Report: Hamas preparing chemical weapons

What a load of crap.
For 1, if hamas were preparing to use chemical weapons im pretty sure it wouldnt 'leak' out like this.

Also, what prep do you need? I assume the rockets would already be equiped, simply load onto truck, prepare at launch site and light fuse, its not like they are mixing it up!

Throw into the mix that Iraq, Syria were also '' preparing to use chem weapons '' and look how that went.

Typical, Jewish based media fear mongering!

reply to post by Agit8dChop


It depends on if they are warheads, as the articles claim, or if they were rockets. If they're warheads, then they have to be prepared, and loaded onto the rockets. If they're rockets, then yes, they would just have to aim and fire once they're loaded in the launcher.

Originally posted by Ben81
reply to post by ManBehindTheMask

 

why do you keep repeating yourself with the same bullock
that Netanyahu is barfing up each time he speak trying to convince the world
that the palestinian are bad people .. they dont have any army but they have a police militia
with rocket that are not guided and explode most of the time in open field doing no damage

and what does it have to do with my previous post concerning true jews
did you just copy past from somehwere

Israel keep violating so many resolution far more then anyone in the world
torture in prison .. dead squad .. missile strike with a bomb that cost a millions $
keep stealing palestinian land and if someone dare to launch a critic at them
they are labelled anti semetic and racist

"I used to be in the Israeli elite paratroopers, but after what I saw and was forced to do, I vowed that I would never go back to the Army and act as a tool for enslaving 3.5 million people in their own land without any basic human rights. As a soldier refusing to go to the reserve duty (I am a member of the Courage to Refuse group of IDF officers), I live with the constant threat of imprisonment." - Ronen Berelovich

The Zionist Story, an independent film by Ronen Berelovich, is the story of ethnic cleansing, colonialism and apartheid to produce a demographically Jewish State.

now imagine what the land look like for the yrs 2012
almost no more green spot .. after this new Gaza offensive 2012 war
all the green spot will be erradicated for good

This Genocide has to stop because THIS IS A GENOCIDE
but it wont stop because Israel REGIME keep spiting on any peace deal

edit on 11/18/2012 by Ben81 because: (no reason given)

Repeating myself with what BIBI has said? Excuse me what part of anything have I said that was even close to quoting bibi?

I directly asked you questions.........that are FACT, that you refuse to aknowledge and answer..........

Its fine.........Im use to it from people who spout all this nonsense and make accusations and then refuse to condemn worse actions made by their "people" of choice.........

You say Israel is spitting on peace, but they have REPEATEDLY tried to not only give land back, but reach peace agreements, only to have Hamas breach them by firing more rockets and CONTINUOUSLY send in suicide bombers.......

The defiance in the face of the atrocities commited by Hamas on the people of palestine, and the inability to not only condemn these acts, but THEN try to state moral high ground by trying to say that people who support palestine also support humanitarian efforts on their behalf is laughable........

If the people of palestine wanted peace, they would kick Hamas out on its ear........

If the people who support palestine really cared about its people, the they wouldnt make excuses for the things ive listed repeatedly in this thread......

I can post videos too...........and your map? lol I love how everyone likes to try and use that map, but you do know that map is disengenious dont you?

From another poster who put it better then I could

This is bogus map. It shows in white territory owned by Jews and in green territory not owned by Jews. Kind of forgetting that British empire was controlling the land and owned territory. Foreign states owned territory. Palestinian Arabs did not control all the green part.

Cnn is just so biased
just saw the news about the Gaza boy who was killed in a blast in his father arm
since Israel have denied it .. now they say that he was killed
because of a hamas rocket

im speechlessly shocked

reply to post by ManBehindTheMask


What ever you say mate
because what ever i say will never change your opinion
you have a job to do

reply to post by ManBehindTheMask


sorry my point eludes you so much I thought i was clear

... stop abusing their children ..... stop the occupying them , stop oppressing them ... stop taking their land ... stop belittling them...

what do you expect people to do when people this way .. ????

Originally posted by knightrider078
REPORT: HAMAS PREPARING CHEMICAL WEAPONS

www.breitbart.com...

Please tell me they are not that stupid to use Chemical Weapons.

edit on 18-11-2012 by Gemwolf because: Removed all caps title

It's probably been pointed out by now that the headline and the body of the story is at odds.

They may be? Really?

