Is it time to replace God with aliens?

It's all about definition. If I think your an idiot, and others don't, it's still my opinion on definition. (I don't think your an idiot, it's just a point)

Having said that people think of aliens are little green physical beings but ignore the unseen spiritual ones which in your definition are still 'alien' to human life.

Of course one could argue that we are the 'aliens' in this universe because their the spiritual existed long before the physical. The difficulty is that we are only three dimensional and are of limited life and abiltiy

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Todays heaven would seem to mean higher dimension. Ancient Ancestors heaven meant above the earth (space).

Naturally no one wants to accept that all along there ancestors spoke of aliens because that means all along the "crazies" were right. So it's more accepting to be schizophrenic in the reality that god came from a higher dimension.

Sadly enough it's all correct. A microcosm the dreamer. The macrocosm the et.

The truth is though. Since we are all just brain waves. Which means that reincarnation can be explained in the way that everyone is a memory. And though you may not think of a memory all your life the memory was never forgotten.

Much like a hard drive thats been wiped clean yet the data uploaded on it still remains.

With that being said. Watch what you do in this life. Because all that you do in this effects what your gonna do in the next one. Thats why if you good you get heaven. If you've made fun of people who had a difference to you who done you no wrong. That is the fate of your next life to live in their shoes.

Is it time to accept that people who do not believe in aliens are schizophrenic? Seeing as how aliens not existing and earth being the only planet with life and or the center of the universe is a reality that is NOT existant!

Typically the word God is used to describe the creater of the universe itself.

The word Alien typically refers to extra-terrestrial life. Hence there is no way you could interchange "Creator of the universe" with "Life that evolved on a planet like Humans".

Just my thoughts anyway.

Maybe the universe is much more inhabited and eons more intelligent then our young race is.
Maybe there is a war going on. Perhaps this war has been going on for countless millennium.

This could come down to something as basic as a reptilian brain versus a mammal brain versus an insect brain.

The reptilian brain could be operating on a an ultra-paranoid fight or flight frame.
The mammalian brain could be operating on a fortify and thrive frame.
And the insect brain could be operating with a hive mentality of mass production.

Perhaps these basic life form mental frames could be endlessly battling it out over countless galaxies for all of time.

Here we are. A very young planet filled with these examples of consciousness.

We, the mammals are ahead at this point. But in the earlier years of this planet, the reptilians ruled. And they ruled for much longer than we have been around.
Perhaps some of these reptilians evolved and escaped.
I feel like the "hominid" form is the most efficient form on this particular planet. Perhaps a type of reptilian evolved into a hominid form and over millions of years, they evolved more and more and finally escaped this planet and entered the "world stage" of the universe.
Allot has happened since then, maybe they "escaped" planetary changes that wiped out their more primitive cousins. (except for the alligators and the sharks and roaches, they survived and evolved some more).

Well, maybe the whole intergalactic struggle is as simple as type versus type, or genus vs genus.

Maybe the demons talked about in the old religious texts are indeed reptilian or insect.
Maybe they are out to destroy us (subconsciously or naturally).

Maybe that is what all of our human religions allude to. The survival of the mammalian brain (soul).

After my first real science class (maybe around 8 years old) I remember thinking the same thing about "religion" and "aliens", other planets etc.

Also I remember thinking the claim of an anti-Christ would totally botch the plans of the real "Christ".

These are not my thoughts now.. but I am realizing why I have a hard time relating to people around me today.

I was thinking about aliens while the other kids were gluing popsicle solar systems together

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Is it time to accept that people who do not believe in aliens are schizophrenic?

Why you gotta bring us schizophrenics into this?

Firstly I do not call aliens ,aliens but rather beings I mean it is all perspective really,if there were visitors from another planet and they saw us to them we would then be aliens so I prefer to just call them beings,and I blame hollywood for portraying most of them as acid spitting flesh eating creatures...they are most probably very similar in makeup to us as humans are quite a sucessful design... The other thing is has anyone really seen God? The same could be said for visitors to this planet has anyone really seen one I don't know about you but I think the evidence of visitors to this planet even if it is an unexplained blurry picture or unexplained monument if far more compelling that an unseen fatherly figure in the clouds.... Just my opinion and I am not a christian btw I have a broad outlook on things

The aliens are just inter dimensional beings some are good some ain't good...
...but none are God.

reply to post by namine

How is it logical for someone who believes in the Bible God to not even consider the possibility of flesh and blood (like ourselves) aliens from a physical realm (like the one we know) somewhere out there?

