Christians, make no mistake, Israel would do this to you too.

Originally posted by Lazarus Short
reply to post by Humanity4Ever

 

My understanding may have been in error, but something is still rotten in Denmark.

Yes, the rotten thing is how you made the statement without any thought to actually check it first. Deny ignorance means checking what you say before you say it - you didn't. Don't worry, you aren't alone. ATS has many closeted racists, homophobes and people who will pure hate people for not being a facsimile of themselves even though they don't realise their own faults. Try not to be one of them, it's not that hard if you are prepared to think and not follow the herd - something many on ATS accuse other people of while blindly following their own agenda.

reply to post by Lazarus Short


from what.... someone having an issue with being attacked..

So just so I understand what your saying... someone breaks into your house and you defend yourself the attacker has a right to defend themselves?


As for your later post, I am not anti-Islamic I am pro-Pagan

Most of the pro muslim stuff sounds like complaints about Karma running over Dogma

Originally posted by ripcontrol
reply to post by Lazarus Short

 

Most of the pro muslim stuff sounds like complaints about Karma running over Dogma

Pretty sure it is usually the dogma being run over by the karma.

It sickens me how many Christians are fooled into believing that these are God's people. No, khazars and Ashkani jews have almost no DNA consistent with the 12 tribes. In fact, it is the Paelstinians that have been found to have similar DNA. These Christians also forget "thou shall not kill". Israel has lost a total of 3 people as a result of these rocket attacks, the palestinians have lost hundreds, including dozens of children.

And yet my country, the USA, continues to provided more economic support for Israel than all of our other foreign aid to other countries combined. Why? We all know the answer: America is run by the neo-cons and the Jews (who also own the media) who if they are biblical, seem a lot more like the "fallen angels" than the chosen people. Here's hoping that humans realize that murder is not justified, even as a product of the promulgated condition of war.

reply to post by DeadSeraph


Your post regarding the DNA of Israelis is incorrect. Other than the hassidics, most jews now in Israel share no DNA with the ancient tribes of Israel. Please post where you get your info from regarding the connections between today's Israelis and the 12 tribes because its simply not true.

Originally posted by something wicked

Originally posted by Lazarus Short
reply to post by Humanity4Ever

 

My understanding may have been in error, but something is still rotten in Denmark.

Yes, the rotten thing is how you made the statement without any thought to actually check it first. Deny ignorance means checking what you say before you say it - you didn't. Don't worry, you aren't alone. ATS has many closeted racists, homophobes and people who will pure hate people for not being a facsimile of themselves even though they don't realise their own faults. Try not to be one of them, it's not that hard if you are prepared to think and not follow the herd - something many on ATS accuse other people of while blindly following their own agenda.

No, the rotten thing is that you assume too much about me based on one post containing information I was told was factual. My source was obviously biased or misinformed. I, for one, am glad to stand corrected. Facts are facts. Let's step off our soap boxes, OK?

Originally posted by ripcontrol
reply to post by Lazarus Short

 

from what.... someone having an issue with being attacked..

So just so I understand what your saying... someone breaks into your house and you defend yourself the attacker has a right to defend themselves?


As for your later post, I am not anti-Islamic I am pro-Pagan

Most of the pro muslim stuff sounds like complaints about Karma running over Dogma

Perhaps an attacker does not have the right, but you can be sure he will defend himself if he can. The issues and backgrounds governing events in the Middle East are far more complex than these [he said/she said] threads can ever explicate...

reply to post by WhiteHat

If I remember correctly, the main holy places of christianity, the Church of Nativity and Church of the Holy Sepulchre are well within the borders of Israel, in their holy city, and millions of christians are happily doing pilgrimage at these places year after year without any problems whatsoever. Unlike their neighbours, Israel never attempted to knock them down or to "expand" there.

Allow me refresh your memory just a little bit.