Just who the heck reported that Hamas was preparing chemical weapons? The IDF?

Or some guy standing over a vat yelling pass me some more napalm? Now I want to make sure they know we are in here, can somebody call the press?

Just how much of a simpleton do you have to be to not see through this propaganda that has been catapulted ahead of some serious assault that will be justified by the decimination of this half-a**ed article.

Remember seeing on TV that they can now tap wires into a cockroaches head and remote control where the cockroach walks?


A successful exercise was conducted where chickens/roosters walked straight thru a military installation checkpoint and if they had a grenade inside them could have nullified the entire facility. They also threw some over the fences and within 36 hours they had them at locations that could have neutralized every critical person / critical sites on the entire installation.

There's a reason the poor countries clinch to their chemical weapons, they know technologically they can be defeated pretty easy and chemical weapon use is their only line of defense.

Hamas could be beaten entirely with CHICKENS remotely controlled and a grenade up its keister.

Lucky for us the chickens are on our side....the muslims ain't figured out controlling animals to make THEM suicide bombers....our mad Nazi scientists did. REALLY....former Nazi's working in our defense labs.

I did some more digging into this, and reading more links, and the original leak about Libya selling Hamas and Hezbollah chemical weapons is from March/April of this year, but was leaked by Debka. I think now that this is all a set up by Mossad to prepare for something happening, whether it was this, or something else.

Source - quote is paywalled, however it's not far into the article, I'll quote from the start of the paywall until the last line dealing with the claim and 2 more


Elite Israeli troops scour Gaza for long-range rockets

As 20,000 soldiers prepare to invade, special forces are already at work — while Hamas lays lethal traps

Uzi Mahnaimi, Tel Aviv Hamada Hamada, Gaza Published: 18 November 2012

www.thesundaytimes.co.uk/sto/news/world_news/Middle_East/article1165097.ece

(...)

Most of its long-range Fajr-5 rockets, supplied by Iran, were said to have been destroyed on the first day of the Israeli campaign, but four were launched towards Tel Aviv, Israel's commercial and security hub, on Thursday and Friday.

Yesterday air raid sirens once again sent residents and holidaymakers scurrying from Tel Aviv's beaches and streets into shelters as two more rockets approached. One landed on open ground, the other was destroyed by Israel's Iron Dome anti-missile defence system.

While Israel has no evidence that any rockets have been fitted with chemical warheads, it says the missiles are capable of carrying them.

"Hamas might go for a desperate attempt to launch rockets with chemical warheads if the worst came to the worst," a defence source said.

The Israeli army said it had sealed off all main roads around Gaza and declared a closed military zone, a further sign that it is ready to launch the first ground offensive into Gaza since its incursion of 2008.

A junior minister indicated such an attack could come as early as this weekend unless Hamas stopped firing rockets. Sixty were fired yesterday but officials — who are mobilising 75,000 reservists — insisted no decision had yet been taken.

(...)

Originally posted by PaperbackWriter
Just how much of a simpleton do you have to be to not see through this propaganda that has been catapulted ahead of some serious assault that will be justified by the decimination of this half-a**ed article.

Without regard to the source if Israel had any real indications that Hamas had access to let alone were making the preparations to use chemical weapons the only thing we'd hear about would be the bloody smoking aftermath...

Israel would not hesitate to use unbridled force to reduce that threat to a smoking crater and would care less if they gained any international approval or consensus to do so.

I for one would not blame them...

Originally posted by Drunkenparrot



Which begs the question, shouldn't Hamas have been using the funding they have had to build infrastructure and feed their children ?

LoL guess that also applies to Israel as I do remember their protest on austerity measures . Instead of buy into infrastructure and feeding their kids they chose to spend the money to procure their nuclear arms and weaponry and the elitist life style ...

reply to post by Golf66


Hey, for sure, there are some people who think as you do.
There are others who think now why wasn't there an article in Breitbart warning the Palestinians the Israelis were
about to dump White Phosphorus on them?

Then some people might think, wow, white phosphorus, who could blame Hamas for turning Israel into a smolering rubble?

I am not one of those people.
But, trust me, there are a lot of people who think that shoes should be tried on both feet.

Here is a map of the land that God promised Abraham some 3000+ years ago. And yes, there were some peoples that dwelt in that land at the time.

www.christiannewstoday.com...