It is comparing apples to oranges actually. I could compare belief in God to belief to likelihood of my spuds turning orange and the lousy comparasion would make about the same sense. Or asking "How could you wash your clothes at the river, when you could be flying a frisbee in New Zealand". That is to say, it matters much, much less the "thing" you compare to, and you could substitute an infinate variety of model comparasions in your statement as it reads, and it would still make that little sense.

Something as close and personal as ones spiritual journey, which almost a majourity of sentients share with their Maker, compared to an ultra-elusive alien crew who supposedly exist but so few of "you" can say you've met. I think your consideration of a material universe containing heavenly beings is your first misconception, although you seemed to have dumbed down any potential discussion of Divinity to a triviality.

Please do not forget God.

It seems every Christian I've spoken to snubs the mere thought of aliens from other solar systems.

Most 'snub' the concept that extraterrestrials are visiting this planet.

God (Bible God), by definition, is an extraterrestrial. So, if one believes in God, one not only believes in aliens, but that God is one too.

Do you truly believe that an alien created the Universe, the planets, the suns, and intelligent life? 

I've watched the Ancient Aliens documentaries and while the program has veered off course in a peculiar obsession to attach every myth and uncertainty to aliens, I still feel the main premise of the theory offers a more compelling argument for historic events than the Bible does -- both arguments have their flaws, for example there is a lack of concrete, physical evidence of alien visitation (unless you wanna count the pyramids...), but the same could be said about events in the Bible.

This is why - your gospel is a television show on the Freemason History Channel. The media is a pulpit, with the largest congregation in the world. Images, words, speech wash over you and are absorbed by your mind and heart. You are what you eat. Eat the Word and live. Eat the lie and die.

I feel that the Ancient Astronaut Theory has the edge in that an unobserved invisible realm with invisible beings doesn't need to exist for its aliens to be accepted, whereas the Bible needs a "Heaven" for its aliens to exist. So, is it not logical to replace God with aliens from outer space right about now? That is, if we're going to persist in believing in aliens from outer place interfered in our past.

Why do channeled 'alien messages' match the channeled messages from the occult, New Age religions, gurus, drug trips and shamans? Why do these supposed beings alternately claim to be ascended masters, spirit guides, extraterrestrials or human beings from our past or future? Why do they all go out of their way to deny that Christ Jesus was the Word in the flesh? Why do they all state that He alone is not the Saviour? Why do they all state that man is in essence, "god"? Try reading these messages and see that they lie, deceive, confuse and pass themselves off as various entities, and that in the process they have devotees across the world who, unbeknownst to each other, have all accepted the same message - that divinity is within, that we can be "god".

By the way, this goes without saying (but I'm going to say it anyway), not all Christians are contradictory in their beliefs, as I'm sure there are quite a few who are more open-minded, and it hasn't been my intention to bash anyone.

So, in other words, Christians who hold to the Truth as presented in scripture are close-minded? And that you are open-minded because you watch the propaganda on tv? Our Father is Creator of Heaven and Earth and the God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob. What He tells us is this - that man has a very serious and deadly condition. A propensity to not only believe that we are our own gods but that everything we do from this perspective leads us down the path of destruction. As little 'gods', we reject our Creator and choose to redefine good and evil, thus eventually disintegrating through redefining evil as good. As little 'gods', power is attractive. As little 'gods', we think that we determine our future. As little 'gods', we can start to make life and death decisions about other people. As little 'gods', the urge to create and modify nature begins. As little 'gods', we create monuments and buildings declaring our name to the world for adoration. As little 'gods', we become builders with hewn stone and sit in the best seats at the theatre and synagogues....and we begin to demand worship. We become the "Mighty Men" of the world. This is why the world was flooded - all men had become wicked in their vain imaginations. This is what happened at Babel. This is what Christ Jesus confronted in His earthly visit, and what He judged and condemned. 

