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There is no such thing as a sin.
Originally posted by Jeremiah65
I have avoided this thread because I knew it was going to be full of ignorance, spite, hate and intolerance.
Originally posted by madenusa
When did God predict all this would happen in America?
Originally posted by madenusa
Nothing is ever mentioned about Americans in the Bible and Koran."
"Tell them to read Jeremiah 51:8-15. He named it THE MYSTERY BABYLON, THE GREAT ADULTERESS. Also read Revelations Chapter 18, the whole chapter. There it says clearly what will happen to America."
Dumitru Duduman's Vision of America's Red Dawn
www.watchmanreport.com...
“Tell everyone to read from Jeremiah 51:8-15, Revelation chapter 18, and Zechariah chapter 14,
where Christ fights against those who possess the earth.
heavenawaits.wordpress.com...
Originally posted by NoJoker13
reply to post by truejew
Far as I know he didn't address his post to you, he just said what he 'expected' to find here. But you know some people think when someone says 'EVERYONE' that their just talking about them, they call those people sociopaths. An also this thread is full of what he said it was, again he never said you specifically or said 'EVERYONE' was at fault for it.edit on 24-11-2012 by NoJoker13 because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by GafferUK1981
But that could apply to America, china, Russia, Canada, Britain etc..
“Surely the Lord God will do nothing, but he revealeth His secret unto His servants the prophets. The lion hath roared, who will not fear? The Lord God hath spoken, who can but prophesy?” ‘AMOS 3:7-8
I got beside the angel. He showed me all of California. He showed me all the cities of California. Then he showed me Las Vegas. "You see what I have shown you. This is Sodom and Gomorrah. In one day it will burn." He said, "Its sin has reached the Holy One."
He showed me another great city. He said, "Do you know what city this is?"
I said, "No."
He said, "This is New York City. This is Sodom and Gomorrah. In one day it will burn."
He showed me Florida. He said, "This is Florida. This is Sodom and Gomorrah. In one day it will burn."
He didn't let me say a word until he brought me back to the place we had left. He said, "Now, Dumitru, you can talk to me."
He said, "I brought you to this country, Dumitru. I want to wake up a lot of people. I love this country. I love the people. I want to save them. America will burn."
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The proof that this message is from God: The thirteen prophecies foretold by the angel Gabriel to Dumitru actually came to pass.
standeyo.com...
Originally posted by buster2010
How can America be under the judgment of something that has yet been proven to exist? It's funny how people say there are no aliens but believe in God with the same amount of proof.
Reformation Papacy
The institution of the papacy underwent attacks by many Protestant reformers, including Martin Luther (Pope Leo X was the pope who planned the initial church reaction against Luther until his death in 1521), John Calvin, Thomas Cranmer, John Knox, Cotton Mather, and John Wesley, identified the Roman Papacy as the Antichrist.[citation needed] The Centuriators of Magdeburg, a group of Lutheran scholars in Magdeburg headed by Matthias Flacius, wrote the 12-volume "Magdeburg Centuries" to discredit the papacy and identify the pope as the Antichrist. The fifth round of talks in the Lutheran-Roman Catholic dialogue notes,
In calling the pope the "antichrist," the early Lutherans stood in a tradition that reached back into the eleventh century. Not only dissidents and heretics but even saints had called the bishop of Rome the "antichrist" when they wished to castigate his abuse of power.[1]
The four most important traditions to emerge directly from the reformation were the Lutheran tradition, the Reformed/Calvinist/Presbyterian tradition, the Anabaptist tradition, and the Anglican tradition. Subsequent Protestant traditions generally trace their roots back to these initial four schools of the Reformation. It also led to the Catholic or Counter Reformation within the Roman Catholic Church. Lutherans, Reformed, Anabaptists, and Methodists all included references to the Papacy as the Antichrist in their confessions of faith:
Evangelical Lutheran Church in America
In 1976 the Association of Evangelical Lutheran Churches (AELC) was formed from congregations that left the Lutheran Church - Missouri Synod in a schism precipitated by progressive-traditionalist disputes over higher criticism, academic freedom and ecumenism. Its establishment was precipitated by the Seminex controversy at the LCMS's Concordia Seminary in St. Louis, Missouri in 1974. The AELC brought approximately 100,000 members into the ELCA. Its immigrant heritage came mostly from Germany; the complexion of its theology generally resembled that of the LCA, as the dissenting former "moderate" faction of the LCMS.
