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Originally posted by Maslo
reply to post by thisguyrighthere
Why does mankind spend so much time and energy caring for all of it's weakest members only to later come up with ways to limit the amount of them on the planet?
Because it is a humane thing to do?
Killing the patient cures the disease, that does not mean it is right. Helping the weak and at the same time trying to lower the numbers of the weak is thus the only ethical alternative.edit on 7/11/12 by Maslo because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by PerfectAnomoly
reply to post by khimbar
You've kind of cherry picked my argument there to fit your own personal attack...
If you read the whole post you will notice I talk about the things a child needs to be raised effectively in our society... these things are not culturally dependant... and even if they are we live in a society that has moral guidelines.... these have been developed and updated as we have developed as a civilisation...
Financial security, a sense of purpose, intelligence, social awareness, psychological stability.... all of these are required to raise a healthy, contributing and socially responsible individual..
My personal morals have no bearing on this discussion...
PA
Originally posted by PerfectAnomoly
reply to post by khimbar
And no, this post is not about Eugenics... although I can see how you mis-intepreted....
It is about protecting children from being born into unsuitable environments...
I am a liberal at heart... but I have some conservative traits!
PA
'the science of improving a breed or species through the careful selection of parents'. How isn't what you're suggesting eugenics again please? Or is it ok cos it's for the 'sake of the children'?
Originally posted by Maslo
reply to post by khimbar
'the science of improving a breed or species through the careful selection of parents'. How isn't what you're suggesting eugenics again please? Or is it ok cos it's for the 'sake of the children'?
It is not eugenics, because he was not suggesting "improving the breed". Eugenics is about improving human genome, thats what "genic" means in the word. For example, the Chinese control reproduction, but they are not eugenicists, because they do it for different reasons than genetics.edit on 9/11/12 by Maslo because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by PerfectAnomoly
To grow our slightly broken society beneficially we need people of good moral standing,
Genesis' means origin doesn't it? From the Greek. 'Eu' (well) 'genesis' (born). Nothing to do with the genome? He's suggesting this.
Eugenics is the applied science of the bio-social movement which advocates the use of practices aimed at improving the genetic composition of a population, usually a human population.
Originally posted by chasingbrahman
Originally posted by rival
Sorry, but you can't have a Bill Hicks avatar and espouse forced birth control over others..
,,,,it is against the law
Pardon my OT comment, but I thought that was a very young Alex Jones. Are they the same person?
Originally posted by Maslo
reply to post by khimbar
Genesis' means origin doesn't it? From the Greek. 'Eu' (well) 'genesis' (born). Nothing to do with the genome? He's suggesting this.
The definition of eugenics:
Eugenics is the applied science of the bio-social movement which advocates the use of practices aimed at improving the genetic composition of a population, usually a human population.
en.wikipedia.org...
Eugenics is about genetics.edit on 9/11/12 by Maslo because: link
It is a social philosophy for the improvement of human hereditary traits through the promotion of higher reproduction of certain people and traits, and the reduction of reproduction of other people and traits
It is a social philosophy for the improvement of human hereditary traits through the promotion of higher reproduction of certain people and traits, and the reduction of reproduction of other people and traits
Which is what the OP is suggesting.
Originally posted by PerfectAnomoly
What form would this test take? Who would be responsible for judging people? So many questions…
purely because of who their parents are and the decisions that they made prior to bringing them into this world