I knew my mom was zealous about Romney, but...

Hard core Romney supporters are going to be a little on edge tomorrow, so I advise avoiding crossing your mom's path at all costs OP.

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It's all cool now, so I'll be fine.
I'll still be tiptoeing a little though, because there's no telling what her mood will be like.

My grandparents taught me the system of ballots is an anonymous one. I've grown up and actually came to work for the county elections this year because they seriously needed the help.

One thing is for certain. The people that know who voted for what in each county is small a handful and they swear an oath before working in whatever job they fit into doing. Too many votes to count too many people to remember .. essentially that ballot has no name attached.

The fact such elaborate systems are concocted to make the ballots anonymous and private is grand and far reaching as well as self explanatory. it was so no one would be harassed, judged, or disadvantaged for having an opinion. That booths where it counts, your REPRESENTATIVE is the one who is put in the place of being outspoken and avatar to your beliefs. Doesn't that make sense?

WHICH DRIVES ME NUTS when people give up their freedom/privacy (they are one and the same) to keep their mouth shut and then complain after the fact after demonstrating they deserve neither.

maybe thats too old school conservative for some.

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The young and liberal vs the old and conservative...

Stand strong!

Originally posted by EllaMarina
I never thought this would happen.

My mom (a Romney fan) and I went to the polling place. The wait felt approximately as long as the line for a semi-popular ride at Disney World during busy season. But none of this mattered much, because I was eager to add my vote for Gary Johnson.

In the line, I arranged a day out with my mom tomorrow. We would have a great time. Today would be a good day too. Vote for Gary Johnson, go home, get some coffee, relax.

But it wasn't to be...
In the car after we were done voting, she asked me if I voted Republican, and I told her the truth without thinking.
She-- blew-- UP.

She said some pretty creative things that I didn't think a person would ever be inclined to say to one's own daughter.
"You are so stupid"... "I feel like I have a traitor in my own home"... "I asked you to do this ONE THING for me"... (For a few minutes I thought she was going to kick me out of the house.) Her biggest rant was that I just wasted my vote, and that I basically gave one to Obama.

I made the point that a vote is only wasted if it's for someone you don't believe in. I also mentioned sadly that this election has divided everyone like no other, family member against family member. She scoffed icily at everything I said, and continued on to say that she never even heard of Gary Johnson at all... and then that I knew nothing of politics and couldn't possibly make an informed decision...

I'm alone in my room now. I'm kind of scared of how she'll act towards me. One thing's for sure, our nice day out tomorrow is probably called off.
I wanted so much to make the point that this country is based on freedom, and that includes the freedom to vote for who I want. But it wouldn't have made a difference.

edit on 6-11-2012 by EllaMarina because: (no reason given)

I'm sorry Ella! I think most people including your mom are ignorant of the truth and every 4 years they think by ousting the present leader (that is a corporate lackey) will change things! only problem is both the Dems and Repubs answer to the same master! You probably already know this but maybe what you don't know is that your mom is probably insecure, scared and unsure about the future as we all pretty much are! Maybe she is trying to create security through anything she has any influence in! This is why she has gotten so angry at you! moms usually think they know what's best! I believe what you should do is try and pacify her by telling her that you made an error in judgement by voting for Johnson! Next time I would suggest you don't discuss politics or religion with those closest to you! Sometimes we need to placate those closest to us with untruths especially if the outcome is moot! Goodluck to you Ella and remember family is way more important then the democratic illusion of choice!

Wow, I had my mom blow up at me several times, so I know how you feel OP.

Usually, I take things with a grain of salt, but when her words cut really deep, I just tell myself that next spring I'm going to LA.

Perhaps you will understand the deeper meaning of your vote, when the U.S. government comes knocking for
the 218+ THOUSAND dollars that you already owe!

Bless your soul, you didn't even know, did you........

Pax

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I am just sick and tired of all the two-party hate. No doubt Obama voters will just stoke the flames of hate tomorrow and for the next four years (Romney voters would do the same if he had won), and more relationships and friendships will suffer as a result. Partisans are just completely mean, selfish, and they would exploit any issue to make their stupid partisan point.

I am truly an independent and it is clear to me that Obama voters and Romney voters are all ignorant, blind haters who really haven't got a clue. Both sets of voters could not be more alike and it is completely ridiculous that they actually believe they are different from one another.

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You did NOTHING wrong. It was YOUR right to vote for whom YOU thought was the best candidate for the job. You did not waste your vote. Your mom, sadly is just 1 more person who believes it is their way or the highway. And such a mind set is what got our country into this huge mess in the first place. Be proud of yourself for voting the way that you did. NEVER let anyone tell you HOW or WHO to vote for. Freedom is a right in this country, whether someone likes your choice or not, you are free to have that choice. Tomorrow is a new day. Let her be mad, but continue to stand your ground. Eventually she will get over it.

Keep your head up! Your vote was a well thought out and intelligent vote! You did something a majority of Americans can't do, knowing a candidates stance on all the issues and voting accordingly. You didn't buy into all the propaganda, political ads that stretch the truth, spin doctors, bias reporting and polls. It may take awhile, but more and more Americans will soon become disgusted with the system and slowly break down this wall that shuts out the voices of candidates that have dissenting views.