Differences within the ELCA
The ELCA has many differences of opinion among its constituent congregations, which have caused a number of disputes over social and doctrinal issues. In part, this is due to the fact that it assimilated three different Lutheran church bodies, each with its own factions and divisions, thus inheriting old intra-group conflicts while creating new inter-group ones. Differences on issues usually reflect theological disputes between various parties.
Wisconsin Evangelical Lutheran Synod
In 1959 the WELS formally issued its Statement on the Antichrist, a doctrinal statement that declared, "we reaffirm the statement of the Lutheran Confessions, that 'the Pope is the very Antichrist'".[21] This identification of the Antichrist with the Pope is part of traditional Protestant amillennial historicism.[22] [23] [24] The Roman Catholic Church is also amillennialist, but, unlike the WELS, holds to the view that the Antichrist will come near the end of the world. Mark Schroeder, president of WELS, affirmed in 2011 that "WELS does hold to the historic Lutheran position that the Roman Catholic papacy fits the biblical characteristics of the Antichrist." He also stated that "While WELS continues to see the characteristics of the Antichrist in the Roman Catholic papacy, it is wrong and dishonest to portray this belief as stemming from anti-Catholic bigotry. We do have strong convictions, and we identify what we believe are teachings that depart from the Word of God. But we hold no animosity toward Christians who hold the Roman Catholic faith, and we respect the right of people to hold beliefs different from ours even as we point out the error. Furthermore, we rejoice that even in the Roman Catholic Church, where we believe that the gospel has been distorted, there are many Catholics who hold to a simple faith in Jesus Christ as their Savior and who will ultimately be saved. Testifying to the errors that still exist in Catholic doctrine is itself an expression of love; remaining silent or glossing over doctrinal differences would express the opposite."[25]
Lutheran Church Missouri Synod
Antichrists
The LCMS holds that all "false teachers who teach contrary to Christ's Word are opponents of Christ" and, insofar as they do so, are anti-Christ.[17] The LCMS does not teach, nor has it ever taught, that any individual Pope as a person is to be identified with the Antichrist.[17] However, to the extent that the papacy continues to claim as official dogma the canons and decrees of the Council of Trent, the LCMS position is that the office of the papacy is the Antichrist.[17]
Originally posted by adjensen
Originally posted by mymymy
reply to post by adjensen
Yes we are an experiment. If God gave the world everything, but didn't give everyone everything, but sat back to see if we would follow his "blueprint", THAT is an experiment.
No, it isn't. It's called existence. You are put here, given direction, both internal (conscience) and external (teaching) that tells you what is moral and how to act. Whether you choose to act in accordance with that morality is your choice. Period. That goes for you, me, Bill Gates, President Obama, everyone.
I don't know how to dissect comments like you, but Would I force my children to do things against their wills? If I was Omnipotent and could provide for all, well, I wouldn't have to, if I was Omnipotent, I am not cruel so I would never put them in that position,
How? How would you never put them in that position? Would you simply make sure that food magically appeared on the plates of all the poor people? How would that affect how people perceived you, and how they perceived their duty to those around them?
but seeing as I am NOT Omnipotent, if my child had more then he needed, yes I would force him to do what's right
So, you see nothing wrong with forcing your will on others, regardless of their beliefs or desires? You're that sure that your view of right and wrong is so correct that you are willing to dictate it to others, regardless of what they think?