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Rear Admiral Charles M. Gaouette was relieved of his command of the Stennis strike group in the Mediterranean in late October. Such a removal is unprecedented. The Navy denies that the removal was in regard to Benghazi, and indeed the Stennis was in the Pacific on 9/11/12. However the Navy has issued a fairly cryptic statement that the removal was for “inappropriate leadership judgment” during the deployment of the Stennis to the Middle East and has stressed that this does not involve any improper personal conduct by the Admiral. All very mysterious.
The Combatant Commander of Africa Command on 9/11/12, General Carter F. Ham abruptly retired on October 18. Republican Congressman Jason Chaffetz reported that in an interview he had with General Ham in Libya that the General told him that in regard to the Benghazi attach he had never been asked to provide military assistance. The internet is ablaze with rumors that General Ham attempted to send assistance to Benghazi during the attack and was told to stand down. Thus far the General has remained mum.
In regard to General Petraeus there are many questions. Allegedly the affair came to light months ago when the FBI caught his alleged paramour attempting to access his e-mails. One might be curious as to why the FBI was involved in this and the answer is quite simple. The FBI and the CIA have been at war with each other since the creation of the CIA’s predecessor the OSS in World War II and routinely keep track of the higher-ups in each organization. (Yeah, I know: our tax dollars at work.) Apparently the affair has been known for at least several months, and I find it hard to believe that both the CIA and the FBI did not know of the affair before Petraeus was onfirmed as CIA Director, the background checks for such a position being extremely comprehensive. This all raises the question as to why the affair triggers a resignation now. His wife Holly works for the White House and unless she was in the dark on the affair, and considering how gossipy the military community tends to be I find that hard to believe, presumably the affair was known at the White House.
Originally posted by Destinyone
Originally posted by Stormdancer777
Some interesting things about Paula,
www.thedailybeast.com...
To say Paula Broadwell is an overachiever is an understatement. She grew up in North Dakota, graduated from West Point and worked in military intelligence. She studied Arabic in the Middle East—Jordan in particular—and specialized in counterinsurgency, counterterrorism, and geopolitical analysis.
www.thedailybeast.com...
The more I find out about this whole debacle. The more I have thoughts of the show/series...Homeland....
Des
Originally posted by Ahabstar
reply to post by Ghost375
Oh it might end in a split between the House and Senate and in that case will result in a general censor of Obama just as Bill Clinton had. But there will be impeachment proceedings.
Obama has already been caught in a small lie and outed himself during the second debate. That in itself is enough to warrant further investigations. The fact that Speaker of the House Boehner will be informed in the coming weeks that he will no longer have the luxury of unopposed elections to his seat in Congress is just enough of a fire lit under his butt to push for them.
Always remember that job number one for every elected official is to get re-elected.
Originally posted by Ahabstar
reply to post by butcherguy
Ultimately it is a matter of four members of the State Department urgently needing and requesting assistance that was not acted on for whatever reasons. An unannounced border crossing of troops requires the President's approval. So the question is did he let them die intentionally or was he unavailable for some reason? And if so, what was the reason? Becuase short of stopping a nuclear exchange, nothing should have taken precedence of a President's time....of course he could have been engaged in the gripping and riveting story of My Pet Goat and will blame it on Bush again for turning him on to that book. That would get him out of it, right?
Originally posted by Montana
Originally posted by Ahabstar
reply to post by gangdumstyle
If both Obama and Biden are implemented (charges could be as serious as aiding the enemy in a time of war since they have Al-Qaeda connections) and impeached at the same time, Boehner becomes POTUS. Some other Republican becomes SoH and Boehner's empty Congressional seat is filled by either appointment or special election.
It really all depends on who was in the room and who did and said what. The only way to avoid impeachment proceedings after the initial investigation hearings is for a back room deal to occur. But it is going to take more than just extending the Bush Tax cuts. I would say that Obamacare is on the table at this point.
Originally posted by AuranVector
reply to post by JacKatMtn
I suspect that Obama did a "J. Edgar Hoover" on Petraeus more than a year ago. Hoover collected dirt on people to be used -- just in case.
Making Petraeus head of the CIA was a way of containing him.
Petraeus was expected to play ball with Obama -- say what Obama wanted him to say in public -- or else.
Petraeus resigned and made the affair public to circumvent Obama's threat of blackmail.
Petraeus couldn't get out of there fast enough.
You bet this was about Benghazi.
Let's hope Petraeus doesn't have an "accident."
We will see what unfolds.
edit on 10-11-2012 by AuranVector because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by jimmyx
wow!...this is a big story!!....and it seems to be from a reliable source...a military coup, and i have not heard a word about it on MSM....i'll bet a million dollars, the republicans won't even touch this in the house as far as bringing an investigation....this is one serious charge, and since it is a fact that it's still up on the website, means that there is some truth to it.....a large bowel movement should be hitting the spinning fan blades any day now.
www.veteranstoday.com...
Originally posted by Montana
It was Petraeus' op in Benghazi that got Stevens killed. It was Petraeus' operators that were tasked with rescuing Stevens. They were too late. I am confused why anyone is surprised that he is leaving his post.