Canadian Mosque Preaches Jihad..

Originally posted by crossfire
that is such a deeply depressing statistic.

It also means the world is doomed to war and tyranny.

Glad I am not a woman - for women - Islam = slow death.

Can we fight back? Do we have the guts?

Let's fight Islam before it kills us!

www.abovetopsecret.com...

2.) You will not behave in an abusive and/or hateful manner

Sound familiar?

Please, your hatemongering is just getting out of hand. First the French, then Canadians, now this.

DE

Originally posted by syntaxer
In a recording of another lecture obtained by The Canadian Press, Sheik Younus Kathrada lashes out at Israelis for killing Hamas founder Sheik Ahmed Yassin late last March.

"We know what happened over the last week and how the brothers of the monkeys and the swine assassinated and murdered one of the heroes of Islam, the Salah al-Din of this day and age, Ahmed Yassin."

"When the Muslims have a leader, when the Muslims have the strength and the ability to take on an enemy, then absolutely they call the other nations towards Islam," he says.

"Should they reject the message then they will declare war upon them. That is what we know as the offensive jihad."

"There is a good reason for that. It is in order to establish security on this Earth. It is so that the word of Allah will be the superior word."

It's funny and yet ironic, the Bush Administration is claiming to be fighting global terrorism in order to establish security on Earth. Is the spread of radical Islam growing and even worse reaching the cold northern land of Canada?

Read it here

well our socialist neighbors to the north should do something about it. if they wuss out ill be pissed!

Originally posted by KrazyIvan
well our socialist neighbors to the north should do something about it. if they wuss out ill be pissed!

So, we're supposed to strip this person of his rights because he has an aggressive political view?

I don't agree with what he has to say. But we can't prosecute him until he starts inciting others to violence or he starts spouting hate speech.

DE

Originally posted by ZeroDeep
You're a very confused, sir; Islam means peace, to embrace God, not Jihad. I could pull out just as many qoutes from the Quran to counter your attempt to label Islam as violent. Lest we forget the Torah, the Crusades, etc etc etc....
Deep

You tell that to the families of 911. Stop talking about the crusades to make Islam appear less violent as none of us were alive at the time. I am concerned with NOW not a thousand years ago. And your idea of peace to some means blowing up children for rewards from heaven.

The only person confused is yourself. You believe in something that others kill for, and pretend that it doesn't happen, or that those doing the murders are not REAL muslims. Thats a good way to get out of it just say they are not real muslims. Well they are muslims and just because you believe in peace, love, and flowers doesn't mean that 50% of the muslim world doesn't believe in martyrs, ied's, and death to the infidel.

Again with the nonsense of peace loving muslims. Islam keeps showing us a different face than the one you like to paint and the verses you choose to ignore.

Where are the mods on this site ? This thread has become a useless "bash Islam fest", i'm quite disapointed.


vincere7,

You, good sir, need to earn a proper education in Islam and all it's adherents before you try to articulate to the rest of the members how "violent" it is. Islam is as peacefull as Judiasm, it's mother, as it were; As Zionists kill for the return of thier messiah; as Christian fundamentalists kill those poor abortion doctors; as Islamic fanatics kill for reasons perpetuated and created by thier very enemy. Have you read the Quran? Have you read the Haddith? Have you read the Sunnah?

Trust me, my confused good sir, If Islam was as violent as you vehemently put it, you and I would not be typing this very message as we speak.....

Grow up.

Deep

Free speech or racism?

You be the judge....

Most Muslims DO support war

even so called "British" Muslims (although no Muslim can be british or american) went to fight against Britain in Afganisthan. ended up in Guantanamo and have the bare faced cheek to demand to be released.

THEY SHOULD HAVE BEEN EXECUTED!!!

Popular opinion in many Islamic countries has been polled. eg In Syria, Iran, the Emirates - the majority of Muslims support terror gorups like Hamas/PLO and Bin Laden.

Muslims as a majority support terrorism and war!

I'm not one to lose my patience and let anger manifest through my hands and unto the keyboard, but you, sir, are an utter ignorant fool; i'll be glad to take a warning for that, i think it was well deserved.

Where in the world did you derive those polls from? Tell me something, if you were to ask majority of Muslims in India -- my mother land -- if they supported terrorism, i'am quite condifident, my good sir, that they would respond with a fecund laughter.

All Muslims are terrorists? Now, for your own sake, i do hope you know the difference between the many ISLAMIC SECTS: Sunni Muslims, Shi'ite Muslims , Sufi Muslims, Ahmaddis,, NOI, Ismailli, and many more; now tell me, which ones support terrorism?

This is a site to deny ignorange, to bath oneself in a sceptical and analytical matter all encompassing our visceral selves, not to label something we know very little about, EVIL.

Deep

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Free speech or racism?

You be the judge....

Neither. It's Ignorance.

