Strange events concerning Dec 22nd 2012- Maybe a good idea to read this. Maybe not

reply to post by MystikMushroom


How did you recieve these messages?

Originally posted by Deny777
reply to post by Ewok_Boba

 

Also my sources tell me it's not going to be just a few million people, more like one or more billion...

A thought occurred to me regarding the discrepancies of numbers provided from claimed channels.

Considering that psychic or telepathic communication is consistently considered to be done in more of a "form" manner rather than a transcription of words... it makes sense that the literal number that comes out is actually a representation of the "size of the form" the individual receiving the communication identifies with. That's hard to explain.

In the telepathic communication the English word "Horse" wouldn't be sent. That's a very inefficient way of communicating. Instead the thing you "see" when you read the word "horse" is what is sent telepathically. That way a french person will not get a word they don't understand, they will get an image that almost everyone would understand.

When it comes to numbers, perhaps when "big number, but small percentage of world" form is sent... to one person that would "feel like" 1 billion because they have traveled a lot, and have a larger "scope" of perception of the world. Someone who has lived in a small town their whole life however might "feel like" 1 million instead because to them that feels as massive as the 1 billion to the other person.

That could be why specific numbers would vary while still giving the same "core message".

reply to post by ColAngus


i actually had a really good comeback but I can't afford the manners and decorum i'd get haha.. anyway it was a good perverse thought..

Of course you have the right to your opinion.. however I don't see what the point is of accusing someone of something that hasn't yet happened... lmao... thats a little minority report there and lots of people are interested in the story... it's a story... you can decide what to do with it.

reply to post by ColAngus


It can be in non corporeal state. Some will be able to and others will not. Sounds like his Mom was being shown how to transcend with her body in tact or a good chance for it to be anyway.

Originally posted by gnosticagnostic
reply to post by ColAngus

 

i actually had a really good comeback but I can't afford the manners and decorum i'd get haha..

Don't be such a sally.

I'm running on -3000 ATS points.

reply to post by Ewok_Boba


So...did your Mom often practice yoga in your room with the lights off when you were a teenager?

Interesting story. Made me think. Too bad it can't be proven, even if it does occur.

reply to post by karen61560


I suppose in a similar manner to the OP's mother...sort of.

These two events were spread over 3 years apart -- more than 2 years ago.

Everything the OP is saying vibes along with what I have been shown. I had an entity that called itself "Jesfe" visit me a couple of times via sleep paralysis.

I also have the ability to enter "trance zone" and basically loose control of what I say at the drop of a hat. I can do it anytime, and it takes maybe 20 seconds for whatever "takes over" to do so. It freaks people out, so I stopped doing it. I thought it would be entertaining -- other didn't think so!

I've done my fair share of exploring the nature of reality, I've seen the clear white light of enlightenment (I wasn't allowed to stick around) -- and I was able to bring back a tiny tidbit of insight:

Everything is everything.

Nothing is separate. There is no "you" -- everything is you, and you are everything. We percieve reality in such a way to make us believe we are seperated from everything else.

There is only one observer, and it's programmed (or tricked) itself into thinking it's not the observer observing itself.

This is why we should follow the golden rule, and treat everyone and everything in the world as if it were us. If we all did that...jesus...the universe might just collapse in on itself and start all over again!

ETA: I found this quote from a Tibetan Buddhis website:

Enlightenment occurs when your mind merges with nirvana, with what Tibetans call the dharmakaya, the clear light of reality, which is the highest plane of transcendental wisdom and perfect understanding.

Site

Yep, that's pretty much what I saw exactly. At that moment, I realized everything was everything. That was about 10 years ago.

People have asked here and there in deep conversations my thoughts on dying. I'm not particularly concerned with the thought of dying anymore. What I am concerned with, is not adding something unique and valuable to this world!

reply to post by ColAngus


lmao of that i have no doubt.. how many aliases are you on now?

but anywho... i'm still patiently waiting for "the rest of the story" and thats in my best paul harvey voice.

reply to post by Toadmund

now if somebody starts talking trash claiming that a group should follow them I agree it is most likely not
God speaking to them..maybe something else is..you never know. I think God speaks to us using his
great wisdom and timing and perhaps commandingly sometimes and sometimes softly. Once I heard a voice
that woke me up from sleep..It was a soft but deep commanding voice that I heard..It did not say hey ( my
name ) do this or that etc..it was just one word. I will never forget it..what or who I heard I don't know to this day
If I wanted to be important, add my ego to it all then I would have the voice say something else ..well, it
didn't. I heard Job..that's it..just Job ( like the man in the bible). I believe I heard someone on a radio program
saying the same thing virtually as your mother did about the famous 2012 date or thereabouts. That is the
scary part. Wonder what it means? I can't judge this..I can only wait and see.
njl51

Well. You know. I know you are only telling what you experienced, which means that you don't know everything. I don't find this hard to believe but I'll sit on the fence. I want you or somebody to consider this thought.. I've been reading of Socrates for a few months.. he's definitely opened my mind to a better way of thinking..

