Things to consider in case of post-election riots

Since there is continuous (and it appears increasing) talk of riots if the election does not go as some spoiled punks want it to, I thought I'd share the suggested considerations laid out in this article

www.naturalnews.com...

It is actually a very good list of preparation suggestions.

1. Avoid inner urban city areas if at all possible. (Of course, this means AFTER you have voted. - and P.S. Vote early. Participate in early voting if you can and if not, then vote early on election day.)

Now, with that said, I completely disagree with the next statement made in the first suggestion:

Middle-class and upper-class suburbs will be safe, by the way. It's mostly the inner cities that are likely to riot.

I totally disagree. While the inner cities would most likely be where the riot STARTS, we have the whole "Bane" Dark Knight concept that has been introduced into our society and I do not believe we would see just a "Watts" type riot. I believe those who exhibit the anger being shown right now would take it to the people they are angry at. Metropolitan areas (including suburbia) should be at heightened awareness.

2. "The police will be almost instantly overwhelmed." Agreed. And while the governors of states have the ability to call up national guard, that takes time.

3. "One of the greatest risks from riots is FIRES." Agreed. And the issue with fires is that they aren't predictable and may not be controllable (based on environmental conditions). If there is a strong wind, all bets off as to how quickly and how far the destruction could spread. Since most punks who would be willing to participate in a destructive riot would most likely be armed, the idea that fire departments being rendered incapacitated due to threat of being shot is a valid concern.

4. Innocent bystanders may be targets. Suffice it to say, in a riot situation where harm and destruction are the motivating goals, everyone targetted is an innocent bystander. The article states "don't be in the wrong place at the wrong time", which to me equates back to 1. above....avoid metropolitan, heavily populated areas, especially those with high crime rates.

5. Don't join in the riots. Well, that's a stupid statement. If you're joining in the riots you're part of the problem. I'm not talking to you and hope you don't succeed.

6. Remove political signs from yard on election day. This is a good idea. At that point the effect of your loyalty is a moot point. People are voting and seeing your sign on their way to vote, work, riot, isn't going to have any positive effect. (You're not going to change anyone's mind.) You'll just be flagging yourself as a target from the opposing (bitter) side.

7. Stock up on at least 3 days of supplies. I think you should stock up on a week's worth. Depending on the damage to the infrastructure and the response to the riots (curtailment of movement, martial law, etc.) you should be prepared to be self-sufficient for at least a week. Think long and hard about where you will store your supplies. They should be INSIDE your home, to where you don't have to exit to get to them (don't put them in a detached shed, garage, etc.) and should be in an area you can lock (with a deadbolt preferably). They should be to where someone needs to get past you to get to them.

8. It says "stock up on pepper spray and/or bear spray". Of course, this website is a feel-good naturalist website giving these recommendations. What that should read is BE ARMED TO DEFEND YOURSELF. The minimum arsenal for home defense should include a handgun, a shotgun (preferably pump because it has been proven that the sound of a pump shotgun being pumped is a major determent to a would be intruder), and some type of melee weapon (war axe, machete, tomahawk, knife, etc.) A crossbow pistol is nice for close-range defense as well (on a one shot basis). On election day make sure your arms are loaded and in close proximity to your person at all times. Even the "feel good" sight eventually states "you need a revolver" because you won't be able to rely on 911 to save your ass. PLEASE MAKE SURE YOU HAVE ENOUGH AMMUNITION FOR EVERY GUN. Some ammo is very hard to come by these days (some say by design). Go now, get your required ammo to ensure you have what you need.

9. Stay tuned. Tune into news coverage of the evolving election results on a channel that is connected with local media so that if something local begins, you are aware of it. But I'll add to what the website states. If you don't have a police/fire scanner, then find your local law enforcement and fire scanner frequencies here

www.radioreference.com...

and have them connected so that you can hear transmissions real-time.

10. Don't taunt. The website says don't be stupid enough to leave threats (or taunting) messages on twitter, facebook (here), etc. Remember, this is the information age and you may not be as anonymous as you think you are.

That's where their suggestions/recommendations end. So let's round this out.

11. Have a bug-out bag (one for each member of your family). If your automobiles can be parked inside an enclosed, secure garage then load your bug-out bags in the trunk/cargo space of your car. If they have to be parked out in the open, keep the bug-out bags close by you (so that people don't break out your windows in your vehicle and steal them.) Be sure your car also has plenty of blankets, etc. in case you have to sleep in it.

12. Have a contingency plan for bugging-out. Where are you going? Will there be a support system there? Your planned route should include the following considerations: avoid interstates - take state highways, county roads, etc. instead; if you live in a metro area plan your route to avoid any higher risk areas; avoid having to pass through other metropolitan areas, plan "back way" routes instead....even if they are much longer.

13. On election day you should have full tanks of gas in each vehicle and you should have back up gas cans filled and ready to take with you if you bug-out.

14. If you have a Radio Shack near you, you can walk in and purchase an inexpensive ProtectAmerica security system for your home. It takes a matter of hours to install the sensors on windows and doors. I would suggest doing this on MONDAY. That way if you are asleep and someone breaks into your home, you have something to alert you. Depending on how much you can afford, you can get window breakage sensors, smoke alarms, etc. to go with this system.

15. Lastly, make sure your contact lists/phone numbers are up to date on your phones/smart devices. Be sure your batteries are fully charged. If you don't have a DC/AC charger for your car, get one on MONDAY so you can keep your phone charged when you are in your car.

Any other suggestions to this list are welcomed.

Thanks.

