which is the most corrupt country

Originally posted by Otts
I think this is a thread that could lead to more hate, because we're entering in a game of comparisons where everything that's happened elsewhere on the board will happen again here. Some people will bash on France, making the French posters angry.

Otts,

I agree with you 100%. Corruption is found in all governments, even France and the U.S. I will have to say that "The Most Corrupt Nation on Earth Award" has got go to China!

Their civil-rights record is the epitome of all other corrupt governments. I really can't see how the U.S. or any other civilized nation can trade with China, knowing that they are the number one killer of babies in the world!

No where on Earth exists such a broad gap between the well-heeled and the dirt-poor as it does in China.

China has my vote!

Yes, we are all corrupt and specialised. Netherland is well known for drugs in Europ, France for the Free Massonery that sell weapons, USA with Skull and Bones who do the very same that Free massonery (FM and S'n B are daughter and represent the same famillies who has royal blood and the power over so many things they own), Italie for Berlusconi 's mafias, Afganistan for opium, Maroco for hashish, China for work of children, Australia for gold and diamons traffics, Canada (Qebec) for the traffic of bad singers and actors...

We are all as bad. The more corrupted contry is the world, I mean the rich and secret services like CIA, French secret services, Russia...

They work hand in hand till a long time!! Do you know about the club of the 300 who traffic drugs over the world? (Beatrix, Bush, Mitteran... are or were said to be of that club that sell and organize the traffic of coca�ne)

Canada. Definitely Canada.

Something wrong? Blame Canada. They're not even a real country anyway.

[edit on 25-10-2004 by DeltaChaos]

I was going to say that if you want corruption you should come to Mexico but saw the list and we are 63 of 133...so we are in the middle.

Makes me wonder, how low can you get?...

"just when you thought you were winning the RAT race....Along come FASTER RATS"

well the most currupt country will be the one with the most polititions in it now i'll let you let work that one out.

1. France
2. The French
3. La Francais

And a special mention to #

4. Jacques Chirac

Originally posted by crossfire
1. France
2. The French
3. La Francais

And a special mention to #

4. Jacques Chirac

hmm see a trend here anyone?

Originally posted by American Mad Man
My vote goes to Russia.

Any country where you can buy a nuclear submarine through the mafia has to take the cake!

(saw it on the history chanel)

Laughed my ass of with this ignorent comment!!!

You saw it on History Channel says it all!!! To find out you have to live in that country. And no Russia is not that corrupt. Why do you think mafia like Yeltsin and now most of them sit in jail? Look at Yukos! Yeltsin let him cheat and Putin put him in jail! Sorry but this ignorance pisses me really off!

Out,
Russian

After having studied Russian organized crime from a few sources, I don't have any doubt that that country is indeed on top of the corruption list.

Detailed motivation for my opinion would take a few pages, so I'll skip it for brevity. In essence, organized crime (in its most violent forms) took control of virtually all industry and banking. The seats in the Parliament are sold for $1M to $2M. The corruption is pervasive and self-perpetuating.

On a lesser scale, try the following exercise -- buy a trailer of produce in some neighboring agricultural area, such as Moldova. Then, try to truck it into the city of Moscow and sell it at one of the many local markets. I can promise you the brightest scenario would be the loss of your property. People who control that trade will (easily) make sure you don't sell a single apple, and the best you can hope for is getting rid of the produce at salvage prices. And don't count on the police.

That country is broken. We can speculate how the US is corrupt, or the French have the freemasons... Russia still tops them all by a long shot.



[edit on 25-10-2004 by Aelita]

[edit on 25-10-2004 by Aelita]

Originally posted by Aelita
After having studied Russian organized crime from a few sources, I don't have any doubt that that country is indeed on top of the corruption list.

Detailed motivation for my opinion would take a few pages, so I'll skip it for brevity. In essence, organized crime (in its most violent forms) took control of virtually all industry and banking. The seats in the Parliament are sold for $1M to $2M. The corruption is pervasive and self-perpetuating.

On a lesser scale, try the following exercise -- buy a trailer of produce in some neighboring agricultural area, such as Moldova. Then, try to truck it into the city of Moscow and sell it at one of the many local markets. I can promise you the brightest scenario would be the loss of your property. And don't count on the police.

That country is broken. We can speculate how the US is corrupt, or the French have the freemasons... Russia still tops them all by a long shot.



[edit on 25-10-2004 by Aelita]

Two questions...

Have you lived there? Or have you read this?

I think that answers my question...