The serpent's appeal to Eve
- you will be like God
- your eyes will be opened through this knowledge
- you will not die

She therefore perceived that the fruit was "good for food and pleasing to the eye, and also desirable for gaining wisdom" because of the serpents words. He targeted her desires.

This same tactic today is called the promise of "ascension", "spiritual awakening", "global consciousness", "spiritual evolution", "the Christ consciousness",  "evolution of consciousness", "the divinity within", "dimensional uplift", "transhumanism" and "transcendence".

It is preached everywhere through the world's pulpit, the media. It is preached in Freemasonry, Hinduism, Islamic Shi'ite, Mormonism, the New Age movement and from the little green men that are supposedly extraterrestrials. 

The serpent is a liar and deceiver. He's got a world convinced that their next "evolution" is around the corner.

. . . "Further, in light of the messages given by the UFO entities, how credible is it to think that literally thousands of genuine extraterrestrials would fly millions or billions of light years simply to teach New Age philosophy, deny Christianity, and support the occult? Why would they do this with the preponderance of such activity already occurring on this planet? And why would the entities actually possess and inhabit people just like demons do if they were really advanced extraterrestrials? Why would they consistently lie about things which we know are true, and why would they purposely deceive their contacts?" (6). John Ankerburg and John Weldon, "The Facts on UFOs and Other Supernatural Phenomena", Harvest House Publishers, 1992, p. 13. (As quoted from Missler, "Alien Encounters", p. 257)

"If the Son therefore shall make you free, ye shall be free indeed" (John 8:36).

I believe that demons are not real and that they are manifestations of our minds, meant to be meaning " fight ones own demons ". Demons are fears from your inner selves. It's all psychologically intertwined to scare you to obey the bible. We all have demons and they are caused by fear. Once you confront your fear then you will find happiness and spirituality and knowing ones self. People meditate to get answers from their subconscious which holds vast amount of data bit like our internet lol. The soul is the information highway to the cosmos. We are all energy and light is the fastest way to travel.

Originally posted by Sk8ergrl
I believe that demons are not real and that they are manifestations of our minds, meant to be meaning " fight ones own demons ". Demons are fears from your inner selves. It's all psychologically intertwined to scare you to obey the bible. We all have demons and they are caused by fear. Once you confront your fear then you will find happiness and spirituality and knowing ones self. People meditate to get answers from their subconscious which holds vast amount of data bit like our internet lol. The soul is the information highway to the cosmos. We are all energy and light is the fastest way to travel.

And then there are other people who don't believe your definition, and they are just as right as you are.

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Because heaven is not supposed to be a physical place.
Supposed to be a spiritual place which you can only get to through Jesus Christ.
Now, if you read the Bible properly there would be no need to author this thread, because your question would have been answered.

Originally posted by HIWATT

Originally posted by Sk8ergrl
I believe that demons are not real and that they are manifestations of our minds, meant to be meaning " fight ones own demons ". Demons are fears from your inner selves. It's all psychologically intertwined to scare you to obey the bible. We all have demons and they are caused by fear. Once you confront your fear then you will find happiness and spirituality and knowing ones self. People meditate to get answers from their subconscious which holds vast amount of data bit like our internet lol. The soul is the information highway to the cosmos. We are all energy and light is the fastest way to travel.

And then there are other people who don't believe your definition, and they are just as right as you are.

I've given you a star for standing up for your belief and I respect you for doing that. You are correct about people have their own definitions and so they should that's why I said that " I Believe " lol

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Extraterrestrials (if they do exist) are most likely organisms inhabiting another planet. There's no reason to suspect that they are supernatural entities capable of creating the fabric of existence as we know it.

What doesn't make sense to me is when religious people assume E.T.s are demons. It's as if they have to fit these things within the contextual framework of their scripture.

Our species, as an infinitesimal part of an immensely vast universe, tends to have an anthropocentric point of view. I am completely dumbfounded when people emphatically state that Earth is the only planet with life on it. Where is their incontrovertible evidence to prove this?

