The time to buy a gun is now, Obama has nothing to lose now and the gun ban laws are already prepare

Reply to post by Tw0Sides

Because they think that Democrats are communists, socialists, evil people that are out to do all sorts.

Let's face it, Democrats are called progressives for a reason, and conservatives are called conservative for a reason.

Progressives are about PROGRESS, Conservatives are about CONSERVING.

You may love America the way the Constitution was intended, but for humankind to progress, some political ideals need to be influenced by progressive types, and gun-loving republicans aint the progressive ones, they're the ones wanting to conserve an old America, whereas most want change.


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Originally posted by domasio
Reply to post by Tw0Sides

 

Because they think that Democrats are communists, socialists, evil people that are out to do all sorts.

Let's face it, Democrats are called progressives for a reason, and conservatives are called conservative for a reason.

Progressives are about PROGRESS, Conservatives are about CONSERVING.

You may love America the way the Constitution was intended, but for humankind to progress, some political ideals need to be influenced by progressive types, and gun-loving republicans aint the progressive ones, they're the ones wanting to conserve an old America, whereas most want change.

 

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That has to be one of the most simplistic views of the political parties I've ever seen.

Maybe you should read a book that details the history of the political parties in America. I think you'd be extremely surprised to see where they came from and where they have ended up.

I look at so called "progressive" countries with liberal leaning government like the UK and no, I want no part of it in my country. When you learn that socialism taken to it's extreme is fascism you might get a clue why liberal, progressive England is even more of a police state than America.

The lack of "progress" in places like America is a direct result of a public that has lost it's education and has no will to do what's required to eliminate the corruption.

I think if anything, there will be a heavily saturated underground market for guns. I am Canadian, and I don't own a gun.. But if you tell me I can't have a gun, I sure as # am going to get one now.

Originally posted by LittleBlackEagle
i have a feeling obama will be replacing several cabinet members even before the years out, just a hunch.

there have been several issues that i'm on the fence with when it comes to barry and he's hard to read on gun control, as apposed to cabinet members and legislation and of course the "let's make a deal" politics that goes on day after day in DC. i'm hoping he now has the leverage to tell some in DC to go to hell, we're getting this fixed.

i think BO has much larger things to address instead of wallowing in the mud of gun control, but i suppose we shall all witness it for ourselves at this point.

am i psychotic er um psychic or what?


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Holder Announces He Might Not Stay On As Attorney General

BALTIMORE (CBSDC) — Attorney General Eric Holder might not be sticking around for a second term.

Holder told law school students at the University of Baltimore School of Law that he does not know if he will stay in his job.

“That’s something that I’m in the process now of trying to determine,” Holder said. “I have to think about, can I contribute in a second term?”

Holder says he needs to sit down with his family and President Obama to see if he wants to continue on the job.

Originally posted by captaintyinknots
Somebody was listening to Glenn Beck this morning.

I'll say it outright: Guns will not be banned and this is nothing more than a scare tactic.

This is the second quote to the thread and should have put all of this exaggeration to rest. We the People will never give up our guns. Ever.

To the OP: please educate yourself.

Respectfully,

Lima-1, out.

Originally posted by LeatherNLace
OP,

Obama has made no mention of coming after guns. Even if he wanted to, he would need a democrat majority in both houses of congress. Even if he had a majority in both houses of congress, taking away guns would be political suicide for the democrats and would ensure a republican run on all offices in following elections.

Congratulations for buying into, and parroting, the NRA propaganda; which is repeated in perpetuity in order to sell more guns so they can get their kickback on the sales.

You own a gun? Great! I do too. But I don't need 17 of them; one works just fine.

NRA propaganda? Please give a source to that, sir. I'm not dismissing you, I just want to see where you are getting your info from.

Lima-1, out.

Originally posted by sylent6
Its topics like these will sooner or later to have everyones guns revoke

Why is everyone so quick to draw and buy a gun? What will people do if shtf...NOTHING

Guns wont protect you if you don't know what to do with it in a worse case scenario.

