I find this sick and dont like where it is heading (ohio woman/idiot sign)

reply to post by lobotomizemecapin


And now you think less of me because I am sick to death of criminals walking away...with slaps on the hand? I'm tired of criminal behavior..ESPECIALLY when children are involved. I'm sick of this system..I just think what we have been doing in the past is obviously not working...we need to be more creative..

I will never back down on violent punishment for crimes against children. Death is the only fitting punishment for those sick individuals.

Listen you're losing this argument...I think everyone is in agreement with what the judge has done..

Originally posted by lobotomizemecapin

Originally posted by TXRabbit
reply to post by lobotomizemecapin

 

I disagree. How old is your child and do they/have they stood at a bus-stop?

Why dont you actually read what I am trying to say?

Who cares about the crime she should be punished but not in a way that violates her rights as a US citizen

The slow degredation of our rights are being justified by things like this. we let it slide now and it will become a more and more normal occurrence.

My daughter is almost two so no.

This does not affect me so I am cool with it!
What rights do we actually have again?????

It is not cruel nor unusual to do this, and if more people faced this kind of punishment for minor offenses they may not progress to the point of murder, rape, or other violent offenses.

She was eventually going to hit a child or adult in her impatient stupid me first attitude. This probably saved a childs life.

Cruel and unusual would be if she was dragged down the sidewalk by the school bus as punishment. I wish more judges would do this type of punishment. Especially for repeat offenders such as drunk drivers who continue to drive even when their license is revoked.

Originally posted by mikellmikell
Who do you think she voted for last week!!!

Well, judging by her reckless behavior with a vehicle, I'd say she voted for Romney because of his affinity of strapping dogs on the roof of cars.

Or... were you just commenting on her being a black person?

reply to post by lobotomizemecapin

Now I do feel this woman did indeed behave like an idiot and do not condone her actions but this is a blatant abuse of power by the judge involved.

Jail vs. holding sign. Woman is lucky IMO.

If the report is correct, judge could have tossed in before a conviction technically, for mocking the court (contempt).

"She did this almost every day last year," Kelley said. "She won't stop laughing. She's not remorseful, she laughed at every court appearance. She's still laughing, so she needs to be humiliated like this."


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reply to post by lobotomizemecapin

Yes I have a child and yes she should be punished in accordance with her crime but not in a way that violates her rights as a US citizen because eventually it will affect us all

How does holding a sign violate her rights?

By the way, these types of things are usually agreed upon by the offender. Like peace bonds. It's an alternative measure to jail or other punishments. If she agrees to it what's the problem?

The point of the OP is not about kids, and is really disturbing how people's rational thinking can't get pass the words "school bus".
It's also not about defending that woman. It's about public humiliation. Take her driver license away forever, throw her in jail, give her community work to do, whatever punishment you think it's appropriate. But forcing her to wear a sign in public were she called herself idiot? Wth is that, kindergarten rules? Is she the only one endangering kids?
Would someone agree to wear a sign like that every time when it is caught speeding up? "I'm an idiot driving at incredible illegal speed". So what next? They'll brand people with fire for crime?

She's an idiot, maybe, more likely selfish, careless and inconsiderate person. But the point is the punishment, and if the rest of us doing something wrong at some point in our life would want to be publicly humiliated for that.

Just a note, I would have never wear that sign, no matter what I would have done, and what that judge would say.

reply to post by DarthMuerte


this is a completely different thread seeing as the discussion is about the violation of the womans rights

Only an idiot would find that punishment too harsh for the offense.

Jus' goofin'...However, the look on the errant drivers face does seem to suggest that maybe, just maybe, the message got through...

Originally posted by MmmPie
These kinds of "creative punishments" have been going on since I was a kid. Not surprised.


If the judge wanted to make a statement, he would have revoked her license

Right cause a woman who will drive on the sidewalk to avoid a bus DEFINITELY wont drive w out a license.......

logic fail......

Originally posted by lobotomizemecapin
reply to post by alfa1

 

oh my this woman drove on an obviously empty sidewalk where if someone had been walking they would be easily avoided. Stupid but does not warrant the blatant violation of her rights

bet you wouldnt feel that way if your child or family member got hit.........

p.s. what rights of hers did he violate?

very strange behaviour by the motorist. there was plenty of room to pass the bus on the road. odd.

