Is the New York Riot of 2012 be the Trigger to Martial Law?

I dont know about you guys, but to me, the PERFECT STORM has hit the City of New York, and, in my opinion, the White House.

If anyone wanted to shout "Martial Law! Obama's gonna declare Martial Law!", now would be the time.

If the situation Post Sandy in NYC continues to get worse, I think that the city is risking to lose control of the population as tensions continue to sky rocket.

The rescue efforts by FEMA at this point is less than spectacular. The Red Cross is handing out candy instead of much needed blankets and dry clothes. WHERE DOES ALL THE MONEY THAT RED CROSS GETS GO?

Could this condition caused by the Storm be the Perfect Storm for riots to break out? Neighbor against Neighbor? People taking it out on the Utility workers? Gas station operators? People stealing from one another?

NYC is a POWDER KEG waiting to be lit.

Or, has the fuse already been lit?

Would Obama use this moment in history to declare Martial Law and suspend the elections?

Oh my...

Speaking of this, does anyone find it quite odd that when other countries require aid, America rushes to their rescue while almost breaking their legs in the process to get it to them? YET when one of OUR OWN STATES require any aid, its mediocre to NOTHING and takes forever to get there it at all??

American TAX PAYERS getting the shaft as usual...

Then there is the fact that the news is undereporting the severity of the situation over there so that it doesn't panic the nice voters.

Despots have to get reelected somehow, I suppose

I think declaring this may fly inside the disaster zone. People are too busy to get political and fight right now. Surviving is a rather high priority, I'm sure.

Outside those 10-13 states that felt some level of impact, life is just as normal today as a week ago or a month ago. Nothing has changed to make people here accept such a thing any more now than we would have before Sandy hit that other region.

He'd need the New Madrid or something similar...and a whammy on the West Coast to cover LA, SF, Portland and Seattle..all at once. That's quite a tall order. Even riots after the election would make no sense in all those key cities, at the same time. Either side, IMO.

*I came back to add.....it shouldn't be ignored as something inside the disaster zone tho. Hmm.. That is still millions of people for a dry run, if nothing else. Stay vigilant eh?

reply to post by phantomjack


I Definitely had that concern too, but I think there is more potential for rioting after the election.
I feel the emotions are high enough right now that post election riots are possible.

If Romney wins the election could Obama still issue martial law after the elections?

What result would cause more potential for rioting, a Romney win or Obama win?

I think a good question is should martial law be declared in the worst hit regions? Could making the biggest messes a direct responsibility of the federal government be a good thing?

Martial law is so sexy.

Originally posted by Mkoll
Then there is the fact that the news is undereporting the severity of the situation over there so that it doesn't panic the nice voters.

Despots have to get reelected somehow, I suppose

edit on 3-11-2012 by Mkoll because: (no reason given)

That's not true the news coverage here on Sandy is very dramatic and they are not holding it back.

To the op, power has been restored in the city and people seem positive, we are tough people and go with the punches. NY is like disneyland as far as crime nowadays (police state), if anyone is going to go nuts and riot look to NJ. They have been hit the hardest and have already had major looting and burglaries.

There is an emergency somewhere? Heck in Nor-Cal everything is just peachy, went hot air ballooning this morning and had a big fat breakfast afterwards. Kinda like the wars in the M.E. we are so far removed we just go about our lives like nothing is wrong.

It is a strange time and place we live in lately. Martial law? Only if someone gets caught steal from someone armed....

It is amazing just how unprepared many of the people in Sandy were. It should be a good wake-up call for those of us that do not realize just how fast everything can go bad. I see stuff like what is happening in N.Y. and I just can't tell you how happy I am living on a giant ranch with heavily armed neighbors, water wells, and most importantly thousands of gallons of gas, diesel and propane stored at all times, and plenty of food....

Good luck world!

OP ... thanks for posting this.

I was about to start a thread on this same topic yesterday, but didn't have access to my computer at the time.

Look at this picture i snapped with my cellphone of the local NY Ch 4 newscast... the helicopter was on it's way back up north from covering the devastation down the shore when the reporter said to his pilot "hey look over there" and THIS is what they saw...

STAGING area? C'mon... this is aircraft carrier is there full of servicemen for when the half million people in Manhattan who still don't have power start getting extremely rowdy.

I have NOT seen this reported on since NBC shot this footage... i think they got a phone call from Uncle Sam saying "if you show that again, you'll be sorry ...we came unannounced for a reason"

They said on the newscast that this aircraft carrier was around 3 miles off the cost.

There is a lot more coming too...

The US Navy is also sending ships. The first to arrive is the helicopter carrier USS Wasp (LHD-1) which was originally sent out to sea to escape Hurricane Sandy and how has been sent to the New Jersey coast to help survivors. Also on their way are the amphibious transport dock ships, USS San Antonio (LPD-17) and USS Carter Hall ('___'-50). Massachusetts Maritime Academy is also dispatching the 576 foot training ship, T.S. Kennedy, to serve as temporary housing for relief workers.

