Letter to my wife

Originally posted by BogieSmiles
The "we agree automatically" thing is a silly, but perspective is everything, sometimes. My perspective on it is that my wife and I have been married a long time and we have different views on various things. If we aren't careful, one or the other of us will get more excited about a topic than the other because of a disagreement on the topic. We know we do that, and we have found it helps avoid those situations which can become angry arguments by making the pact. The pact is that we agree to start out our disagreement with the statement something like, "I agree with you, but ...", in stead of, "You are crazier than a loon". The full statement then becomes, "I agree with you but you are crazier than a loon". We can laugh at that because we know that this is one of those discussions that could get heated and the "I agree but" is both the tip off and the pressure release.

As far as it being "obviously ridiculous and stupid", I agree with you but ..."

OH! You were serious! I apologize! That was very rude of me then. I thought it was actually part of the political statement, mocking some thing/someone/ some ideology.....
My husband and I are pretty much on the opposite ends of every issue, being of different cultures as well, so I know it can be difficult. We don't use that particular method, and it sounded "silly" to me, but if it works for you than it is not, obviously.

So... I don't know how much of this was serious and how much was not. Did you really have your wife read "Atlas Shrugged"? Or was that making fun of it?

We chose a pretty isolated spot in the mountains of south east France, away from the big cities, the corporations,- sounds much like Des described. City folk need help when they fall on hard times, 'cause they have no land to grow their own food, or hunt. They are dependant on the big corporations and banks (who take advantage of that). It provides a much more peaceful mind to escape that and be autonomous!

-but if you do that, make sure you are not one of those people who went down the road of office work and "brain work"- because it is an extremely physical life. Being independant sometimes comes with more than one imagined...... (part of why Atlas Shrugged was silly in my mind too! A bunch of intellectuals in the wilderness wouldn't have lasted more than a couple of weeks!

Originally posted by Bluesma


OH! You were serious! I apologize! That was very rude of me then. I thought it was actually part of the political statement, mocking some thing/someone/ some ideology.....
My husband and I are pretty much on the opposite ends of every issue, being of different cultures as well, so I know it can be difficult. We don't use that particular method, and it sounded "silly" to me, but if it works for you than it is not, obviously.

Interestingly enough my wife and I are of different ethnic backgrounds, but she speaks Spanish and so we can negotiate our way around Europe a little better than I could on my own. A tour of France is on the agenda, but no time frame since we just got home from Spain. My grandfather's parents were from France.

So... I don't know how much of this was serious and how much was not. Did you really have your wife read "Atlas Shrugged"? Or was that making fun of it?

I read it during the height of our political campaign. I wasn't knocking it and I have passed it on to my wife but it is a big read, and she has to get that second job, you know.

We chose a pretty isolated spot in the mountains of south east France, away from the big cities, the corporations,- sounds much like Des described. City folk need help when they fall on hard times, 'cause they have no land to grow their own food, or hunt. They are dependant on the big corporations and banks (who take advantage of that). It provides a much more peaceful mind to escape that and be autonomous!

-but if you do that, make sure you are not one of those people who went down the road of office work and "brain work"- because it is an extremely physical life. Being independant sometimes comes with more than one imagined......

That is good advice, and our "place to go" would have to be close to civilization, lol.

(part of why Atlas Shrugged was silly in my mind too! A bunch of intellectuals in the wilderness wouldn't have lasted more than a couple of weeks!

edit on 10-11-2012 by Bluesma because: (no reason given)

Since you mention it, it was quite fanciful. I enjoyed it though, and if my wife reads it we can relate some of the political circumstances to the current move to the left in our country. BTW, I just started Fountainhead so maybe if she sees me reading another Ayn Rand book she will start in on Atlas :shrug:.

reply to post by BogieSmiles


I think this is a creative way to discuss a life changing topic with your wife, and suspect you have decided to post it on ATS hoping for some feedback from other members to give more perceptives to the decisions you and your wife will ultimately make.

Many of us are feeling dissapointed and frankly outright worried about the future of our country. I voted Gary Johnson, and I see the problems our nation faces from a different perceptive perhaps then you may. I see the biggest threat in a SHTF senario as coming from the government , more then from the "have-nots"...but let's put that aside for the moment.

I have had similar instincts to relocate, and have discussed this with my family, they want No part of it, so for me, I'd rather die with them, then live life without them close by. If your wife is willing to consider a major move there are some very interesting things to consider, especially if you have assests you want to protect. It might be a good starting place for the two of you is to start researching what "insiders" are doing to prepare...I don't have time this morning to find links for you, but there is some insightful suggestions worthy of consideration if you research this.

Some quick points many seem to be saying.....

1. Have up to date passports
2. Liguidate assets so you don't owe any money if possible, convert to gold and silver
3. Always keep at least, if possible, enough money on your person in gold coins to hop on a plane if need be.
4. Look at where the "elite" are buying property,
5. Have enough supplies on hand to be self sufficiant, during a crisis, and prepared to "hunker" down.

I wish you and your wife well, and hope you are able to find the right path for your family.....Good Luck...