Originally posted by Neopan100
reply to post by lobotomizemecapin

 

And now you think less of me because I am sick to death of criminals walking away...with slaps on the hand? I'm tired of criminal behavior..ESPECIALLY when children are involved. I'm sick of this system..I just think what we have been doing in the past is obviously not working...we need to be more creative..

I will never back down on violent punishment for crimes against children. Death is the only fitting punishment for those sick individuals.

Listen you're losing this argument...I think everyone is in agreement with what the judge has done..

It was meant to be more of a joke but whatever.

I am more concerned with the direction this is heading. It appears many on this site are just as sheep like as the ones they despise.

We should be progressing in our civilization not reverting back to our old primitive ways

Originally posted by ManBehindTheMask

Originally posted by lobotomizemecapin
reply to post by alfa1

 

oh my this woman drove on an obviously empty sidewalk where if someone had been walking they would be easily avoided. Stupid but does not warrant the blatant violation of her rights

bet you wouldnt feel that way if your child or family member got hit.........

p.s. what rights of hers did he violate?

edit on 13-11-2012 by ManBehindTheMask because: (no reason given)

I have posted it several times............

look up the definition of cruel and unusual punishment

reply to post by WhiteHat


To a degree your right, it is also about the OP's interpretation of the law.

The law states that people on both sides of the road must stop when a school bus is stopped with it's flashers on, which was the case in this. I believe that the usaul norm is 50 feet.

So it is about the kids, the school bus and this womans blatant disregard for the law.

Originally posted by The GUT
Only an idiot would find that punishment too harsh for the offense.

Jus' goofin'...However, the look on the errant drivers face does seem to suggest that maybe, just maybe, the message got through...

I never said it was harsh

she deserves more but not a sentence that is a violation of the 8th amendment.

Originally posted by lobotomizemecapin

Originally posted by ManBehindTheMask

Originally posted by lobotomizemecapin
reply to post by alfa1

 

oh my this woman drove on an obviously empty sidewalk where if someone had been walking they would be easily avoided. Stupid but does not warrant the blatant violation of her rights

bet you wouldnt feel that way if your child or family member got hit.........

p.s. what rights of hers did he violate?

edit on 13-11-2012 by ManBehindTheMask because: (no reason given)

I have posted it several times............

look up the definition of cruel and unusual punishment

already did, the woman chose the punishment..... and if you think this is cruel and unusual, you need to get thicker skin......how have you lived this long.......next?

Originally posted by WhiteHat
The point of the OP is not about kids, and is really disturbing how people's rational thinking can't get pass the words "school bus".
It's also not about defending that woman. It's about public humiliation. Take her driver license away forever, throw her in jail, give her community work to do, whatever punishment you think it's appropriate. But forcing her to wear a sign in public were she called herself idiot? Wth is that, kindergarten rules? Is she the only one endangering kids?
Would someone agree to wear a sign like that every time when it is caught speeding up? "I'm an idiot driving at incredible illegal speed". So what next? They'll brand people with fire for crime?

She's an idiot, maybe, more likely selfish, careless and inconsiderate person. But the point is the punishment, and if the rest of us doing something wrong at some point in our life would want to be publicly humiliated for that.

Just a note, I would have never wear that sign, no matter what I would have done, and what that judge would say.

edit on 13-11-2012 by WhiteHat because: (no reason given)

Thank you finally someone who has the ability to read

I tip my hat to you good sir

Originally posted by TDawgRex
reply to post by WhiteHat

 

To a degree your right, it is also about the OP's interpretation of the law.

The law states that people on both sides of the road must stop when a school bus is stopped with it's flashers on, which was the case in this. I believe that the usaul norm is 50 feet.

So it is about the kids, the school bus and this womans blatant disregard for the law.

Yeah. So the punishment should be like those applied for any other traffic crime (not sure if choose the right words).
"Creative" punishment is the new trend now?

Originally posted by TDawgRex
reply to post by WhiteHat

 

To a degree your right, it is also about the OP's interpretation of the law.

The law states that people on both sides of the road must stop when a school bus is stopped with it's flashers on, which was the case in this. I believe that the usaul norm is 50 feet.

So it is about the kids, the school bus and this womans blatant disregard for the law.

When did I say anything about that law (besides the 8th amendment)? This whole thread is about the violation of the 8th amendment