Neo, no...Morpheus should have known!!!

I was just thinking about the movie THE MATRIX. You know, as it progressed, it turned out that the one was actually just another form of control designed by the Architect in order "balance the equation". They should have seen this! I don't understand.

Ok, here's my point. You have these agents, Mr. Smith and the like, and they run all over hells half acre trying to kill these escapees...right? However, when one of them is awakened, what does the machine do? Well, they release them from the Matrix, remove all of their "plugs" only so that they can be plugged back in at the hands of the human race, flush them down a chute only to be picked up by their peers...it's OBVIOUS!! Honestly, otherwise, when someone awoke, they would just kill them there while they have them all plugged up. It simply has never made any logical sense to me that they couldn't see this. Anyone?

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This is why I can feel so smug about never having seen any Matrix movies (there were more than one, right?). I don't have to worry about the relative logicality of it. Sounds disturbing, though. I mean the large plot holes....

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The reason the machines flushed them down is because when people take Red Pill, it send abnormal frequencies to make the machine think that the person is dead, which means no body heat for the machine to use as power source.

The disposal leads to a plant that digest the dead to use as nutrients for the living, during that time is when the crew rescues the person.

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You should watch it, well the first anyway. It opens up new concepts and ideas.

Its a must see movie.

Originally posted by luciddream
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The reason the machines flushed them down is because when people take Red Pill, it send abnormal frequencies to make the machine think that the person is dead, which means no body heat for the machine to use as power source.

The disposal leads to a plant that digest the dead to use as nutrients for the living, during that time is when the crew rescues the person.

Great thought, but can't buy it. The big spider thing comes and examines him before removing his main "head plug". It couldn't tell if there was life function??? Seriously? Can't recognize heart beat? Breathing? Brain activity? If this were true we would have beaten the # outa them.

Originally posted by Ex_CT2
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This is why I can feel so smug about never having seen any Matrix movies (there were more than one, right?). I don't have to worry about the relative logicality of it. Sounds disturbing, though. I mean the large plot holes....

Brother...you're missing out. It's pretty awesome.

I have always thought that when humans unplug from the Matrix, the trip they go on right after should just mash their entire body. Their bodies would be like a bag a jelly from just hanging out in a tube their whole life. Then they get flushed out down a tube that is who knows how long. At the bottom they should look like a soggy sack of meat. Just a random thought lol.

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Red pill shutdowns everything and trace the signature of the person. SO pretty much the Red pill simulates a near death experience, maybe really lowered heartbeat and brain activity.

I guess the machine or the caretaker would have certain SoP they need to follow to estimate whether a target is living or not by looking at limits (no heart beat for 1 min = must be dead) etc.

blue pill = york rite red pill = scottish rite . we are feeding the machine the battery joke is no joke

Originally posted by luciddream
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Red pill shutdowns everything and trace the signature of the person. SO pretty much the Red pill simulates a near death experience, maybe really lowered heartbeat and brain activity.

I guess the machine or the caretaker would have certain SoP they need to follow to estimate whether a target is living or not by looking at limits (no heart beat for 1 min = must be dead) etc.

I agree, this is one of the things I loved about the Matrix. Everything does have an answer in that movie aslong ass you're willing to put in the brain work. It's why I watched it over 100 times (back in the day).
Can't say the same for the sequals though.

Originally posted by Chukkles

Originally posted by luciddream
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Red pill shutdowns everything and trace the signature of the person. SO pretty much the Red pill simulates a near death experience, maybe really lowered heartbeat and brain activity.

I guess the machine or the caretaker would have certain SoP they need to follow to estimate whether a target is living or not by looking at limits (no heart beat for 1 min = must be dead) etc.

I agree, this is one of the things I loved about the Matrix. Everything does have an answer in that movie aslong ass you're willing to put in the brain work. It's why I watched it over 100 times (back in the day).
Can't say the same for the sequals though.

Yeah, gotta admit, I've watched it a time or two as well. But, if you watch the sequals, you find that it was all a control mechanism of the machines. I'm just saying that they should have realized this. I saw it. I don't know, does anyone understand what I'm saying?

Originally posted by BBobb

Originally posted by Chukkles

Originally posted by luciddream
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Red pill shutdowns everything and trace the signature of the person. SO pretty much the Red pill simulates a near death experience, maybe really lowered heartbeat and brain activity.

I guess the machine or the caretaker would have certain SoP they need to follow to estimate whether a target is living or not by looking at limits (no heart beat for 1 min = must be dead) etc.

I agree, this is one of the things I loved about the Matrix. Everything does have an answer in that movie aslong ass you're willing to put in the brain work. It's why I watched it over 100 times (back in the day).
Can't say the same for the sequals though.

Yeah, gotta admit, I've watched it a time or two as well. But, if you watch the sequals, you find that it was all a control mechanism of the machines. I'm just saying that they should have realized this. I saw it. I don't know, does anyone understand what I'm saying?

Yeah, Neo was a choice the programming made to facilitate the humans false hope.

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I think he was more of a probability. If it was 100% true there would be no point. The machines had to be given a fighting chance as well.

So the machine fought without giving up is because, they probably ran simulations with the " the one" and they found out that his success is not 100% and they had a chance?

And Of course, the movie ends with "the one" becoming the victor.