Perhaps the worst outbreak of organized desecration of Christian institutions came on Sept. 10, 1963, when hundreds of ultra-orthodox Jews simultaneously attacked Christian missions in Jaffa, Haifa and Jerusalem. (One has to say “perhaps because reporting on this sensitive subject in the U.S. media has been so poor over the decades.) At any rate, the attacks were a concerted effort to intimidate Christians in Israel by a religious vigilante group called Hever Peelei Hamahane Hatorati, the Society of Activists of the Torah Camp. In an attack on the Church of Scotland school in Jaffa, Christian children were beaten and considerable damage was caused to the school by at least 200 rampaging Jews.

Other attacks occurred at two nearby church schools, the Greek Catholic missionary school of St. Joseph and a Christian Brothers school. In Jerusalem, attacks occurred at the St. Joseph convent and the Finnish Lutheran mission school. In Haifa, the American-European Beth El Messianic Mission Children’s Hostel and School was attacked. No serious damage occurred in any of the attacks except at the Scotland school. More than 100 Jews were convicted in the attacks, none of them receiving more than small fines and suspended sentences.

The first half of the 1980s, with Likud governments in control, was a particularly active period for Jewish bigots. On Oct. 8, 1982, the Baptist Church in Jerusalem was burned down. Kerosene had been sprinkled on the church’s wooden chapel, constructed in 1933. Although no one was ever charged in the arson, the Baptist Center’s bookstore had been vandalized a dozen times in previous years, and Jews were suspected. When the Baptists sought to rebuild the church, Jews demonstrated against the project and the Jewish district planning commission refused to grant a building permit. In 1985, the Israeli Supreme Court advised the Baptists to leave the all-Jewish area.
Christians Discriminated Against by Israel
By Donald Neff
Former Israel Bureau Chief for Time Magazine
Excerpted from Fifty Years of Israel

Originally posted by phillyhemp
reply to post by DeadSeraph

 

Your post regarding the DNA of Israelis is incorrect. Other than the hassidics, most jews now in Israel share no DNA with the ancient tribes of Israel. Please post where you get your info from regarding the connections between today's Israelis and the 12 tribes because its simply not true.

He is probably posting old information from old research. New research, not done in Israel (hint, hint) contradicts the Jews-are-Judah position. History and genetics are both far more complex than misguided theology. Remember that theology absorbs twenty-seven times it weight in excess reality.

reply to post by Fromabove

The Philistinians bring all their sorrow upon themselves.

I must have missed the part where the Palestinians asked for a bunch of European immigrants to come drive them off their land. Just what history book must I read to find that bit of info?

Can we all agree that Israel is taking this too far now? 104 confirmed Palestinian deaths to 3 Israelis. I understand that Israel must defend itself but when did the defense turn into offense? The Israelis obviously have better weaponry and aim, but this is starting to look like overkill now.

reply to post by pthena

Thank you for refreshing my memory.
Anyway, to be completely honest, the same article should have mentioned that the same extremist jews are attacking anyone and anything that is different, christians and jews alike. They are the same people who still don't recognize the state of Israel but are living from Israel's money, the same that killed Itzhak Rabin, the same that put women in the back of the bus, as unworthy to sit next to a man. They are not Israel more than KKK is US.

Better yet than internet twisted opinions, ask anyone who ever visited Jerusalem. Christianity and their holy churches are doing fine over there.
Christian Sites

Originally posted by phillyhemp
reply to post by DeadSeraph

 

Your post regarding the DNA of Israelis is incorrect. Other than the hassidics, most jews now in Israel share no DNA with the ancient tribes of Israel. Please post where you get your info from regarding the connections between today's Israelis and the 12 tribes because its simply not true.

www.jogg.info...

A google search pointed me there, but the reason I've come to this conclusion is from reading books, articles, etc about the subject. If I'm mistaken, please provide some scientifically credible material for me to read.

Originally posted by ltheghost
Can we all agree that Israel is taking this too far now? 104 confirmed Palestinian deaths to 3 Israelis. I understand that Israel must defend itself but when did the defense turn into offense?

Since it became the best defence.

The Israelis obviously have better weaponry and aim, but this is starting to look like overkill now.

as long as Hamas keep firing the occasinoal rocket into Israel they are providing the perfect excuse.