Deep

Islam is as peacefull as Judiasm, it's mother, as it were

No. Jews do not believe Jesus was devinely inspired while Muslims believe Jesus was a prophet inspired by God. Judiasm is the mother of Islam like the Abacus is the mother of the Pentium 4. Very different. One is a poor fraud of the other used to expand the empire of one man.

Originally posted by KrazyIvan
well our socialist neighbors to the north should do something about it. if they wuss out ill be pissed!

Hey, I remember you... aren't you the guy who deplored in one thread that during WWII American soldiers had to wear condoms, because you could've improved the French's genetic stock?

As I said, the civilized talk here amazes me sometimes.

Ah yes, here it is... I knew my memory wasn't playing tricks on me.

Originally posted by KrazyIvan
damn i knew giving condoms to our liberating soldiers back then was a bad idea. we could im proved the french that way. get some people in there that dont drop a rifel at the drop of a declaration of war.

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No. Jews do not believe Jesus was devinely inspired while Muslims believe Jesus was a prophet inspired by God. Judiasm is the mother of Islam like the Abacus is the mother of the Pentium 4. Very different. One is a poor fraud of the other used to expand the empire of one man.

You have a hard time understanding simple analogies; both foster verses of utter genocide, both advocate the stoning of women, and both, in the hands of fanatics, lest we intice speculative enquiry, can reak havok on this earth.

I speak not of contextual theology.

Deep

Originally posted by LL1
Free speech or racism?

You be the judge....

pure racism

if i start posting anti semestic topics i will prob be flammed in 10sec or less

Bodrul that is an M1A1 Abrams MBT on your signature. Israel does not have any of the Abrams tanks. They never had that tank on its soil and most of their older foreign tanks are getting replaced by the Merkave Mark 3 and Mark 4.

Yes Zerodeep there are instances of Genocide in the talmud but they are not current commandments like they are in the Quran.

Yes Zerodeep there are instances of Genocide in the talmud but they are not current commandments like they are in the Quran.

Oh?

Granted, Islam is still a fairly new religion. It has not had the time to evolve as Judiasm did, maybe in time, it, too, will bar those verses of Genocide.

Deep

Originally posted by ZeroDeep
Oh?

Granted, Islam is still a fairly new religion. It has not had the time to evolve as Judiasm did, maybe in time, it, too, will bar those verses of Genocide.
Deep

Thats all nice and dandy but the U.S. doesn't plan on waiting for Islam to eventually figure out whats right from wrong. You should know as an Indian (not arabic) muslim that the verses of the Quran are considered holy and cannot be manipulated.

You, good sir, need to earn a proper education in Islam and all it's adherents before you try to articulate to the rest of the members how "violent" it is. Islam is as peacefull as Judiasm, it's mother, as it were; As Zionists kill for the return of thier messiah; as Christian fundamentalists kill those poor abortion doctors; as Islamic fanatics kill for reasons perpetuated and created by thier very enemy.

So then you believe that the 911 attack was justified. You did not even answer to what violence is going on RIGHT now. You say, 'Islamic fanatics,' and with your very words you agree with the murders they carry out, although you won't admit it. You just don't want to be labeled as a terrorist.

And I quote your words, "Islamic fanatics kill for reasons perpetuated and created by thier very enemy."

You agree with what they do, without voicing approval, as you don't have the balls to do what they have done - murder innocent people. So you believe in a religion that condones murder, but cover your ears and eyes when it happens, and say, 'Peace, peace, my brothers!'

Instead of answering to the violence you want to delve into the past and complain that Islam has not had enough time to evolve and compare the present violence with violence of other religions in the PAST to justify your dodging of reality.

On 911 we received our proper education of Islam. You are the one who needs to be educated.

Thats all nice and dandy but the U.S. doesn't plan on waiting for Islam to eventually figure out whats right from wrong. You should know as an Indian (not arabic) muslim that the verses of the Quran are considered holy and cannot be manipulated.

So then you believe that the 911 attack was justified. You did not evenanswer to what violence is going on RIGHT now. You say, 'Islamic fanatics,' and with your very words you agree with the murders they carry out, although you won't admit it. You just don't want to be labeled as a terrorist.

And I quote your words, "Islamic fanatics kill for reasons perpetuated and created by thier very enemy."

You agree with what they do, without voicing approval, as you don't have the balls to do what they have done - murder innocent people. So you believe in a religion that condones murder, but cover your ears and eyes when it happens, and say, 'Peace, peace, my brothers!'

Instead of answering to the violence you want to delve into the past and complain that Islam has not had enough time to evolve and compare the present violence with violence of other religions in the PAST to justify your dodging of reality.

On 911 we received our proper education of Islam. You are the one who needs to be educated

I'm not an Indian Muslim, where did you figure that ? I can twist and manipulate the Vedic and Buddhist teachings to justify murder and genocide.

