enlightened" beings call him self GOD?

This just confirms things I already knew. It's nice to read about experiences like this. Your mother is a very lucky lasy to speak with the creator like this while still living. S + F

Originally posted by ZakOlongapo
reply to post by Ewok_Boba

 

Hello my Dear one.

Mom: ..........????? Who is this?

I am your Lord and Creator.

Mom: ..........................what? Who is this?

I am that which you call God..................



which one of these "ascended/enlightened" beings call him self GOD?

it could of course also said here is peter or rsgrhztdju
but if she is asking and it have to tell her something what should it say else?
besides how many gods do you know, that you could say wich of these beings dont call them self god?

also it is not about "god" if she would belive the 3 powerpuff girls are god
it would say here is "blossom, bubbles and buttercup"
everyone means so pretty much the same thing, but we're humans so we have to generalize that other people will understand what we're talking about

Originally posted by Ewok_Boba

It was dated March 22nd 2002. It was written next to the picture, that an event would take place on this day, which SHE would be a key CONTRIBUTOR. Now, this is very important to remember, because it pertains to the end of this post.

Nice, but very strange post.

It makes such a change from the doom and gloom of 2012.

I never caught the significance of March 22nd 2002, first day of spring 10 years ago.

Hmm......hadn't read all OP's posts yet(I'm only at the picture post), but it's not boring.

I'm sure it's probabably ben mentioned already, but these enlightened beings, are not very good artists. Seems a little cartoonish to me.

I won't discount the hard times and all, but the messages...I do. Why would God give this guys mother a message....and then send her son to tell it? The time for books are over? God said to throw away the bible and just depend on yourself? This is dangerous when everyone has a different opinion as to what the religious truth is, many of whom say that God has spoken with them. George Bush said God spoke to him too, just before he started this mess with Iraq and Afghanistan. I recall seeing a video once on demons being excorsized from a woman and the name of the demon was , ...."the gatekeeper", I am not saying there is any relation, but I find it hard to believe that something from heaven and something from hell would have the exact same name...this demon had possessed the girl I am speaking of too. It's on YouTube here somewhere mixed in one of these demon possession vids. Wasn't the guy on Ghostbusters called the gatekeeper too.

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Sounds too much like David Wilcock and the Law of One.

Originally posted by freedom12
Hmm......hadn't read all OP's posts yet(I'm only at the picture post), but it's not boring.

I'm sure it's probabably ben mentioned already, but these enlightened beings, are not very good artists. Seems a little cartoonish to me.

I feel that the description of the drawings as "a little cartoonish" is far too delicate. The below is not a direct reply to you, freedom12, but your post just got me thinking.

Wouldn't it be nice if we could just state the obvious? The drawings look like the nonsensical doodlings of a child. They constitute strong satire, art that mocks itself.

However interesting you all may think the OP was, once drawings are posted that look sort of ridiculous, don't you reconsider the credibility?

If I did not know better, I would guess that this thread is an experiment in gullibility and the "herd mentality". The experiment is to see how absurd something must get before people begin to question it.

For example, if the enlightened beings in the doodles were named "Poo-poo", "Hooey", and "Mork", would this level of absurdity push you over the limit? What if they literally were in crayon? What if there were more misspellings and grammatical errors in the writing channeled from the enlightened ones? Review the drawings and imagine you found them in a 4th grader's notebook.

Come on people, please think, don't follow blindly. This is how cults start, with folks desperate for any answer.

You hear this all the time here: Be open-minded, but not so open-minded that your brain falls out. I think that applies here. And please align your chakras before you blast me.