Should we have a two tiered system of healthcare, one for religious people, and one for non-believer

No amount of evidence/logic will ever change the minds of some religious people.... so let's start letting them truly live by their beliefs....

Perhaps a two tiered system of health care would help: the believers get care based on faith, alchemy, astrology and whatnot, we get medicine based on science.....

I have had enough of "moderate" believers... you either take all elements of a religion, or you don't take any of it at my opinion.....

So, believers should also not be allowed abortions, not be allowed to eat any shelfish, ever..(A bit shelfish i know, hohoho...) Not allowed to wear clothes of different materials in the same outfit... and be forced to stone to death their own families should they profess to believing in another random deity....

Discuss..

PA

reply to post by PerfectAnomoly


The beauty with my religion is there are no hard and fast rules, there are many different people with each a different way of faith. So whatever.

Your thread title is misleading, OP.

Shouldn't it read "Hey Religious People, Hope Your Fairy Tale Takes Care of You!" or something? If you want to rail against religion, have at it, ATS is a pretty good place to do that.

But I clicked here thinking you'd actually present some sort of nuance solution to the ACA debate.

reply to post by PerfectAnomoly


Perfect, another way to let the sheeps fall of the cliff lol.


"Take that cancer reduction medicine away! My faith and my belief in _______ will save me! just you watch!

But even religious are not that stupid, well fundies are everywhere tho, but not a majority.

Originally posted by ldyserenity
reply to post by PerfectAnomoly

 

The beauty with my religion is there are no hard and fast rules, there are many different people with each a different way of faith. So whatever.

edit on 15-11-2012 by ldyserenity because: word left out

What she said. Its a silly premise. Which religion? Jews don't eat pork but Christians do. Baptists don't drink alcohol but Catholics do. Hindus are veggies and Norse Pagans like to feast on all sorts of roast beast.

Here's a better idea, let's try to stop persecuting other people because they are different from us, M'kay?

Originally posted by PerfectAnomoly



So, believers should also not be allowed abortions, not be allowed to eat any shelfish, ever..(A bit shelfish i know, hohoho...) Not allowed to wear clothes of different materials in the same outfit... and be forced to stone to death their own families should they profess to believing in another random deity....

Discuss..

Hmmmm, so you are biased about abortions?

I do believe health care should be a basic human right to anybody. Why should religion have anything to do with it?

If a person needs health care, then they should have access to it.

I'm a Christian by the way, but eat food based on an Old Testament diet. I have not eaten pork, or shellfish for decades.

Could you explain your reasoning a little more, because I don't think your thread is about health care at all, but is a rant to put down religions? Tell me if I am wrong here?

Originally posted by luciddream
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Perfect, another way to let the sheeps fall of the cliff lol.


"Take that cancer reduction medicine away! My faith and my belief in _______ will save me! just you watch!

But even religious are not that stupid, well fundies are everywhere tho, but not a majority.

I would suggest that many more Christians believe that God blessed the oncologist with the skill and knowlege to treat them and feel that it fits in with the plan. That religion and science are incompatible is a stupid fallicy promoted by the intolerant on both sides of the issue.

reply to post by NavyDoc


I think the main reason behind that OP is that. Why do religious hate on science but take medicines?

Faith is not enough?(rhetoric)

reply to post by PerfectAnomoly

Are you at work? You should be fired for surfing the internet on company time and gross stupidity.

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Hmmm. except I own the company.....

PA

I don´t really care if adults refuse their own medical treatment because of their beliefs, BUT quite often their childrens has to pay their parents religious views, unnecessary deaths just because their parents refuse treatment to their kids.

11-year-old Madeline Neumann of Weston, Wisconsin has died of a treatable form of diabetes. Why? Because her parents denied her medical treatment, going instead with prayer.

There has been several cases like Madeline´s every year, faith healing do not fix the pancreas, there has been no case which would prove otherwise.

Sadly...

There are at least 20 different sects and religious groups in the U.S. whose teachings deny the use of medical care. These groups include: Faith Assembly, Christian Science, The Believer's Fellowship, Faith Tabernacle, Church of viagra order onlinr the First Born, Church of God of the Union Assembly, Church of God Chapel, Faith Temple Doctoral Church of Christ in God, Jesus through John and Judy, Christ Miracle Healing Center, NE Kingdom Community Church, Christ Assembly, The Source, True Followers of Christ, "No Name" Fellowship, End Time Ministries, Faith Cathedral Fellowship, Living Word Assembly of God, Traveling Ministries Everyday Church.

Cases of Childhood Deaths Due to Parental Religious Objection to Necessary Medical Care

So sad...

IMO childrens should have their own law against parental neglect and right to have medical care.

Originally posted by luciddream
reply to post by NavyDoc

 

I think the main reason behind that OP is that. Why do religious hate on science but take medicines?

Faith is not enough?(rhetoric)

The flaw of the basic premise is that most religious people do not "hate on science."

reply to post by PerfectAnomoly

the believers get care based on faith, alchemy, astrology and whatnot, we get medicine based on science.....

Sounds similar to population control.

The elite cannot wait to stick all Christians in a FEMA camp, deprive the people of drugs and watch them all die.

Do you work for the Tavistock Institute?