Originally posted by captaintyinknots
Your mom's comment of "I asked you to do this one thing for me" is flat out illegal, let alone selfish and ignorant. Does she know she can be fined for trying to influence your vote in such a way?

This type of intimidation tactic is exactly what is wrong with this country today.

While I disagree with this mom's approach(mine would have been I may disagree with you but you have the right to vote the way you want, and this is also what I tell my husband) , something tells me you would opt to use the girl for a snitch to Big Brother because you hate Christians who believe in Capitalism with a vengeance. If you supported Obama this go round, you support voter fraud, outright lies, and treasonous behavior in the highest office in the land.

Well done on sticking to what you believe and voting for the free world. To quote a friend 'A Romney/Cameron period would be much much worse than a Reagan/Thatcher ever was'. Thankyou America for having the sense enough to see just what a threat was posed and reacting accordingly.

Yours very hopefully

chaz

Originally posted by EllaMarina
reply to post by PutAQuarterIn

 

It's all cool now, so I'll be fine.

I'll still be tiptoeing a little though, because there's no telling what her mood will be like.

I disagree with your Mom's approach, mine is to respect the rights of family members. However I do suspect that in her desire to save her country from becoming more of the 3rd world pit that Obama is turning it into in such a short time because he literally hates America and thinks that cutting it down to size will fix things right up with the rest of the world, all that leveling the playing field and whatnot, your mom overlooked the importance of being the teacher. But I understand why she did it. I hope you and your mom can work through it and open some dialog. When she realizes the voting machines likely were tampered with to force an Obama victory, she may change her tune. Maybe you could explore why your Mom feels so passionate about this. Ask her and listen to her answer.

It was -your- vote to cast and nobody, not even your Mother can take that from you. A true American honors the right of choice. Nothing else need be said.

Originally posted by Thescripter
Thanks for voting!

Hopefully this will all be over soon and everyone can relax a bit.
In my area there was zero wait time to vote, from leaving the car to getting back in

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Voting has consequences, I suppose.

Originally posted by Skyfloating
Lesson: Keep it to yourself. People take this much too serious. Ive seen Obamney voters go bat#-crazy when told someone thinks differently than them. If they cant tolerate any views than their own they are brainwashed loons.

All the more reason not to stay silent. The left want conservatives to stay silent, that way they win. The left is good at yelling. Conservatives need to meet the left's ranting with a firm and vocal reply, not that they have to adopt the dishonest tactics used by the left.

Originally posted by TC Mike

Originally posted by Skyfloating
Lesson: Keep it to yourself. People take this much too serious. Ive seen Obamney voters go bat#-crazy when told someone thinks differently than them. If they cant tolerate any views than their own they are brainwashed loons.

All the more reason not to stay silent. The left want conservatives to stay silent, that way they win. The left is good at yelling. Conservatives need to meet the left's ranting with a firm and vocal reply, not that they have to adopt the dishonest tactics used by the left.

No. All people need to shut the f up and leave people to make their own choices based on their own opinions. Right or left, it's none of your business who someone else votes for.

This is the fundamental problem with politics in the USA, you're all in each others faces, telling everyone else who they should vote for. Stay out of other peoples lives! It's nothing to do with you who someone votes for! You have absolutely no right to be directing anyone else in how they vote.

In most countries people keep their voting to themselves, they don't cheer lead like lunatic lemmings at a football game. Most nations have some dignity about it all, they treat it as a personal choice and recognize that everyone has the right to their own opinion. But in the US you have reached the point where companies are THREATENING their own employees into supporting someone!

Americans need to get some freakin' dignity. Far too many are too busy screaming at everyone else to try to convince them to vote one way or another, and losing their sh*t over a politician. They wear uniforms an colours like sports fans, wave flags and signs like brainless drones, all they need is a few girls in shorts skirts and waving pompoms in the air and you have a full on farce!

Why can't Americans just let people see the information, and then make their own decision?

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Are you slow or something?

Unless this is a troll thread or something, I think it's pretty stupid of family members to berate other family members for voting for whoever they please.

Originally posted by ThirdEyeofHorus

Originally posted by EllaMarina
reply to post by PutAQuarterIn

 

It's all cool now, so I'll be fine.

I'll still be tiptoeing a little though, because there's no telling what her mood will be like.

I disagree with your Mom's approach, mine is to respect the rights of family members. However I do suspect that in her desire to save her country from becoming more of the 3rd world pit that Obama is turning it into in such a short time because he literally hates America and thinks that cutting it down to size will fix things right up with the rest of the world, all that leveling the playing field and whatnot, your mom overlooked the importance of being the teacher. But I understand why she did it. I hope you and your mom can work through it and open some dialog. When she realizes the voting machines likely were tampered with to force an Obama victory, she may change her tune. Maybe you could explore why your Mom feels so passionate about this. Ask her and listen to her answer.

This is the most absurd and condecending thing I've read in this thread, you were an inch away from telling us that Obama is the antechrist and that her mom failed OP's education.