The Israelites were given very specific instructions on what to do with the people as they claimed the land that God promised them. These natives were exceedingly wicked in Gods eyes.

Long story short; they possessed the land, were disobedient to the covenant that God had made with Abraham, allowed some of the people that were supposed to be destroyed(Palestinians), and then finally kicked out of the promised land. They were dispersed among a ton of nations, and then 2000 years later God gathered them from those nations and made them a nation once again!

So this issue of Israelis being occupiers is BS.

As far as the fairness of the whole situation......you will have to take that up with the man upstairs at a latter date

Originally posted by PaperbackWriter
reply to post by Golf66

 

Hey, for sure, there are some people who think as you do.
There are others who think now why wasn't there an article in Breitbart warning the Palestinians the Israelis were
about to dump White Phosphorus on them?

Then some people might think, wow, white phosphorus, who could blame Hamas for turning Israel into a smolering rubble?

I am not one of those people.
But, trust me, there are a lot of people who think that shoes should be tried on both feet.

White Phosphorus is not a WMD...

It is a type of artillery (or mortar) round designed to create an instantaneous screen for covering movement and or serve as a marking round for adjusting fire as it is easily seen by forward observers.

I've used it for that very purpose.

It is also an excellent round to call for mixed in with HE rounds (both ground and air burst) for the destruction of flammable materials (fuel, ammunition, etc.) or light skinned vehicles or a compound with a lot of nets or tentage.

Yes, it is a "chemical compound" of course but not a chemical weapon in the strictest sense as it is not intended for use against personnel.

It is used to destroy flamable items and structures; however, if people happen to be around those items of course they will die a horrible death. Collateral damage as it is termed.

reply to post by Golf66


If Hamas used White Phosphorus, all that legal speak would be thrown out the window.

If that is so, in future propaganda , please don't quote anymore from so called humanitarian groups...

Human Rights Watch, from 2008-2009 Cast Lead

www.hrw.org/node/81760

Rain of Fire

Israel’s Unlawful Use of White Phosphorus in Gaza

March 25, 2009

This 71-page report provides witness accounts of the devastating effects that white phosphorus munitions had on civilians and civilian property in Gaza. Human Rights Watch researchers in Gaza immediately after hostilities ended found spent shells, canister liners, and dozens of burnt felt wedges containing white phosphorus on city streets, apartment roofs, residential courtyards, and at a United Nations school. The report also presents ballistics evidence, photographs, and satellite imagery, as well as documents from the Israeli military and government.

Read the Press Release

Read the Report

ISBN: 1-56432-460-5

Related Materials Legacy Links:

Video - Rain of Fire: White Phosphorus in Gaza
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Download report (PDF, 5.94 MB)
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Purchase a printed copy of this report

Rain of Fire
I. Summary
II. Recommendations
III. What is White Phosphorus?
IV. White Phosphorus Attacks in Populated Areas
V. Israel's Shifting Statements on White Phosphorus
VI. Legal Standards
Acknowledgements
Appendices

Originally posted by wujotvowujotvowujotvo
If Hamas used White Phosphorus, all that legal speak would be thrown out the window.

I think you might be confused - regardless of who fires the round WP is not a "chemical weapon". Sorry.

Originally posted by wujotvowujotvowujotvo
If that is so, in future propaganda , please don't quote anymore from so called humanitarian groups...

You have lost me here...I didn't "quote" anyone or cite a source at all other than my personal knowledge as a career Special Forces Officer.

Human Rights Watch has an anti-war agenda - period. Regardless of how they spin it WP is not a "chemical weapon". It is not intended for use against personnel. It is used to screen, assist in adjusting fire, or to specifically destroy flammables.

If people are injured or killed it is collateral damage resultant from its use in the aforementioned manner. If Hamas was so concerned about protecting the citizens of Gaza they would not intentionally fire from or near residential areas. They are the ones who are endangering the people of the area. The people make their own bed when they harbor and protect them and hide them in their homes.

Pro-tip if you don't want to die a most horrible death don't invite terrorists into your home.

Really pretty simple.

