I'm so disappointed in Jesse Ventura!

So, I was really excited that a new season of Conspiracy Theory with Jesse Ventura was starting back up. I had wondered when more episodes might come about. To be honest, I had experienced some disappointment in some previous episodes, because as a person who has done a lot research on certain topics, as we all here have, I thought that his focal points on issues such as 9/11 were weak, rambling.

I just woke up this morning and looked at the cable guide, and saw that there was a new episode out. Ok. Awesome! What a nice surprise. I'm watching it now and it's ridiculous. The "reptilian agenda". I'm embarrased, literally. I feel almost betrayed. It's so stupid, and he just destroyed all the work we've done. Bastard.

Lee

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I think it was meant to be kind of out there to show that Jesse doesn't necessarily believe every conspiracy he runs into.

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Here's a conspiracy theory , do you think that if Conspiracy Theory with Jesse Ventura was going to actually delve into real stuff and open a can of worms the PTB would let it air ?
No neither do I

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Perhaps he got a little too close to a few marks. This "way out there" conspiracy episode could be a way of "pulling back" from topics too hot to mess with.

Originally posted by gortex
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Here's a conspiracy theory , do you think that if Conspiracy Theory with Jesse Ventura was going to actually delve into real stuff and open a can of worms the PTB would let it air ?
No neither do I

I gotta admit, I kinda agree with you. I've been trying to get away from conspiracy because it was actually starting to affect my personality. You know...making me angry and such and just negative things. I haven't even posted here in quite a while. But I agree with your premise. I was thinking that very thing, like it's purposefully discrediting.

I don't know, he just threw away all of his credibility right now...the show is literally still on and I'm just shaking my head. They have this lesbian speaking in her "native reptilian tongue"! Christ!

Jesse's supporters complain about Obama's win but Jesse could have made a real impact by running on a ticket with Ron Paul or Gary Johnson.

It's a missed opportunity.

The tired old "But the PTB would kill him!" excuse doesn't work here.

Either # or get off of the pot.

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I thought he was right on when he asked Icke to show him something to prove it and he got all uppity and insulted especially after Ventura suggested he was in it for the money. For me the reptilian subject has not proven anything. All I see are pixelated irises and that shot of the person's eyes changing on the show was nonsense.

Originally posted by 200Plus
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Perhaps he got a little too close to a few marks. This "way out there" conspiracy episode could be a way of "pulling back" from topics too hot to mess with.

Yeah, I don't think you're wrong, but I don't think he realizes it. I think he's acting like a dupe. Like my subject alluded, I'm just disappointed. There are serious things to be discussed, but he fell for trap.

Originally posted by bottleslingguy
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I thought he was right on when he asked Icke to show him something to prove it and he got all uppity and insulted especially after Ventura suggested he was in it for the money. For me the reptilian subject has not proven anything. All I see are pixelated irises and that shot of the person's eyes changing on the show was nonsense.

Right on, I agree 100%. I'm going to film school in the spring (so I don't pretend to be an expert because I've yet to be formally educated), but I do have a basic understanding of film. Pixalation!!! Jesus!

Originally posted by VaterOrlaag
Jesse's supporters complain about Obama's win but Jesse could have made a real impact by running on a ticket with Ron Paul or Gary Johnson.

It's a missed opportunity.

The tired old "But the PTB would kill him!" excuse doesn't work here.

Either # or get off of the pot.

Ha! One of my favorite, and most true, quotes. The last line by the way.

I thought the season opener would be a better topic than reptilians? They will probably loose some fans of the show cause of this. I know I am dissapointed. I will watch next week but if it's something as silly as this show was, I'm done.

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Yeah, pretty much my point, but I don't know, what can you expect from a professional wrestler. I just thought for a while he was genuine, but clearly I was wrong.

You know, TruTV is a sham from start to finish. I remember the first time I watched Lizard Lick Towing (by the way, the pseudonym my father has always used for fallacio, forgive my mispellings), but I watched that show once and just thought, oh hell, this is phony as it gets. I guess Jesse's show is no different. I'm ashamed of him.

