How Do 'They' Build Huge Underground Shelters for SHTF Without Us Knowing About It.

reply to post by Mandrakerealmz


Ok. Can you provide any links?

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This thing, Although I believe this is an older version.

Anyway semantics. I 100% agree they have been building bases. And I like your thoughts on them feeding us info on Denver so it directs us and keeps us from looking elsewhere as much.

They could build an undergorund bunker anywhere. Most people at too busy watching Honey Boo-Boo and salivating over the next iWhatever to notice anything.

Originally posted by davjan4
They could build an undergorund bunker anywhere. Most people at too busy watching Honey Boo-Boo and salivating over the next iWhatever to notice anything.

I agree in general terms but. There is always the Nosy, the Curios, the Local Kids, Local Government officious officers etc. Lots of people take an interest in new projects in their neighborhoods. It does not matter whether it is inner city or right out in the middle of no-where. In fact, country people are some of the worst. Small town syndrome.

You would need to hide it in plain site. Actually, a gravel pit would be perfect. You need lots and lots of gravel for all the concrete for the tunnel walls. I suggest it is in plain site. It would need to be active for years so normal construction would not be a viable excuse.

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Edit. What is a Honey Boo Boo?

Link to the Gothard Base tunnel

Im confused. We DO know about them and have for a long while. We've seen the YouTubes and Underground Tunnels and Bases links for years.

So, how do you think we dont know it? You did...I did...ATS'rs do...YouTubers have watched the vids...so?

Just one of many, many available sites....
www.burlingtonnews.net...

I think this idea is neither hard to do, nor hard to keep from anyone. Borrowing your idea, lots of mining operations just pull material out of the ground, and processed else where. The majority of which pretty much looks like rock anyways. You could tell guys you're looking for "Insert blank" Those with mining experience would assume we haven't found it yet, those with out wouldn't know if they were digging rock or Ore anyhow. Tons of material moves out, no questions asked.

After you get your Hole, tunnels, yadda yadda, you bring in a new crew with the intent of making Storage facilities for military weapons, nuclear or other hazardous wastes, a dump blah blah blah. Not to many people question things if they are getting paid and they don't seem like much.

Until you start getting to the " Finishing stages " Few people question the boss. IT only get's hard to keep it quiet when a tunnel that's got walls is being fitted with plumbing, water, electricity and MASSIVE Blast doors. Until that point it's just a hole or tunnel. Hell, you can tell everyone who works on the project it's a mining facility. The explanation Stays the same.

The reason I think it wouldn't be hard to do any of this, is for the most part when we're driving down the street and see construction vehicles, we don't usually think much of it. Unless it's affecting traffic it's just random back ground imagery. I suppose once the structure starts, and nears completion we go " I wonder what they are building there, " but do we dig into every piece of information we can find about a construction site?

I think it would be even easier if the location of construction is off the beaten track. I always think " Man's that's a great place to hide a under ground bunker, when ever I see Big Green house buildings, Farms, water treatment facilities( The types with large silo looking structures. HUGE Cylindrical buildings only a couple stories high but Several hundred feet in diameter. There could be ENORMOUS construction going on inside the building and you would never know, and NEVER question it.

Similar reason I think Farms, Greenhouse areas would be easy too. From the road a green house doesn't look like much. You can't really tell what's inside, and really most of us don't care. There could be anything going on inside, and dirt, piping and vehicles don't surprise us near these places, they grow food. All of the Above doesn't even begin to look out of the norm. Farm land is even better. Given some farms are freaking huge, with very little access to the property. There could be government crops on the outskirts near the road. Say Corn. Regular everyday site for a good lot of us. Yet in the middle of Hectares of land they are digging out an area to build a bunker.

I'm always bothered when people assume All of these Secret bunkers are enormous. I mean some of them very well could be, but i think it would be less likely for really massive underground structures to be built today with out some sort of cover. It would take too long, and with everyone and their dogs owning cameraphones it's hard to get away from the public view. We put # that's completely ordinary online and claim it's extraordinary all the time.

I do think how ever the OP is spot on with the assessment Mines would be the easiest place to construct such a place. You wouldn't even question it if you worked there. Those in the know would know what, why and how they are doing things. The employee just operates the machinery and moves along. He may say he works out in a mine in " Such a such" but it's not like too many mines last forever, or even take off. Some mines have been open for many many years, others start digging and find out the material is no good, too risky or expensive to extract or aren't capable of producing enough profit and are left as they are. I think this would be the simplest form of cover. Miners dig holes, don't ask questions.

So.... OP.... I was kind of wondering... Maybe we could go dig a tunnel sometime ha ha

reply to post by Glinda


Try googling Iron Mountain. It is totally obfuscated by the company called Iron Mountain that seems to be world wide and does document shredding and high security storage, and the main base of which is IN the old limestone mine inside Iron Mountain.

You can get some info on the mine by googling 'iron mountain limestone mine'

An NBC News segment on the Iron Mountain storage facility at Boyers, Pennsylvania. Iron Mountain is a high-security storage facility in a former limestone mine at Boyers, Pennsylvania near the city of Butler in the USA. It has been in operation since 1951. It is here that Bill Gates stores his Corbis photographic collection in a refrigerated cave 220 feet (67 m) underground.

