FranklinRoosevelt : Document Released From The Special Committee on ET Science and Technology [1944]

Originally posted by DenyObfuscation
reply to post by UltraMarine

 

Why don't the dates even match up? "Original" is 22nd and re-write is 24th.

Don't waste your time on facts and details. It is the CONTENT of the material that these people follow. (Though based on that, they likely also feel there was a real hobbit that needed to walk a ring to Mordor...)

reply to post by DenyObfuscation


Oh yes .. Forget the Re-written Doc . Read The original one

OK Fine .. I will give you another Document similar to this and you try to debunk that too...

Originally posted by UltraMarine
reply to post by DenyObfuscation

 

Oh yes .. Forget the Re-written Doc . Read The original one

I'll forget both. This is garbage but you can't admit it, can you?

Year: 1942

Name: George C. Marshall to President Franklin D. Roosevelt

Description: Document released from George C. Marshall to Franklin D. Roosevelt dated 5 March 1942

"This Headquarters has come to the determination that the mystery airplanes are in fact not earthly and according to secret intelligence sources they are in all probability of interplanetary origin".

Link : www.majesticdocuments.com...

Originally posted by UltraMarine
reply to post by Cosmic911

 

That Document is Authentic .

edit on 3-12-2012 by UltraMarine because: (no reason given)

How do you know? Never ever seen before by anyone any time "Double Secret" notwithstanding there was no such thing as proportional type printed on a laser printer in the thirties or forties. That was not printed by a typewriter, which is all they had at the time. Reminds me of the accusations about Prez Bush on his flight training printed on Microsoft Word that didn't then exist.

This is a no-brainer. The only mystery here is why you think it is authentic.

Originally posted by Cosmic911
Cool. However, this was and is no classification designation DOUBLE SECRET. This makes me instantly doubtful of its authenticity.

Yes, there is such a thing as DOUBLE SECRET. Dean Wermer put Delta House on double secret probation.

reply to post by UltraMarine


For starters, celestrial is not a word nor is this a typo as it's repeated many times.

ETA: Where did your document go? I'll check the Hoax Bin.


ETA2: Are you sticking with this other doc?

reply to post by DenyObfuscation


Here is that Document

Year: 1947

Name: Dr J Robert Oppenheimer & Professor Albert Einstein

Description: Document released titled Relationships with inhabitants of Celestial bodies dated June 1947

The first document to use the term Extraterrestrial Biological Entities (EBEs).

The presence of unidentified space craft flying in our atmosphere (and possibly maintaining orbits about our planet) is now, however, accepted as defacto by our military.

www.majesticdocuments.com...

Hardly looks like it was written by a "Dr.".

Did Oppenheimer have a schizophrenic brother with crappy grammar?

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Now you're including sources, MJ documents, that were proven by the FBI to be fake and a hoax. Man, you're killing your credibility here!

The Eisenhover briefing... about Majestic 12. Got me thinking... Of course the death of Forrestal leaves one thinking a lot about him being assassinated. He must have been a very inconvenient person running around, so they had to get rid of him. Unfortunately for Forrestal it wasn't enough to label him unbalanced. He had to die....

That lead me to thinking about the theories that Obama is in fact a CIA asset. I thought that if he was, then his family or atleast key figures in his family would have been inside somehow as well.

Upon reading a bit about his grandfather Stanley Dunham, it strikes me that under the mentioning of his former work places, they choose to call it simply "a better opportunity" when talking about the job he got on Hawaii... but when mentioning his work place in '57, almost everywhere the writers go out of their way stating the name of the company he worked for "Doces Majestic Furniture Company" and that he flew across the world to various interesting locations... such as Beirut.

Now why would they do that?

I think the whole theory about Obama being CIA is bunk, created simply to have us look the wrong places for the wrong things.

We are busy looking at surfaces, when we should be looking at what is going on behind. Maybe Stanley Dunham was CIA and maybe the Majestic 12 program was indeed a reality.

What if we simply accept this as a fact, and work from that premise? Stop bickering about what is right and wrong. Let us simply CHOOSE to say... the UFO reports in these majestic documents are real. Now what is our next move. We don't need to focus on proving it, our job is now, figuring out the connections between the people and what it is exactly they are hiding and even more important, what they are planning to do with it.

Originally posted by Cosmic911
reply to post by UltraMarine

 

Now you're including sources, MJ documents, that were proven by the FBI to be fake and a hoax. Man, you're killing your credibility here!

Proved how? Because they said so? And so you bow down and say thank you mam? Maybe it's time to bring up the thread about spook trolls... maybe put a label on you?

Originally posted by draknoir2
Hardly looks like it was written by a "Dr.".

Did Oppenheimer have a schizophrenic brother with crappy grammar?

I think its doubtful the government would bring in a man like Oppenheimer. After his work on The Manhatten Project, he made a lot of enemies in the government and military because of his anti-nuclear proliferation opinions. He was considered by some to be a communist. Ultimately, he had his security clearance revoked in 1954. After his work on the bomb he quickly fell out of favor. I doubt the government would bring him into the UFO fold, if any of it were true.

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Come on. So now you're a troll if you don't believe the majestic documents are true. You have an expert body of forensic scientists declaring those documents are not authentic. Yes, I'm going to believe them over you. I suppose you're a troll if you don't believe Bob Lazar and Dr. Greer too?

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How do you know that? You are so sure but really how do you know?

Originally posted by EvenParanoidsHaveEnemies
I still have seen nothing presented by the OP to remotely demonstrate that the original document was authentic.

Heck, even I know that they had white house stationary back then and that the president wouldn't have simply grabbed a blank 8/12 x 11 and made his own by typing "white house" at the top.

Would be neat if real, but is not made real simply by saying "this is real".

These two sentences alone say fake. "Forgo such a enterprise" should be "forgo such an enterprise "but maybe we can over look that however we cannot overlook for the Shake of Nations security.

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Like they couldnt if they wanted to. ? Thats not much of a challange.

reply to post by UltraMarine


Bing gave me a site that showed these classifications for grades of confidentiality for
government documents:
Top Secret
Secret
Confidential
Unclassified
Restricted
Unretsricted.
Not a double anything in the bunch.

Originally posted by UnBreakable

Originally posted by Cosmic911
Cool. However, this was and is no classification designation DOUBLE SECRET. This makes me instantly doubtful of its authenticity.

Yes, there is such a thing as DOUBLE SECRET. Dean Wermer put Delta House on double secret probation.

And that guy with the AH avy should know that. LOL