Yeah," Lizard people taking over and under ground aliens and conspiracy" truthers 9/11" crap, that won't go away ...people are "sheeese!! bonkers/ nuts !! give it a rest!! But wait Jesse Ventura shows you more Nuts than you can handle!! (though on the recent show I saw one that really should be in a mental hospital (maybe 3 now that I think about it)

But, I watched the "Lizard people" Jesse show anyway. It did show that people are either "nuts" or out to make a buck (David Icke-what a sociopath!! ) that are into the lizard thang.

the end

I love it at the end when he confronts David Icke!

That guy is such a freaking nut he should be locked up to keep him from infecting the rest of the world with his insanity.

For Icke it's obviously about the money I don't think he even believes his own baloney anymore but if people are willing to pay why not take the money. (i guess...:@@

Originally posted by cavalryscout
I love it at the end when he confronts David Icke!

That guy is such a freaking nut he should be locked up to keep him from infecting the rest of the world with his insanity.

For Icke it's obviously about the money I don't think he even believes his own baloney anymore but if people are willing to pay why not take the money. (i guess...:@@

I just watched Alex Jones on here. By the way, I rarely listen to Alex any longer literally because he was beginning to make me an angry person. That doesn't mean I think he's wrong, he's just too angry for me. However, Alex just made my point. He said, this topic and guys like David Icke ruin the things that we can prove by arguing things we can't!!! Ha! Perfect. That's the point.

Haven't seen the episode yet, but judging by the remarks, it's not so great.

I listen to Alex Jones occasionally on podcast where I can FF past his opening nonsense and go straight to the guests and also still check out infowars once in while, if you're sensible enough to filter things , there is some interesting information there.

I want to like Jesse and agree with many things he has said in the past, but I can't say I'm a fan of his only showing up when there's something to sell or promote. He talks a good game but behaves more like a showman first in every respect. I think he may also be justifying his show's weaker points by telling himself that at least SOME truth is getting out or that just exposing the IDEA is all somehow worth selling out over.

That's really his choice I think, ridiculous over the top or nothing. As long as he doesn't claim otherwise I can tolerate it once in a while...just like Alex, in small doses he's tolerable.

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As he said in the show, he found that it was an unbelievable conspiracy.He was only investigating it because it is one of the top 10 conspiracy's people are believing in right now. And he showed that it was a lot of nonsense.

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Op, I watched this episode and he really didn't believe it was true from the onset. He voiced his concerns about his own personal credibility a few times in the beginning. How can you prove or disprove something if you cannot have enough of an open mind to do the digging and research to do so?

Besides, he made David Icke look like a complete jerk at the end of the show - as David Icke did a lot of himhawing and evading questions. Icke himself did a pretty good job in making himself look like a flake and rather incredulous and utterly ridiculous as well.

Ventura speaks in a few blogs online about how he was told by the producers of the show to tone it down, due to them being threatened by the federal government for airing the Fema camps and Police State episodes. Seems he ruffled a few feathers with those...

Originally posted by Rubicant13
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Op, I watched this episode and he really didn't believe it was true from the onset. He voiced his concerns about his own personal credibility a few times in the beginning. How can you prove or disprove something if you cannot have enough of an open mind to do the digging and research to do so?

Besides, he made David Icke look like a complete jerk at the end of the show - as David Icke did a lot of himhawing and evading questions. Icke himself did a pretty good job in making himself look like a flake and rather incredulous and utterly ridiculous as well.

Ventura speaks in a few blogs online about how he was told by the producers of the show to tone it down, due to them being threatened by the federal government for airing the Fema camps and Police State episodes. Seems he ruffled a few feathers with those...

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Valid point. It just pissed me off.

Yeah, I just got done watching the newest ep of Conspiracy Theory, and he doesn't seem to agree with it whatsoever, so why would you make all of these comments about how he disappointed you for checking out a conspiracy, and even saying at the end he doesn't even believe it. So once in a while he picks up a weird one, so?

I see nothing wrong with this Episode and it doesn't make me dislike him or feel disappointed about the airing of this show. I actually like the fact that he agrees that it seems like patoohey and that he did the show to perhaps show that he's not one of those 'all conspiracies are real' things - and that there are ones that he thinks is hogwash.

Personally, I don't quite buy into the reptilian thing myself, but then again, how would I know? Maybe it's real, maybe it's not.