If they were to ban guns tomorrow and every authority in the u.s. came to door to door, what will you do....shoot back? Hell no, you will go to prison or be dead in front of your doorstep.

Hear hear....this geezer has said it the best. Good man spot on.

Of course Obama is not going to ban guns, BUT doesn't mean he isn't going to make it harder to get ammo. You can't do anything with a gun if you do not have bullets, and have you been out to buy bullets lately? The supplies are getting smaller, and many places can't tell you when they will be getting more in.

Originally posted by Watcher777
Of course Obama is not going to ban guns, BUT doesn't mean he isn't going to make it harder to get ammo. You can't do anything with a gun if you do not have bullets, and have you been out to buy bullets lately? The supplies are getting smaller, and many places can't tell you when they will be getting more in.

order online in bulk or reload your own, plenty of stock can be found online and most places have it on your doorstep in 2-3 days.

Yea.. there are a million threads from 2009 saying the same thing.

Yeah. Run, Forest! Rurn and geet yur gurns! Yeeeeee haaaaaw!

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Excellent advice. Stock up on guns & ammo. The price of everything is going to go up. More QE (quantitative easing) inflation, another downgrade by Moody (which will raise the interest rate the US pays on debt), higher fuel costs, higher taxes, $1,000 a year Obamacare penalties, etc., etc.

Buy now. You won't regret it.

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Weelllllllll, based on history, some bills get passed prior to somethings in the bill being discovered. I mean, we all know plenty, plenty of bills dont get read by our representatives who then vote on them.

Remember this one - "We have to pass it to see what's in it." oh yeah, that one passed too!

Just saying.

These are politicians we are dealing with... politicians... you know... professional liars or, truth benders.

Originally posted by domasio
Reply to post by Tw0Sides

 

Because they think that Democrats are communists, socialists, evil people that are out to do all sorts.

Let's face it, Democrats are called progressives for a reason, and conservatives are called conservative for a reason.

Progressives are about PROGRESS, Conservatives are about CONSERVING.

You may love America the way the Constitution was intended, but for humankind to progress, some political ideals need to be influenced by progressive types, and gun-loving republicans aint the progressive ones, they're the ones wanting to conserve an old America, whereas most want change.

 

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So why can't conservatives keep America the way they love it and everyone who wants change can move to somewhere other than America??

Just because it's called progressIVE, doesn't inherently mean it's good. Life has fundamentally gone unchanged forever, know why, cuz we always die. Some just live longer than others, whoopty do.

If we start at freedom, what are we to progress to?

Historically speaking, when government progresses, where does that take humankind?

Individuals are valuable when it comes to progress, not government.

You mean progressIVE like ridding the world of poverty... or world peace... or free marijuana - riiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiight, ok bub. Gubmint ain't progressing towards either of those... if we free marijuana from its oppression, it's individuals that accomplish that, not government, not politicians. But if you want to be progressIVE and grow government, you deserve what you get.... the only problem, you take the rest of the country with you.

Oh, this isn't mob rule is it??

Originally posted by OperationIraqiFailure

Originally posted by LeatherNLace
OP,

Obama has made no mention of coming after guns. Even if he wanted to, he would need a democrat majority in both houses of congress. Even if he had a majority in both houses of congress, taking away guns would be political suicide for the democrats and would ensure a republican run on all offices in following elections.

Congratulations for buying into, and parroting, the NRA propaganda; which is repeated in perpetuity in order to sell more guns so they can get their kickback on the sales.

You own a gun? Great! I do too. But I don't need 17 of them; one works just fine.

NRA propaganda? Please give a source to that, sir. I'm not dismissing you, I just want to see where you are getting your info from.

Lima-1, out.

Here is a link dating back to 2008 debunking the NRA's anti-Obama, fear-mongering propaganda: www.factcheck.org...