You're twisting words; give me one reference that you saw me "JUSTIFY THE EVENTS OF 9/11". Like i stated before, America created its own enemy, that does not give you the presupposition that i support terrorism in any light. You, quite ignorantly, assuming that i'am a muslim, must also presume that i support the plight of my brethern in their battle; this is a logical fallacie perpetuated by your inability to compredend simple conotations.

Islam, as it were now in it's present form, is but a book of faith and repentence; Islam, as it were in it's present form, says to respect all man, not matter his creed; Islam, as it were in it's present form, has been raped, perverted, and molested by religious zealots to make thier own ends meet. This is paralell to many other faiths whom over the years have used scripture to justify just about anything; as Christians vehemently use the word of the Bible to condone homosexual partnerships; as Sikhs use the teachings of thier Guru's to justify thier plight of statehood in India; as Brahmins in India exploite ancient vedic teachings to opress coultless millions poverished under thier watch; and, as Jews use the Torah as a historical, and histrographical testement to thier claim of Gaza and the occupied lands.

9/11 DOES NOT SPEAK FOR EVERY SINGLE MUSLIM ON THIS PLANET. Remember something, sir, 9/11 occured after our freind Osama's plight to Americans to leave the Holy land, Mecca, which he believed was a Muslims priority to protect, and then of course, the subsequent parry of attacks. Tell me, as i have stated before many times, can you provide me conclusive proof that MAJORITY Muslims support terrorism ? Can you provide my conclusive proof that Islamic is a Puesdo-doctrine ? Have you ever read Islamic teachings ? Do you know the different sub-pars in Islam ?

I DO NOT SUPPORT WAR, NOR TERRORISM OF ANY KIND, PERIOD ! You,re putting words in my mouth.

Tell me, have you heard of the Aga Khan Foundation ? Let's get educated on pious mulsims, shall we.

www.akdn.org...

The Aga Khan Foundation is a non-denominational, international development agency established in 1967 by His Highness the Aga Khan. Its mission is to develop and promote creative solutions to problems that impede social development, primarily in Asia and East Africa. Created as a private, non-profit foundation under Swiss law, it has branches and independent affiliates in 15 countries. It is a modern vehicle for traditional philanthropy in the Ismaili Muslim community under the leadership of the Aga Khan

Deep

Originally posted by vincere7
Thats all nice and dandy but the U.S. doesn't plan on waiting for Islam to eventually figure out whats right from wrong.

Is that a threat?

Originally posted by vincere7On 911 we received our proper education of Islam. You are the one who needs to be educated.

Educated in what? In the wrath of the United States because of terrorists who happen to represent a minority of the entire Muslim world?

What I see is a Muslim trying to be a voice of moderation and show that Islam is not one-sided like some people want to make it to be.

As a guy who has gone to Africa into communities where Muslims worked together with Catholic and Protestant minorities to build a better life for all of the community, where when I asked Muslims what they thought of 9/11 they told me "These people were not Muslims"... as this guy I tell our friend here, Allahu Akbar!



[edit on 24-10-2004 by Otts]

deep - The U.S. was attacked by muslims, whether fanatic, peace loving, or deranged they were still muslims fighting for the cause of Islam. I quoted your words. You believe the muslims are justified for attacking the U.S. and murdering citizens.

You further mention the fact that Osama warned the U.S. to pull out of Saudi as a justification for attacks. You can't be on both sides. You either agree with the attacks or you don't.

Remember something, sir, 9/11 occured after our freind Osama's plight to Americans to leave the Holy land, Mecca, which he believed was a Muslims priority to protect, and then of course, the subsequent parry of attacks.

And.....

I DO NOT SUPPORT WAR, NOR TERRORISM OF ANY KIND, PERIOD ! You,re putting words in my mouth.

Maybe you should think about what you're typing before you write it.

And Otts

Originally posted by vincere7 On 911 we received our proper education of Islam. You are the one who needs to be educated.

Educated in what? In the wrath of the United States because of terrorists who happen to represent a minority of the entire Muslim world?

Thousands of people died by that attack. The U.S. went on the OFFENSIVE. Now thousands of muslims are dying. Islam was formed from the arabics. You can say whatever you wish about ' a voice of moderation,' and the NEW muslim way of thinking; it still does not change the Quran and what it teaches, and this still does not change the fact that the United States was attacked and we will fight back.

The 'small minority' as you put it was enough to kill alot of people and was enough to drive the russians out of Afghanistan. We know this and we are on the offensive. The U.S. does not condone muslim children to strap bombs to their bodies and slit throats on a plane you can thank the fanatic moms and dads. For such a minority they have got alot of financing and backing to carry out alot of terror across the globe.

As long as muslims want to proclaim jiihad we will proclaim liberation to your countries when we are attacked.

Why do people continue to issue blanket statements, and cover an
entire group of people for what a few do???
Wrongs are committed by individuals, not groups.

Generalization...
Who needs a broom for their sweeping statements?

Once again I will ask who/what are the government translators?