Tiermes, Spain -- Proof of Ancient Alien City or Lost Advanced Civilization

This is the first time I have heard of this ancient city. Sounds very interesting and is this proof of an advanced ancient civilization or even ancient alien proof? Check it out ....

One of the most remarkable ancient cities in the world is located in Northern Spain and is called Tiermes. What is extremely interesting about this city is that the architecture isn’t built, but was cut into the bedrock. Most archaeologists are certain that the people associated with the region were not the ones to build this ancient city as nothing even closely matching it is found and some even believe that ancient aliens were responsible for constructing it.
Archaeologists have been investigating the city since the end of the nineteenth century and even though research has been ongoing for over 100 years, there are still many questions that remain unanswered. Exactly who built the city and when it was constructed are two of the main questions still leaving historians baffled. The first mention of the city was done by Ptolemy in approximately 150 BC so the city dates to at least 200 BC since he mentions that the city was already constructed and had been inhabited for many years prior to him seeing it.

See the details of this amazing ancient city: expertspages.com...

reply to post by 304edgewood


Why do impressive ancient constructions make some leap to "Ancient Aliens"?

Are modern humans the only ones that can do anything on grand scales?

I think not.

Thanks for the thread

PDF on Tiermes


I went to this site in 1999 while doing the 'Oman' thing. Nice site



Are the remains of a Celtiberian town that was crucial in the wars against the Romans, similar to Numancia. Mentioned in a multitude of Empire chronicles.Independent until the I century A. C. Thereafter Romanisation arrived.In the same place as the ruins there is also a necropolis and a Visigothic hermitage.

Aerial view of the site - the excavated site is similar is limited to the 'acropolis'



The Tiermes, Termes or Tarmessite stands out among of archaeological remains in the Iberian Peninsula. In the mid 1930s, Blas Taracena, the Spanish archaeologist, organised systematic digs at the site and called Tiermes "the Spanish Pompeii".

A few comments on the items from the original posting

The piping dates to the Tiberian era and is dated to circa 14-37 AD

The first buildings date to the 1 century BC but there appears to have been a necropolis there with celtiberian graves from the 6th century BC

Proof of 'aliens'?...pfffft, give the Celtiberians and Romans the credit

Originally posted by Chamberf=6
reply to post by 304edgewood

 

Why do impressive ancient constructions make some leap to "Ancient Aliens"?

Are modern humans the only ones that can do anything on grand scales?

I think not.

Take something ordinary and manufacture some 'mysteriousness' and 'wallah' you have evidence for aliens or advanced humans.

reply to post by 304edgewood


The publisher of that article 'The Truth179' is very similar to a known hoaxer on the Scienceray website, the hoaxers alias there is Mitchey179.

Interesting article nonetheless.

reply to post by 304edgewood


Every time there's a question about something being too sophisticated for ancient man to build.



Every time.

Originally posted by grey580
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Every time there's a question about something being too sophisticated for ancient man to build.

Every time.

If we ever DO find something built or made by aliens I suspect it won't be stone work....

Aliens..... or proof that we are falling further from our intended capacity given to us prior to the Fall.

Either we did it 'cuz we were more smarterer or aliens did it.

reply to post by Hanslune

You got that right. If we ever find something built by aliens, my guess is, it will be quite obvious that we didn't build it. No debate needed.

Being that the hominids ,us,have been around for a few hundred thousand years,we use to be acutely in tune with our world in understanding how to make the best use of it to suit our needs.
I feel a good portion of that understanding has been lost through the years due to our constant conflict with each other and natural disasters.

Originally posted by Philodemus
Aliens..... or proof that we are falling further from our intended capacity given to us prior to the Fall.

Either we did it 'cuz we were more smarterer or aliens did it.

Well it never good to use a religious myth as the basis for an archaeological theory....that said this ruin isn't anything particularly unusual, there are a half dozen or so Celtiberian cities that were larger and perhaps more interesting, this one is only noted because it got 'fringified'.

Originally posted by kdog1982
Being that the hominids ,us,have been around for a few hundred thousand years,we use to be acutely in tune with our world in understanding how to make the best use of it to suit our needs.
I feel a good portion of that understanding has been lost through the years due to our constant conflict with each other and natural disasters.

There were lots of hunter gathers around in the 19th century and still to this day. In that time they were studied, although they had many notable cultural features there is nothing outstanding except for their adaptation to the environment and which was limited to that environment, take an Inuit and put him in the desert and he was doomed, take a Lascar to Greenland and he wouldn't last a day, etc, their cultures, knowledge and technology were well adapted to a specific set of conditions, removed those and they would be nearly helpless

reply to post by 304edgewood
From the article linked:

Most archaeologists are certain that the people associated with the region were not the ones to build this ancient city as nothing even closely matching it is found and some even believe that ancient aliens were responsible for constructing it.

OK, find me just one.

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Ah, preconceived notions and initial conditions are everything.

i love stuff like this! very intersting. and i gotta admit lost and very ancient city from some by gone aeon? possibly....ancient aliens......nope. have never seen any evidence that aliens have ever been here to be honest save for a few creepy vids of black coffin ufos and maybe those nasca(spelling???) lines in peru.......do people not get that life and how people did things back then were WAY different than the easy life we have now.

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You got links to everything, don't you Hans!

I looked into it too. I read the "Short Guide to Tiermes" reproduced at another website, so I googled José Luis Argente Oliver. Using google scholar, I found that, for some unknown but probably ridiculous reason, everything he wrote and published was in Spanish!

Obviously, he was hiding something!

No, really, my Spanish isn't good enough to read through his reports. I can read a little Spanish - far better than I could ever speak it - but it has been a while since I used it and now reading a technical paper in Spanish is far more than I have the ambition, or desire, to tackle.

The OP quoted that some of the city was "cut into the bedrock," a statement that comes from his link and makes it sound impressive. Once you see that the "bedrock" was sandstone, then it seems somewhat less impressive. Sandstone, though harder than limestone on Moh's scale, is notable for the ease with which it can be worked. I find it insulting that now people don't even believe humans could tunnel into sandstone, that only aliens have toy spades and pails like we used to take to the beach.

I've "carved" sandstone with a stick before, but some sandstones are harder than others.

Harte

Originally posted by kdog1982
Being that the hominids ,us,have been around for a few hundred thousand years,we use to be acutely in tune with our world in understanding how to make the best use of it to suit our needs.

Yes, between bouts of slaughtering and eating each other we were quite "in tune with our world."

In fact, we still are today, only more so and without the eating part.

Harte

Originally posted by Harte
Yes, between bouts of slaughtering and eating each other we were quite "in tune with our world."
In fact, we still are today, only more so and without the eating part. Harte

Well, even that is a fairly recent advancement...not to get all subjective and stuff.

Originally posted by Harte

In fact, we still are today, only more so and without the eating part.

Harte

Speak for yourself, I use to dine daily on Sitchinists many years ago - they were delighful with roast peppers and a spirited sauce d'Isigny-sur-Mer

Originally posted by Harte
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You got links to everything, don't you Hans!

Harte

You just need to know where to look.....

What the swine wrote everything in Spanish - ah better than Catalan. I've been trying to regain my lost German reading skills - trying to read 19th century reports on Mesopotamian sites written in high German with Gothic style fonts....impossible even with a Deutsch archaeology dictionary and a wife who knows German