Out,
Russian

Originally posted by Russian

Originally posted by Aelita
After having studied Russian organized crime from a few sources, I don't have any doubt that that country is indeed on top of the corruption list.

Detailed motivation for my opinion would take a few pages, so I'll skip it for brevity. In essence, organized crime (in its most violent forms) took control of virtually all industry and banking. The seats in the Parliament are sold for $1M to $2M. The corruption is pervasive and self-perpetuating.

On a lesser scale, try the following exercise -- buy a trailer of produce in some neighboring agricultural area, such as Moldova. Then, try to truck it into the city of Moscow and sell it at one of the many local markets. I can promise you the brightest scenario would be the loss of your property. And don't count on the police.

That country is broken. We can speculate how the US is corrupt, or the French have the freemasons... Russia still tops them all by a long shot.



[edit on 25-10-2004 by Aelita]

Two questions...

Have you lived there? Or have you read this?

I think that answers my question...

Out,
Russian

I have lived in that country for 27 years and still visit often. In fact, I just came back from Russia. I know many stories corraborating my point, from my father's business experience, and my friends'.

I hope that answers your question.

In addition, your juxtaposition of Eltsin vs Putin is moot. The former shooed-in the latter in power in exchange for immunity for his own crimes. Which makes the latter an accomplice.


Peace.




[edit on 25-10-2004 by Aelita]

[edit on 25-10-2004 by Aelita]

Stop the lieing. You dont even know who Yeltsin is. You put Eltsin. That just proves you have never been there and you dont know #. I lived there. I was born there. And i am there! cyka.

Out,
Russian

Originally posted by Aelita

Originally posted by Aelita
After having studied Russian organized crime from a few sources, I don't have any doubt that that country is indeed on top of the corruption list.

[edit on 25-10-2004 by Aelita]

I have lived in that country for 27 years and still visit often. In fact, I just came back from Russia. I know many stories corraborating my point, from my father's business experience, and my friends'.

I hope that answers your question.

In addition, your juxtaposition of Eltsin vs Putin is moot. The former shooed-in the latter in power in exchange for immunity for his own crimes. Which makes the latter an accomplice.


Peace.




[edit on 25-10-2004 by Aelita]

[edit on 25-10-2004 by Aelita]

I also love how you change on where you found this out. You sound like USA John Kerry to!

Out,
Russian

My guess is that one of the African countries, Burma, or maybe some South American. But that is only a guess so I cant say for sure. USA is not corrupt I think it is just that they like to bash each other.

Out,
Russian

Originally posted by Russian
Stop the lieing. You dont even know who Yeltsin is. You put Eltsin. That just proves you have never been there and you dont know #. I lived there. I was born there. And i am there! cyka.

Watch you language, kozel. I don't care how you spell Eltsin in English. As for you still being there, thanks for staying on your side of the Atlantic, and please continue being a servant (shesterka) for the mafia and such.

Forget it i dont talk to closed minded people. If you are from Russia then you are not Russian. Maybe a Uzbek or something. You are not welcome!

Out,
Russian

Originally posted by Russian
Forget it i dont talk to closed minded people. If you are from Russia then you are not Russian. Maybe a Uzbek or something. You are not welcome!

Read carefully what you just posted. You have a disdain for Uzbeks yet consider yourself open-minded? Pu-leeezee.

And I don't need your welcome here, dude.

Yes I'm 100% Russian, although that country has become such a cesspool lately that there is little reason to be proud of that designation, unfortunately.

People like Ivankov (Iaponchik) and other "vory v zakone" rule all of you. So be proud, fella. Tvoe mesto u parashi.

Originally posted by Aelita

Yes I'm 100% Russian, although that country has become such a cesspool lately that there is little reason to be proud of that designation, unfortunately.

you have not been to alloa in scotland thats very cessepoolish

People like Ivankov (Iaponchik) and other "vory v zakone" rule all of you. So be proud, fella. Tvoe mesto u parashi.

can i ask what this means or do i not want to?

[edit on 25-10-2004 by devilwasp]

Originally posted by devilwasp
can i ask what this means or do i not want to?

It's very idiomatic

"Vory v zakone" is slang, and means "bosses of the underworld" in plain English. The rest of the phrase is not informative

Interearthling - re China, I saw a pretty telling ad about the 2008 Olympic Games in Beijing. It denounces China's human rights and executions record. I have to find the video of it...

The ad opens on a Chinese marathon runner, feet in the starting blocks, concentrating... another Chinese guy, wearing a black suit, arrives with a gun to give the signal... raises his gun in the air... then lowers the gun to the runner's head.

Fade to black.

BANG.