Well, I live in the Ghetto in Brooklyn and I don't have a car.
I'm also not allowed to own a gun in NYC.
I have a kitchen knife.
What should I do?

reply to post by DrGod


Watch Master Chef, mastering your cutlery skills could be beneficial.

lol

riots in the usa
dont make me laugh
im sure mcdonalds will still be open so most americans will be a ok

I know this year is a hot year with the elections but I didn't know that I should be so worried about riots. Thankfully I live in the country and I'm surrounded by Amish.

Great thread Valhall, thank you.

Hopefully people will take it serious, take away the election element and this would be handy for any riot situation.

See how the London riots flared up so quickly.

CX.

I have heard several people talking about the possibility of riots post election. I am prepared either way, but I really don't think if they do happen to break out it will be very widespread. I think it will be limited to a few select cities, but I could be wrong.

Originally posted by DrGod
Well, I live in the Ghetto in Brooklyn and I don't have a car.
I'm also not allowed to own a gun in NYC.
I have a kitchen knife.
What should I do?

Move? I mean seriously why live there?

reply to post by Valhall


So pretty much what I do everyday...

Great list for those that aren't already prepared. Thanks for posting it.

reply to post by Thunderheart


Thanks. This Survival forum is probably the best resource on the net for truly preparing for long-term survival. My hopes were to take that article and give a primer for people who are not prepared. Hopefully I kept it simple enough (and I mean that in tasks that can be completed by Tuesday, not simple-minded!) that it can be beneficial to some folks.

The threats are out there, increasing, and anyone choosing to go into this situation without taking some preparatory actions to protect themselves and their families are no different than someone who decides the warnings for a coming hurricane "don't apply to them".

That's the way I feel.

If nothing happens at all, or if nothing happens in your area, then you have extra food and don't have to go to the grocery store for a bit longer! You have extra gas and don't have to go to the station for just a bit longer! And you have the peace of mind you took the basic steps to protect your family members....just in case.

No one ever complains about a job done better than needed when there are no failures. It's when there is a failure due to shoddy that work that the work gets scrutinized.

Likely the result will be delayed for months as they fight it out in court.

Hopefully that will allow time to accept reality and calm down.

Otherwise, I am out in the boondocks, riot all you like...

Originally posted by DrGod
Well, I live in the Ghetto in Brooklyn and I don't have a car.
I'm also not allowed to own a gun in NYC.
I have a kitchen knife.
What should I do?

You sit down. Take a deep breath. Slowly bend down with your head between your legs and kiss your ass goodbye.

Seriously, it is stupid, imo, not to own a firearm. Not allowed? Really.

I received threats that a liberal wanted to "come looking for me" Which is interesting since I am war vet ,but it does indicate how these types can be emotionally controlled.That is a powerful tool as a tactic.you can easily goad such people into an angry clumsy assault.

I find this so amusing.

For four freaking years the country has been subjected to calls for "revolution" from Tea Partiers and ultra-Conservatives. These same people horde guns and ammo and get their kicks off of doom porn and Armageddon lore.

...and yet I'm supposed to be concerned about the half of the country who accepted the results from a likely stolen election in 2000?

Um, no.

Half of us actually believe in and accept the results of our democracy, unlike the other half.

reply to post by Sergeant Stiletto


Well I'm not a "Tea Partier" but I can tell you they haven't threatened to riot, nor called to riot. They're too busy clinging to their bibles and their guns to do something that base and violent. By the way, both of those things they've been clinging to are defensive, not offensive like the gutter-snipe trash-talk happening now.

There won't be any riots. There might be some Tparty types demonstrating and fighting with people taunting them but Americans don't have the guts to take to the streets like in Europe. Americans are an emasculated bunch of cowardly conformist. Even the so called counter culture is just a bunch of posers more concerned with fashion than politics.

You can't predict what will happen in the general populace by reading the extremest BS on ATS.

If there are riots; it will be by the hungry people on the East coast after FEMA drops the ball once again; not because of the elections.

That being said, I'm prepared to seek revenge on those that have insulted me; if I'm wrong about the riots. Words have repercussions

Originally posted by olaru12


That being said, I'm prepared to seek revenge on those that have insulted me;

And I'm prepared to return fire for the love country. ...whatever.

Originally posted by olaru12
There won't be any riots. There might be some Tparty types demonstrating and fighting with people taunting them but Americans don't have the guts to take to the streets like in Europe. Americans are an emasculated bunch of cowardly conformist. Even the so called counter culture is just a bunch of posers more concerned with fashion than politics.

You can't predict what will happen in the general populace by reading the extremest BS on ATS.

If there are riots; it will be by the hungry people on the East coast after FEMA drops the ball once again; not because of the elections.

That being said, I'm prepared to seek revenge on those that have insulted me; if I'm wrong about the riots. Words have repercussions

edit on 3-11-2012 by olaru12 because: (no reason given)

Make sure you read this paragraph again!
There won't be any riots. Even the wanna be hardasses on twitter won't lift a finger.
And rioting makes no sense anyway, what good is it going to do to trash your own neighborhood while the rest of the people in your country are eating McDonald's and kicking their feet up because they don't get it.

Rioting because your guy wasn't chosen, b.s.
Rioting because America needs a revolution and our rights & constitution have been compromised, still b.s.

It's sad.

all hype,.
the Olympics were to be a place where issues were to evolve,.
no bombs,. no terrorists, no mayhem.. nothing
the election will pass,. some will be upset,. but a riot of concerning size wont evolve

Up here in Canada there is very few guns. When We riot, We twap People in the face with back bacon.