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I'd think people would be very happy. The Navy does two things, in my opinion and they do them both exceptionally well. They kill people and break stuff ....... and they save people and supply aid in disasters. They didn't come into a Hurricane disaster zone to shoot up the place. They do the disaster relief thing for a living though, and they don't have profit in it either way. Real help has arrived! Go Navy!

reply to post by Wrabbit2000

as much as i want to rah-rah alongside ya, information was recently received that some additional Army units will be assisting as well. (should we be alarmed or relieved ?)

not that the Army assisting is bad in any way, they assisted in Katrina ... but ... both, at once ?? *** raised my eyebrow ***

reply to post by Honor93
As I mentioned before Sandy hit, one of the better books I've read about the Hurricane Andrew destruction and response was from an NCO in the 10th Mountain Division. Regular federal troops type 10th Mountain. I'd say it's a good thing. The U.S. Army is among the best at doing almost anything with virtually nothing. If they can't do it, they have the phone number to call the Navy Seabees. I just checked and those guys are still in business.

This is New York....millions of people in a place they can't all just leave. Unlike New Orleans, this can't 'just wait'. Ever seen the movie "Escape From New York"? I dare say and I am NOT making a joke here, if New York is treated as half ass as New Orleans was for moving fast......it will become a very dangerous and brutal situation up there just by how many people become desperate or just pissed in such a small area.

I am giving Obama more and more credit for this. I want his silly butt out of my White House, but I'd say he may well be building his legacy right here. Moving the Military IS 100% the power of the President. Bush didn't do it to the extent I think he should have....Obama IS. It's a good thing. 100% good, IMO.

Already asked the question :

Do you think Obama will declare Martial Law / State of Emergency after Sandy ?

now people seems to accept more and more the idea
when i asked .. people were laughing

now it become more and more plausible .. sadly

reply to post by phantomjack


And just who's elections would he suspend? While I am no fan of the president or his policies, this farce notion that he will suspend elections is beyond belief. You do realize that each state in the Union is responsible for their elections and getting 50 governors to go along with his plans will be a tough sell.

I don't see this happening at all. Then again, I have acquired a taste for my foot over my many years.

reply to post by Wrabbit2000

ok, we'll see.
i didn't say it was a bad thing just that it raised my eyebrow.
i certainly don't wish to see a repeat of either Andrew or Katrina, both were poorly handled.

as for the movement, i am surprised, does this surprise you ??
mr election man considering the common man ... when does that ever happen ?

please don't mull over the possibilities cause at this point, it could realistically go either way.
as i am far from NY and not intimately familiar with their current dilemma, i cannot reasonably read between the lines being drawn here.
[thinking about both Katrina and Andrew makes my blood boil for many more reasons than Mother Nature's hinderance ... in NY, they simply don't have the patience and that's not good]

from prior experience, i hope those in need realize, it could be worse.
many members of my family are either there (repair) or on the way to help.
community cooperation goes a long way ... and stone soup has fed many hungry bellies.

however, neither survival or endurance are things the government can provide.

reply to post by Honor93

I hear ya on the personal side of knowing folks. A good friend of mine last updated everyone at another site that he was going to work security at Rockaways. That was a couple nights ago... Now I recall Occupy and when things are wild in a situation, no one is thinking about phoning out to update people outside the immediate situation. I hope thats all..but yeah. I'm concerned too.

I also hope I'm reading things right about the Military. it doesn't surprise me though because it's the election. I'll bet Obama flat told everyone in his Cabinet AND the JCS to just "do it". Whatever it takes, however much it costs, whatever has to happen.....just Do it. Well, we're seeing it done and whatever the motivation may be, the people benefit and that'd all that matters, right?

If I'm wrong...and your fears are well founded, then knowing in advance won't have helped much anyway when you consider that in a real sense. Not at this point anyway. I'm trying to temper my own comments so it doesn't cause more stress to people checking in for info from inside that zone and maybe not with time to get the whole picture from all sources..

reply to post by phantomjack


Which gov't agency do you work for?

There isn't going to be a riot...except for the one in your head.

Originally posted by Observationalist
reply to post by phantomjack

 

I Definitely had that concern too, but I think there is more potential for rioting after the election.
I feel the emotions are high enough right now that post election riots are possible.

If Romney wins the election could Obama still issue martial law after the elections?

What result would cause more potential for rioting, a Romney win or Obama win?

edit on 3-11-2012 by Observationalist because: Better language

edit on 3-11-2012 by Observationalist because: Same as above

edit on 3-11-2012 by Observationalist because: (no reason given)

Yes, and that could result in a suspension of the vote count...because we all know the wednesday morning results will not be conclusive.

Originally posted by VaterOrlaag
reply to post by phantomjack

 

Which gov't agency do you work for?

There isn't going to be a riot...except for the one in your head.

LOL. Ok.

Nice talking with you!