Yes, we have been fed a lot of malarkey about pretty much everything. Aliens are not a replacement for God but they can help us get over the nonsense of religion. Religions were imposed on Earth to control the minds and actions of people. There is nothing to fear and fear has been used as a tool to control us, much like money is a control tool
The universe is teeming with life but Earth has been cut off from the rest because it has been used as a prison for some real creeps, that now run the planet. This is going to end and Earth will have open contact with other beings that we call aliens. The creeps running the planet will be reincarnating elsewhere and it's about time. Things will get much better on Earth. Eventually all religion will die, although spirituality will grow. Just stay calm and cool and try to learn as much as you can about things you think are important. Death is nothing to fear and we should be at peace, our natural state. All is well and always will be. We are eternal and have much to learn in eternity.

Originally posted by Unity_99
No, we don't replace God with Aliens. God is Goodness and can be seen in two ways, The Good Family, and Dad/Mom, our Spiritual Parents for our Group. God can also be seen as, the Infinite Spirit of Love and Peace and Goodness And Equality that holds all things into being and connects all infinite souls. Read up on NDE's.

As an experiencer of ET, ET is the Spirit Projections of the Infinite Souls/Higher Selves who are in the Real World, Reality, outside the lower level duality testing grounds of who we are fractals or projections or a "seed" from our Tree, Tree referring to our Soul. Spirit is all the seeds of the Tree and/or a fractal of the infinite self. ET, is also spirit/projection/fractal and often a bigger seed, or bigger layer. And our spirit/souls are ET too, here. Only we're smaller layer of our soul operating under a veil of forgetfulness in the practicums where we're supposed to put what we learnt of Love and Light into practice here.

For we are infinite layers, that extend from denser to highest levels, we are limited to the viel. ET is not under the veil, unless they are in their own testing grounds. So Et is often called Angel/ET.

There are both sides of the duality represented however I don't really call negatives ET, more like Shadow type negatives.

This layer or universe is more like an artifiical mirrored reflection of the real world and a shadow or creational realm with Real Light and God/Goodness shining in to assist us in getting rid of the Error/Weakness/Lack of Love/Inequality/Distortion and Insanity that, that which is not Real ie. all that is Shadow, is.

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Very well put Unity!

Just to clarify one thing: are you saying that the Shadow type entities that some people get snatches of are Not ET (such as interdimensional beings) and if so what do you propose they are? I read that a lot of experiencers with sightings/abductions do report seeing and/or feeling shadow like presences after the initial sighting or visitation. Just curious if these are the same "shadow like" beings you are referring to.

Thanks!

ETA: there is plenty of debateable parts of the stories in the bible/legends that there could have been different "Gods" spoken of in the bible, especially if you consider the different attributes of the old and new testiments. I do personally believe in a One True Creator type God but feel we don't have the capacity in our limited senses to fully grasp what that entails in a broader sense or the liklely hood of being clued in by the people in the know if the Truth is out there.Like the OP said, it doesn't make sense for the One True God (Creator of All) to make mistakes or be so fickle unless there are different levels of creator Gods throughout the universe or we are being given only half truths or the history which makes up the bible is being mistranslated or purposely manipulated with an agenda.I do agree 100% with you that we are all experiencing and learning to live together as One in the school of Earth as well as there being higher level graduates going for their higher learning in the school of Universe and helping us as mentors and guides. I see Jesus as being a high level Earth guide (if not the highest in a soul developement ever seen since) sent to aid and help free us from enslavement in a spiritual sense. I mean no disrespect to you or anyone else who believes that Jesus is God. He may even be one of the Primodial Gods but I still strongly feel the One True Creator God of All That Is (in the greater sense) is beyond anything our imagination/capacity to understand can even fathom at this point in our developement. In either case, I strongly feel that Love and the Light of goodness and seeking truth and a sincere quest for knowledge and higher purpose is meaning for being in this world and striving to find a common ground with all will bring us full circle in the end and bring us Home at last.

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So why should we believe that this is the more accurate rendition of the Hebrew scripture? Why should we believe that this "Chronicle Project" holds more credence, when scholars who are paid for their accuracy haven't produced the same conclusions?