ISREAL: "There May Be a Major Escalation Within Hours"

Originally posted by FlyersFan

Originally posted by intrepid

Originally posted by DOLCOTT
Israel has a right to defend herself...

Says who?

Says the fact that they are a soverign nation and recognized as such by the UN.
Not that anyone needs the UN to back them up .. but there it is.

Actually FF I don't think there is another nation on the planet that has disregarded more UN resolutions than Israel. The UN is NOT happy with the way things are going in Israel/Palestine.

Considering how they
are being poked at constantly ... with bombs continually killing their
civlians and rockets continually raining down upon that,
that's showing some pretty good restraint.

Have you seen the casualty reports? That's hardly restraint.

Netanyahu himself, on the other hand, is looking nuttier by the day.

Yup. I'd wager HE would use nukes that he has before Amajinnutjob that doesn't.

BiBi is mad that he didn't get Romney, so no US involvement.

It's a great day. Bibi can talk, and I can laugh without fear. Get mad, Zionists. Get really mad. You have to play ball with the rest of humanity, and there is nothing you all can do about it.

reply to post by intrepid

Hardly. They are the most provocative nation in the region.

The Islamic Jihad rages across the entire planet, colonizing and eradicating non-mulims cultures wherever they can. Israel is just another victim of the world-wide Islamic Jihad. It is the violent and retrograde Islamic Jihad and the muslims that propagate it from Malmo to New York, from London to Paris to Brisbane to Beslan to Mumbai, it is they who are the most provocative "nation" on the planet. It is the Islamic Empire who provokes nations across the planet.

Originally posted by DOLCOTT
It is sad to see all the Israeli haters, Israel has a right to defend herself and has shown remarkable restraint through the years, Secondly Palestine has never existed, this is Israeli land from 1000's of years ago, not to mention the Biblical aspect that this land was given by God to Abraham, The hajji's believe it is also their holy place so what more do you expect. The muslims only respond and respect force, over whelming force. Weakness as Obama has demonstrated only fans the flames of hatred which has existed in that region for thousands of years. Let Israel handle them if they fall short, we can provide some shock an awe.

actually you are wrong. Israeli never owned that land. were Israeli is now was all Palestine land. they have a right to hate Israeli. The UN relocated Israeli during the war kicking Palestinians out of there own homes and land giving it to the Israeli's. Israeli's should be charged with war crimes and invasion of Palestinian land. you should really look up your facts before your randomly post something you know nothing about. Prove to me that they own the deeds to that land. prove to me that they never took it. to this very day farmers still have there deeds to land they cant go back to because of Israeli.

Originally posted by beezzer
Israel has every right to defend itself. I just wish Israel had a better friend in the US. That way, more country's may think twice about attacking those there.

Against the little teeny tiny chunk they have left of Palestine?

No, because that border is not where it is supposed to be.

If they had not been stealing land and taking over all of what used to be Palestine, sure... then Palestine would be at fault but that's not the case and all you have to do is look at maps to understand that Israel intends to wipe out all Palestinians and PALESTINE is the one who has every right to defend itself before it disappears entirely.

Just try looking at a map one day and understand they have taken over the entire country and even though this was the plan all along, because hell they took Jorden didn't they? In the 20th century why not follow suit with Israel?

Because it's wrong... It's war, it's land grabbing and it's wrong and there is no point in calling the other side wrong for aggression to take land BACK.... when that is the exact same way it was taken from Palestine to begin with.

That's as childish as hitting your sister and then trying to tattle when she hits you back. No pro Israel person can point a finger at Palestine because Israelis are not even supposed to be there. Jews in Palestine? Fine but no BS crime syndicate Israelis because they are not Jews, they are mobsters.

Originally posted by TheOneElectric
BiBi is mad that he didn't get Romney, so no US involvement.

It's a great day. Bibi can talk, and I can laugh without fear. Get mad, Zionists. Get really mad. You have to play ball with the rest of humanity, and there is nothing you all can do about it.

i just hope all the nukes he have are fake ones (1 real for a underground test/show)
that tyran is extremely dangerous with such big toy
kids cant have big toys like that

he only have tanks/warplanes and an army of soldiers with machines guns
that still can hurt a lot of countries and kill a lot of people
scare to fight vs a real army but not scare to beat down palestinians kids ..

reply to post by mike_trivisonno


Really? Islam has been around for centuries. How long has modern day Israel been around? AND has it had any peace since it's establishment? Get off the propaganda bus man.

Originally posted by TheOneElectric
BiBi is mad that he didn't get Romney, so no US involvement.

It's a great day. Bibi can talk, and I can laugh without fear. Get mad, Zionists. Get really mad. You have to play ball with the rest of humanity, and there is nothing you all can do about it.

I hope to God you are right. He's all puffed up because Obamas is still in office and Obama bluffs him and knows it.

Now if Obama bluffs us and jumps on the Zionist band wagon, I'm gonna be so pissed. Like as in "drive to Washington and protest" pissed and I live a long way from DC.

This Zionist war has to be stopped and the elite need to just cut their losses and try harder in the future to come up with a better global takeover plan if they want to take it back from socialists because they are just wasting their time and spilling unnecessary blood.

He is going to get his ass SO KICKED when he pushes the wrong button and this wingnut doesn't even see it coming.

You go ahead on out in a blaze of glory Netanyahu if that props up your war mongering ego. Every dog has it's day.