So this thought: There are two kind of people from which I observe in this OP.

1. People who transcend, estimated of 1 million humans.
2. People who stay in their current state of life for not having a connection with self/spirit.

Now you say the world is dying.. This is true, from every beginning there will come an end. When? Who knows? So about 1 million only because it's assumed these people have maintained a spiritual lifestyle. Now... Let's take a look at those in the middle. People like me, who are aware but don't really follow the style with commitment. I'm sure the answer will be "You will be left behind." In that case, the people who are actually in the know will or should start living life in the way they know they should. The abilities we have now as humans are somewhat enough for me. I know I can OBE if really want, I can heal, and all that. But let me ask you... How much better is it in the next world? Do you still have flesh? If you do, that world may even be worse than the one we're in now.

Socrates and Thoth both mention something of the flesh.. as do many of the Bible.. it's bad. Socrates states that the goal of a true philosopher is death. There is a saying in the Bible that says something along the lines of, Whoever loves this world does not love God. Our goal indeed is to detach from this world with a kindly death. Not by suicide, but by a passive mean. Food, TV, PCs, Games, the love of anything of this world... is not good. It is like a fetter to your soul as Thoth says.

So... Is this ascension really worth it? I personally rather have death, than ascension.

Originally posted by njl51
reply to post by Toadmund

 

now if somebody starts talking trash claiming that a group should follow them I agree it is most likely not
God speaking to them..maybe something else is..you never know. I think God speaks to us using his
great wisdom and timing and perhaps commandingly sometimes and sometimes softly. Once I heard a voice
that woke me up from sleep..It was a soft but deep commanding voice that I heard..It did not say hey ( my
name ) do this or that etc..it was just one word. I will never forget it..what or who I heard I don't know to this day
If I wanted to be important, add my ego to it all then I would have the voice say something else ..well, it
didn't. I heard Job..that's it..just Job ( like the man in the bible). I believe I heard someone on a radio program
saying the same thing virtually as your mother did about the famous 2012 date or thereabouts. That is the
scary part. Wonder what it means? I can't judge this..I can only wait and see.
njl51

I once heard a deep commanding voice (sounded almost like an old school radio announcer) that woke me up from sleep. It said, "...beautiful palm trees". And no, I'm not joking or being sarcastic. It was the weirdest thing, and I have no idea what it meant.

Why hasn't god spoken to me?

Why doesn't god speak to EVERYONE?

While I wont speak to the legitimacy, one way or the other, this was a very interesting read. Looking forward to the next chapter of this tale, OP. I'll hold my s&f until then.

I've always kind of thought God was a state of being, though. Just personally speaking. There's no reason people need to freak out based on your story because it mentions God, though. It's all about perspective. So, I give a pass on that in the interest of tolerance and you having piqued my interest.

The whole thing sounds demonic to me...

II Corinthians 11:14-15 - "And marvel not; for Satan himself is disguised as an angel of light. Therefore it is no great thing if his ministers also be disguised as the ministers of righteousness; whose end shall be according to their works."

Good story - your mom sounds like an interesting person. Also you are most definitively a writer, even with a science background, you're a strong writer.

So,waiting on the photos and more detail to see where this goes. Mostly commenting to follow along once the OP gets out of work and back on ATS. (Honestly, at this point I hope something for the better does happen on 12/21). Cheers.

I also would like to add that if you believe this World will be run by the NWO , some of those people like the Hildebergs (sp?) and other powerful families get together to use '___' because they believe the drug was put here to be able to connect with aliens that are watching over us and directing these people on what they should be doing. This is a short version of course and may have inaccuracies but it's the basic story. True? Who knows,stranger things happen I guess.

Thanks for sharing.

The message seems to be the "standard" message projected by particular group of entities. I was thinking that i had read this some where and i believe the Hidden_hands thread comes to mind. With that said, this to me appears to be work of humans with advanced technology falsely presenting themselves as god to further the faux Dec. 21 agenda. We are foolish to think that something magic will happen on said date, when we've already been in Universal Consciousness for some months now. The transition for some is and has already been underway. We have and will continue to be deceived on all fronts.

reply to post by Batfink420


Oddly enough and in true ATS form, I imagined if the TPTB rather than a god were to do something on 12/21 it would involved using chemtrails laced with MDMA to give the populace an artificial spiritual awakening. As in we'd all get dosed and fall in love with each other and god while believing we were saved.

Well S & F on the story
Just niece to think of all the possibility and only one is right

And that the one that right for you, will not be right for everybody else
we all travel a different road at a different pace in our journy