That same propaganda machine is still alive and well to this day. Yet, there is not, nor has there been, a single piece of anti-gun legislation brought to the floor of congress since Obama has been in office. In fact, as you will read in the link I provided, Obama strongly supports the 2nd Amendment.

Originally posted by MystikMushroom
You do realize the chances of these bills actually gaining traction and being put on the floor is very small, right?

If you ever get a chance to look into the sheer number of bills introduced that never go anywhere, you'd feel a whole lot better.

I don't have the time now to check on the status of these bills, but I'd reckon that they've been shelved or are being sat on/burried in sub-committies.

They have a tremendous chance. The President can use an executive order, which Congress can't override directly. They can only enact legislation that counters it, which the President will then veto.

/TOA

Originally posted by LeatherNLace

Originally posted by OperationIraqiFailure

Originally posted by LeatherNLace
OP,

Obama has made no mention of coming after guns. Even if he wanted to, he would need a democrat majority in both houses of congress. Even if he had a majority in both houses of congress, taking away guns would be political suicide for the democrats and would ensure a republican run on all offices in following elections.

Congratulations for buying into, and parroting, the NRA propaganda; which is repeated in perpetuity in order to sell more guns so they can get their kickback on the sales.

You own a gun? Great! I do too. But I don't need 17 of them; one works just fine.

NRA propaganda? Please give a source to that, sir. I'm not dismissing you, I just want to see where you are getting your info from.

Lima-1, out.

Here is a link dating back to 2008 debunking the NRA's anti-Obama, fear-mongering propaganda: www.factcheck.org...

That same propaganda machine is still alive and well to this day. Yet, there is not, nor has there been, a single piece of anti-gun legislation brought to the floor of congress since Obama has been in office. In fact, as you will read in the link I provided, Obama strongly supports the 2nd Amendment.

edit on 9-11-2012 by LeatherNLace because: (no reason given)

I guess you didn't see the debate where he agrees that so-called "assault weapons" don't belong off the battlefield. Assault weapons: misrepresented to ignorant sheep since 1994.

/TOA

Originally posted by Tw0Sides

Originally posted by SrWingCommander
Take a democrat shooting...they see how fun it is, and change their tune.

edit on 7-11-2012 by SrWingCommander because: (no reason given)

Why do you think Dems dont own, and like owning guns.
The 2nd Ammendant was written for all Americans to Exercise.

Because as a whole, they are against gun rights.
Please go and look at the Dem controlled areas of the Country.

This is not brain surgery here.

Originally posted by Grey_Mysterio

Originally posted by sylent6
Its topics like these will sooner or later to have everyones guns revoke

Why is everyone so quick to draw and buy a gun? What will people do if shtf...NOTHING

Guns wont protect you if you don't know what to do with it in a worse case scenario.

If they were to ban guns tomorrow and every authority in the u.s. came to door to door, what will you do....shoot back? Hell no, you will go to prison or be dead in front of your doorstep.

Hear hear....this geezer has said it the best. Good man spot on.

I wouldn't put my life on that. You'd better believe MOST will shoot back. I don't think Obama or any President will ever try to take our guns. They'd be stupid to try.

Lima-1, out.

Interesting subject matter no doubt! The issue of gun legislation is unique to the United States and its a fascinating dicotomy of both sides of the issue. It will be interesting what Obama does this term because he can't run again and his legacy has the opportunity to remain depending on what he enacts.

As I live in New York State, we've seen some of the most restrictive, and insane, gun laws in the country. Most gun legislation makes hardly any sense and does little to protect the public but hammers the law-abiding citizen. Most gun legislation is "feel-good" legislation and does nothing to protect the public. Now if they really wanted to hammer gun owners they would limit or restrict public sales, limit or restrict online gun and ammo sales, and outlaw re-loading by the private individual.

For now I'll continue to enjoy my Glocks, my S&W, and my M4. See ya!