Originally posted by mike_trivisonno

The Islamic Jihad rages across the entire planet, colonizing and eradicating non-mulims cultures wherever they can. Israel is just another victim of the world-wide Islamic Jihad. It is the violent and retrograde Islamic Jihad and the muslims that propagate it from Malmo to New York, from London to Paris to Brisbane to Beslan to Mumbai, it is they who are the most provocative "nation" on the planet. It is the Islamic Empire who provokes nations across the planet.

edit on 12-11-2012 by mike_trivisonno because: (no reason given)

This is what it's like for Jews living in Iran. The largest concentration of Jews outside of Israel is in IRAN!!!!!

Originally posted by DOLCOTT
It is sad to see all the Israeli haters, Israel has a right to defend herself and has shown remarkable restraint through the years, Secondly Palestine has never existed, this is Israeli land from 1000's of years ago, not to mention the Biblical aspect that this land was given by God to Abraham, The hajji's believe it is also their holy place so what more do you expect. The muslims only respond and respect force, over whelming force. Weakness as Obama has demonstrated only fans the flames of hatred which has existed in that region for thousands of years. Let Israel handle them if they fall short, we can provide some shock an awe.

Devout Jewish people of the world are against this violence, and within the M.E. Jewish people lived peacefully alongside those of other faiths, UNTIL the zionist regime (also of Jewish descent) hijacked the area now called Israel after WWII.
www.jewsagainstzionism.com...

"Now if Obama bluffs us and jumps on the Zionist band wagon..."

While he might make statements that indicate something to the contrary, he wouldn't even be where he is if he didn't dance the dance, no?

reply to post by DOLCOTT


yes...but they have been planning to take Mount Hermon....in december 2012
since the gnostic religion was concieved

as for defending itself....they were licking their lips and eagerly waiting to get involved to secure mount hermon

but in their own religion...thats the border....they cant occupy past it....but thats gnostic religion

Originally posted by intrepid
reply to post by mike_trivisonno

 

Really? Islam has been around for centuries. How long has modern day Israel been around? AND has it had any peace since it's establishment? Get off the propaganda bus man.

Yeah and that new state they erected less than a century ago that is one of the most unstable countries on the globe is full of nukes yet barking orders about whether or not other countries can have them.

Does that make a lick of sense to anyone?

They are the LAST ones that should be dolling out nuclear policy and their own arsenal needs to be cleaned up because they are like a toddler with a blow torch.

Israel? Telling Iran about who should have nukes? GIMME A BREAK!

Why? Because they have a line to God almighty? Who the hell made unstable, pseudo-state Israel the world manager of nuclear policy? That's like a crack head telling me to watch my cholesterol.

Look at them all walking around like they are some kind of real government. It's hysterical!

and our dumb population is like "yep, yep... good ol Israel knows whats best... God's People and all that yackity shmackity"

Isreal shouldn't have the authority to be so much as telling snow in Siberia how to melt, much less the rest of the world on nuclear policy.

reply to post by UnknownEntity4U


I challenge you to find 1 piece of historical data that mentions the land of Palestine, it never has existed as a country a people or a place. Even the romans spoke of Israel. Who is on whom's land. Deeds issued by a conqueour aren't worth the paper they are written on, once that occupying force s gone.

reply to post by davcwebb


So they are preparing for their propaganda campaign, getting all their ducks in a row before the world starts watching them.
I wonder if they'll be more convincing this time, maybe not denying on live TV that they are using white phosphorous over civilians while we can see it raining down over Mark Regev's shoulder?

I hope, with all my heart, that the world takes action this time. I was enraged last time to see our countries sitting back and watching as that f'ed up regime murdered people, and we made noises about it "not being nice".

If Israel drops one bomb on Gaza our countries should be evicting all Israeli embassy staff and diplomats immediately, without pause, without discussion. Aggressors should not be permitted to hold embassy positions in countries where the public wants them out!

Just for a little perspective on this issue. All this tripe that is causing problems in the region are populated by about the same as the state of Pennsylvania. About 13 million people. Hell, that not even 2 NYC's. And the whole world gets bent out of shape over it. THAT has to say something about some people's agenda. But then again, so did Viet Nam, Korea, etc.

reply to post by detachedindividual

i hear that

my point is

we are unconditional supporters of isreali rhetoric

but are we their`s

history has proved that america can only rely on itself...
why do we follow backstabbers into alices hole

??

Originally posted by DOLCOTT
reply to post by UnknownEntity4U

 

Who is on whom's land. Deeds issued by a conqueour aren't worth the paper they are written on, once that occupying force s gone.

Exactly, thank you for arguing against your own point.

Originally posted by DOLCOTT
Even the romans spoke of Israel.

Which they destroyed in 70 CE. As far as I know israel wasn't a nation again until the US and UK decided to recreate a fallen land.

Who is on whom's land. Deeds issued by a conqueour aren't worth the paper they are written on, once that occupying force s gone.

I've asked before, I'll ask again. Do we give North America back to the natives that were here millenia before we were?

While we argue over who is right and who is wrong, other political zeitgeists are taking place. An example is the Children of the Sun, movement. There is a collective idea that all souls should join as one and that we should lose the desire to control our individuality. This group and others believe that a higher power or set of higher powers are going to "land" from another place onto this earth. Are you ready to kiss your identity goodbye?

As for the bible's revelations and its prophesies, this is cut and paste. The idea that we are the "I Am" and that we are also God, sounds very much like this new religion idea suggested by some theologians. Not sayin' that this is what is happening, but I think it is.

As for the Jews right to live in Israel, absolutely. If it were any other group of people, we would agree without all of the discussion. This is more that just another country, it is a group of very ancient people with ancient faith returning to their land. This is the fulfillment of prophesy however, and that makes it threatening. As for our involvement (U.S.) prophesy states that Israel will defend itself on their own and win.