TPTB have been funding and playing sides against each other for centuries. You're witnessing, first-hand and in an utterly perfect example, 3 dimensional chess, ladies and gentlemen. Try reading Zbigniew Brzezinski and/or Carroll Quigley sometime, you might learn a thing or two about geopolitics

Just please stop supporting Israel or Palestine. It's all a big joke. And above you or mines paygrade. Personally, I care about kicking the agenda 21 globalists out of america and getting us entirely out of the UN. The rest of the world can tear itself apart for all I care

I want my guns and my first amendment rights which are constantly under attack

Originally posted by Wrabbit2000
I vote this is B.S. and Breitbart needs to stop swallowing every little fish that floats by in the news stream. Half of them are little red herrings.

It's not that I don't think Hamas is capable of it..I'm sure they are. It's not that I don't think they could make it. Hell, I could make Sarin in my bathroom....if killing myself wasn't a problem. lol... It's not a technical difficulty, especially when they now have friends in Nation-State positions that have all the resources imaginable within places like Libya and Egypt.

I call B.S. on this because Hamas cannot possibly be THAT terminally stupid. The first Chem warhead to be confirmed would be the absolute end of Hamas and to the last breathing human being known to exist within that organization. I don't believe Israel would go homicidal as Hamas may hope and blindly level Gaza if they got some nasty goop dropped into Tel Aviv. I DO think they'd make the Black September hunt after Munich look like nothing more than a tactical exercise and training event. Nowhere on Earth would be safe for a single member of Hamas after that.

Look at the bright side though.. If Hamas slimed Israel, Israel eradicates Hamas like a roach infestation....and the Palestinian Authority (generally the level headed and reasonable of the bunch anyway) can take over full administration of Gaza as well as the West Bank. LONG term might even see benefits. I'd just never hope to see it come by way of chemical warfare into civilian populations.

..haveing read at that site noy beleiveing there biases racist vile agenda in there reporting an comments re the Trayvon Martin shooting....However I will say this and or if you dont beleive me .Whilst at that breitbart site I STARTED TO READ A FEW OF THE POLITICAL ARTICLES AS WELL.mAINLY ABOUT THE ATTACK IN Libya Banghazi an Murder of cosul an consulate officials.There was zilch in the m s m about all the conspiricy theores ect an how it was being hidden from public down played in run up to election.An as its starting to come to light all the stuff manic conspircy theorys are being verified to a great extent...Now if this chemical rocket stuff is true it wont be launched by Palistines but tne I D L will self inflict chem attacks for show in a false flag operation giveing them the opetunity to nuke some paastinan target with a show of iron will .An to strike fear into Iran an new Eygypt Libya any Arab spring countrys thinking of ganging up on Isreal .WWThere answer forget Arabian Spring we shall deliver a Jewish Nuclears ho;loucost if you even attempt to shove us of the map/planet/land.

reply to post by JustToSatisfyYou


You know, you make a very good point and it brings me up a bit short. This is one HUGE crisis..media wise and attention grabbing. Going by history of the recent past, perhaps we should be looking hard at what else is being talked about, decided or worked out by Government(s) during this period where almost nothing will get coverage above the main event here.

Interesting to consider....and I hadn't really thought about it until your message there but this would be the perfect time for nasty things to slip right on past and no one is likely to catch it. Hmmm...

@Ecossie

The Israeli Defense Force is a draft based military/compulsory service. Just who among them would be firing Chem weapons into their own people? I mean they'd have a mutiny on the spot if even a whisper of a rumor broke of such a thing actually happening. There is a lot of things I'll give a government credit for being capable of. Using NBC weapons on it's own people for some hidden agenda? Well...We've only seen chem weapons used a few times since World War I. They were really stand out cases of near evil brutality. I don't see that happening. One enemy upon another? Perhaps and it takes a certain kind at that. On their own people tho? I just don't see it.

Originally posted by freedomSlave

Originally posted by ZeroKnowledge

Originally posted by blaenau2000
The Palestines have no army, no food, no help, no land, there people kids getting killed right now by rockets and planes and you come here and call them terrorists ? Fantastic !

Hamas has an army. Food is been brought into Gaza. Israel withdrew from Gaza years ago. Hamas does not care about kids, it wants to fight Israel. It actually declared that it is in state of war with Israel.

And your people don't care about the Palestine kids . maybe you haven't noticed how small the region is in gaza ( oddly seeing how you live in israel ) where are the women and children to hide?? Especially with the reckless bombing your county is doing . you people are sick and make me sick wtf is wrong with you

No! hamas doesnt care about Palestinian kids or they wouldn't be hiding behind them. There the ones who declared this little war and if they use chemical weapons (dont think they will) you can forget about a truce.