"Overkill" - killing the other guy without taking any (or only a few) casualties yourself ? Job well done!

Don't want to be on the receiving end of an overkill? Don't start a fight with someone you know is goingto do it to you!!

Originally posted by pthena
reply to post by Fromabove

The Philistinians bring all their sorrow upon themselves.

I must have missed the part where the Palestinians asked for a bunch of European immigrants to come drive them off their land. Just what history book must I read to find that bit of info?

I must haev missed the bit where that happened too.

I have read about a bunch of European Jews buying land from Palestinians in the 1920's, and a bunch of Palestinians trying to destroy those Jews in the 1930's and 1940's tho' - is that what you meant?

reply to post by WhiteHat

Better yet than internet twisted opinions, ask anyone who ever visited Jerusalem. Christianity and their holy churches are doing fine over there.

Rather than taking the word of an Israeli guided tour company, you might want to listen to actual Palestinian Christians.

In this historic document, we Palestinian Christians declare that the military occupation
of our land is a sin against God and humanity, and that any theology that legitimizes the
occupation is far from Christian teachings because true Christian theology is a theology
of love and solidarity with the oppressed, a call to justice and equality among peoples.
KAIROS PALESTINE 2009

What really tics me off about this thread is its appeal for Christians to take issue with Jews. I don't care anymore. You guys act like the genetics mean something to us. Or the brutality. Or any of it.

You know what spending almost 10 years for almost every breathing moment researching the occult, NWO, false flags, aliens, real history of mankind, human nature, the human condition, ego, military posturing, geopolitical reality of the world, all religions, myths, and everything else I did not mention brings besides instances of slight insanity?

Enlightenment when you realize the pattern and smallness of it all. That in the end it is really all relative. That all the issues you find wrong with the world are temporary and the solutions you come up with are permanent.
It is all permanent solutions to temporary problems that will go away eventually and give way to the next.

It doesn't matter what state the world is in. It really shouldn't matter to youpersonally. Your personal life should. I don't give a flying F if Israel nukes Iran, Palestine, Russia, China and the rest of the world. In the end it is just humanities problem. Asking people to hate others so you somehow fell vindicated in causing people you hate grief by adding enemies to the tally is just retarded.

The arrogance of.people out to save this or that is just mind boggling. We have been on this world for less than a few seconds if you were to look at all its history up to now as.a 24 hour clock.

We are not even an important blip on that time line.
Get over your hate and bile and make.due with your time here. Seek enlightenment, faith not hope, love not just trust, honesty not just manners.

Life is a F-ing miracle. Stop with the Israeli or Palestinian, or Iranian, or Tibetan or what ever causes. Be kind to eachother, accept your flaws and don't worry about the nonsense that you can do nothing about. While you are being pricks to Jews because of some retarded thing about their genetics,or history or what ever, you are missing out on learning from an ancient people that are no different than any other.

I don't care if there are bad Jews out there, just like normal sane Jews don't care if there are retards like the OP that are out to create enemies for them.

While all you people are getting your panties in a twist the rest of us are making progress personally and spiritually to make the most of our time here. I can sit down and have a conversation with God or the devil. That's just me. I am not scared or intimidated by anyone because I know human nature, and all BS aside, we are the same damn thing. No one is really special or different really. A human is a human is a human.

Mortals fear and hate out of that fear. I choose to accept that and can love all you retards, my retarded ass included. We are stuck with eachother.

I am in no rush for us to figure it all out and everyone anyone is killing was mortal anyways. In the mean time I will live a happy life as best I can and leave the BS to the expert BS artists that enjoy rallying people to their endless causes.

When you grow tired and bored of this crap join us in the VIP section of humanity where happiness is not an illusion and hope is a dirty word.

ZED

reply to post by zedVSzardoz

Be kind to each other, accept your flaws and don't worry about the nonsense that you can do nothing about.

Like you said, the world is very small, so the "others" are everyone in the world, and we can do something about it, such as just talking about it, that has power, whether you want to believe that or not.

reply to post by zedVSzardoz


Hear hear.