One huge underground shelter as well?.....

Originally posted by pheonix358
Ok folks. Great with the new tech. Just remember if you bore it, you have to move the rubble out and you have to reinforce the tunnel walls with mesh and concrete. This will slow the process quite a bit. If you turn it to vapor, you have to do something with the vapor. It is still matter and there would still be a lot of it.

As for setting of Nukes, I don't think so. This is banned and seismology equipment world wide would pinpoint exactly what you are doing.

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From the link above yours

the present invention uses the combination of a refractory rock-melting tool, an in situ heat source preferably a small nuclear reactor and an exceedingly efficient heat transfer mechanism such as a system of heat pipes to convey heat from the source to the walls of the drilling tool.

Bingo, tunnel lining all sorted in one go and SILENT pretty much. Melt the rock and allow it to re-solidify. The 'extra' material not wanted could be removed as small lumps easily transportable or even stored in any disused shafts if this starts off in a mine.

ETA: Apologies to Mandrakerealmz. I was reading in sequence when I replied and did not see you have covered this.

I am afraid I have to be out today but I shall get together some details tonight and post them. I am thinking particularly along the lines of connections between Area 51 and Denver airport. That would make sense I think so I will start on that area.

Laters!

Originally posted by pheonix358
Well the missing Pentagon money comes to mind

Actually, no money was missing from the Pentagon....

as does the missing gold from the world trade center

What missing money from the WTC? It was all recovered...

Area 51 is full of underground facilities that we know absolutely nothing about.

How do you know there are any underground facilities at Area 51?

Originally posted by captaintyinknots
Nuclear subterranean drill. Check em out.
www.wanttoknow.info...

Patented and everything.

You still have to dispose of all of the material....

They built the huge underground bunker underneath the White House in front of everyones eyes. During the Bush administration any time they did a live remote from the White House you could see areas fenced off and machinery working. Was pretty obvious it was a new bunker. I think to answer your question the more it is done in front of your eyes so to speak the less noticeable it is. Sounds odd but think there is some truth to it.

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Oompa Loompas,

reply to post by pheonix358


This has been an interesting thread to read through...and I think your assesment of Denver Airport is especially interesting......hmmm?

Your absolutely right about "who" should be saved and why....just hope those greedy old "pricks" don't waste a spot for the survival of mankind......if it comes to that....any person with honor over 40 yrs. with no useful "skills" for future re-building of society should step aside...and if possible help from above ground to support the youth that should live.....

Anyways...lol...on that cheery note... Happy Thanksgiving...you think being able to make Pumpkin Rolls is a useful skill?

Originally posted by pheonix358

Originally posted by davjan4
They could build an undergorund bunker anywhere. Most people at too busy watching Honey Boo-Boo and salivating over the next iWhatever to notice anything.

I agree in general terms but. There is always the Nosy, the Curios, the Local Kids, Local Government officious officers etc. Lots of people take an interest in new projects in their neighborhoods. It does not matter whether it is inner city or right out in the middle of no-where. In fact, country people are some of the worst. Small town syndrome.

You would need to hide it in plain site. Actually, a gravel pit would be perfect. You need lots and lots of gravel for all the concrete for the tunnel walls. I suggest it is in plain site. It would need to be active for years so normal construction would not be a viable excuse.

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Edit. What is a Honey Boo Boo?

edit on 21/11/2012 by pheonix358 because: Q

Google it. Prepare to be disgusted.

reply to post by PuterMan


PM...I just "stopped by" the thread this am to post my (same) Google findings on Iron Mountain. Intriguing company to say the least.

But here is my "take" on very rich (like Bill Gates) storing their treasures deep in the earth. Who thinks that "they" only care of their "priceless collections" ? Wouldn't their first and foremost concerns be their own and their loved ones safety. Kind of validates the whe premise of the thread...and as the very powerful are used to support staff...wouldn't the promise of "we have a city but down there...in return for your work and secrecy you can save your family as well" be a mighty strong promise to keep the work going on?

The general population (us) may never learn of what is actually being prepared for...but I don't think our imaginings are that far off.

There is supposedly one in NYC along the upper part of the east side high way built into the bed rock. They were building it since the late 70´s. There was allot of construction there any ways before that and even up to now.

With regular florescent hard hats and heavy machinery you wouldn't question, that's how.

Tunnel Boring Machines spread concrete as they go - Philip Schneider was a key developer and he was suicided.
There are never any rumors of how they are going to build a safe underground base for us common folk.
a project this ginormous would put thousands to work for a couple of generations.
these tunnels could be interconnected via a mag train (300+mph). - in my opinion there already is a series of interconnected mag train stations deep underground.
most every civilized country - except the u.s - has a safe underground haven for every man jack his wife and his kids.
in the u.s we just have a bunch of yellow collard criminals that want to protect their own worthless hide.

BTW a search on Deep Underground Military Base will net enough pages to keep any enthusiast busy for months.

UPDATE to post by PuterMan


The route from Area 51 to Denver International brings up no results at all, except what are probably underground test Around Area 51 which cease in 1992.

The area I looked at was this: