"Romney is one of the most dishonest, duplicitous candidates to ever seek the presidency" - NYTime

It goes along with his lies about the jeep plant, supposedly moving U.S. jobs to China. He has got employees calling their employer asking what is going on. Turns out they are expanding in China, but adding jobs here in the states and not sending them overseas. It is amazing that a Mormon can get up there in public and lie so consistently.

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I have no bone to pick with either Obama or Romney. I believe both political organizations are dishonest and I believe that both want the key to the hen house. At my age, of near ninety, and having voted independent since Truman, I have seen nothing to convince me that either party will ever bring fairness to this Republic.

I understand your passion and hope because at one time I also had that same passion and hope but I think most people look at the same thing differently among themselves. Romney nor the Romney group stated that US jobs were being moved from one place to another. What he did say was that the Jeep division was sold to the Italians who in turn were going to farm the work out to China. In essence that will cut some American jobs. That is being considered but has not happened as yet. In other words the jobs were not to be moved but were to be created in China. Now you can spin this any way you care to spin it but it is not the complete truth the way that you stated it.

Also you are not totally honest even with yourself. Some of Obama's green jobs have have also been in foreign countries with very little (or no) publicity. Ford and Chrysler both have foreign manufactures as well as parts being manufactured by assortment of foreign nations. It is a complex world that we live in and one size shoe is never going to fit every foot.

As a small business owner (some years back) I had my product manufactured in Japan. The reason for this was that I could not find American manufactures to meet my standards. I tried almost every major machine co in the Midwest and finally gave up trying. I was even willing to pay the forty percent increase in manufacturing costs simply to bring my product home. You might wonder why I was in Japan in the first place. The answer to that was that I had purchased the Co while it was based in Japan.

I have now retired and my son has control of the firm. He is also trying to bring the firm home but has the same problems that I had some years ago. The very same problems exist today as have existed years ago for small businesses. Nothing has really changed and in fact have grown worse for the mom and pop businesses. The country has lost much of its labor skill such as machine work. We are no longer leaders in science and math and are ranked as 25th in the world. Does that look to you as though any of our leaders are really on top of this thing?

We have become a nation of outsourcing as well as a drugged and crime ridden society. Don't simply look at a political organization to feed and cloth you because after you are old, no one really cares about you anymore. Your best insurance in life is to build your own life with building your brain. Your mind is your future and your insurance policy. After Obama and Romney, then what? What will you do then? They will never make you wealthy nor are they interested in making you wealthy. They wind up with the money and you will go on and on year after year in your pretend world.
Wish you the best in life.

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IF that was the case...You'd rather have an American Sociopath as president, than a foreign normal human being (maybe with a little bit of narcissistic tendencies) ??

I wish people would stop thinking that sociopathy and psychopathy is only exclusive to masked serial killers. Most of these disordered people function well in society, and are attracted to positions of power like moths to the light. But Willard is so obvious with his sociopathy, you'd have to be a fool not to see it.

The constant lying. The awkward and feigned smile on his face all the time. Nobody smiles like that. The stiff and awkward walk. The cold stare he gave Obama in the benghazi discussion during the second debate. That stare he gave him when he wanted to confirm whether or not he called the attack an act of terror is the cold stare of a sociopath when he is ready to unleash his kill shot or stab to the terrified and cornered victim.


Come on now...

I like the way you all trash Romney and then you make sure you say you are not a fan of Obama either. So funny when you read it. Its as if that makes your statement more credible.

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Sweetheart, we have had to look at the Obama's for 4 years!!!!!! Get ready to look at the Romneys for at leat 4 years. Are you a psychologist or something? Or do you know others that fit these labels you are sidhing out.

I don't understand how a man of the church can tell so many untruths. You would think he would research a little of what is told to him before repeating it. I suppose that is not in the presidents job description so he probably qualifies. Come to think of it, believing in lies and telling half truths is pushed extensively in this country....Glad to see Romney is normal.

And obama is the most honest, heh?

Vote socialist workers party. Who is running for president this year?

Maybe they can go from 5,000 popular votes to 2,000,000 and then 10,000,000!

That is what happens when big business finances the whole fiasco and causes a black-out of third parties that are too poor to pay their way. Everyone wants to be on the winning sheep team to prevent the other sheep team from winning.

Originally posted by girlofmountain1
I like the way you all trash Romney and then you make sure you say you are not a fan of Obama either. So funny when you read it. Its as if that makes your statement more credible.

I think it's just being honest.

I am not a huge Obama fan, but compared to Romney (who I had as a governor), he's amazing.

It's not like there's a credible, electable alternative.

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Hands-on experience is my degree.

Do you think Romney is honest? Do you think he is a man who holds firm to his beliefs? If so, why has he changed his position on the policies which gained him the Republican nomination? Why, during the first debate with Obama, did he completely abandon all his positions on the issues? And then right after, go back to his original positions?

He is a liar. And not a normal political liar. If you feel he has your best interests at heart, then by all means, vote. But know this... you are dealing with a pathological liar, and if you can't see that then.. oh well.

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Oh I will vote for Romney don't worry. I cannot take another 4 years of Obama squandering my money and paying for all of his wifes trips, and his golf games. This people play more than they do anything else. And the untruths just keeping rolling out of his mouth. Cant take it anymore. Time for a change. A Real Change.

Originally posted by longlostbrother

Evidence continues to emerge that Romney is one of the most dishonest, duplicitous candidates to ever seek the presidency.

He criticized Obama for telling then-President Dmitri Medvedev of Russia that he would have “more flexibility” to deal with sensitive issues between the two countries after he won re-election. Romney said this was particularly troubling given that Russia “is without question our No. 1 geopolitical foe.”

However, according to a report on Friday in The New York Times, Romney’s son Matt recently travelled to Russia and delivered a message to President Vladimir Putin:

“Mr. Romney told a Russian known to be able to deliver messages to Mr. Putin that despite the campaign rhetoric, his father wants good relations if he becomes president, according to a person informed about the conversation.”

It sounds as though he was signalling that Mitt would do exactly what he had castigated Obama for: operate with “more flexibility” after the election.

This is the kind of hypocrisy that just makes you shake your head in disbelief.

www.nytimes.com...

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I see Romney's son making that trip to give some assurances that there will be some dialogue between a Romney white house and the Russian white house. A good political move in order to keep the peace and dialogue flowing between the UsA and Russia. It is also a signal that that whatever Obummer has promised Putin is not going to happen, that there is going to be a change, but one that will offer some new ideas going forward.

Originally posted by Vitruvian
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The New York Times is the most dishonest, duplicitous Leftist/Marxist newspaper in the entire world - bar none.

"All the trash that's unfit to print!"

Go here for truth in broadcast journalism...........FOX NEWS SITE

Fair and Balanced - All the news that fit to report - un-biased - objective - truthful.

edit on 3-11-2012 by Vitruvian because: txt

You aren't SERIOUSLY suggesting that Fox News is an actual , legit source of NEWS are you?

Anybody who can't see that FOX NEWS is the right's version of The Daily Show/Colbert Show, is bat# crazy, no offense.

It sounds like you are just being sarcastic, but I can't really tell from you post. Mainly because believe it or not, there are people who actually think like this post. There have been documentaries made, and tons of information linked about FOX news. Once it was bought out by Rupert Murdoch, nearly EVERYTHING became political, and with a conservative/right leaning. Many people were fired/quit because they didn't want to spread the propaganda.

Do your research people. Seriously, I wouldn't think anyone on this web-site was THAT ignorant.

I stopped giving it any credibility when i saw NY Times.
Posting a threads like that is a total waste of time and webspace.
It would be like saying something against Obama and using Fox as the source.

Dont waste our time.

Originally posted by girlofmountain1
reply to post by Q2IN2Y

 

Oh I will vote for Romney don't worry. I cannot take another 4 years of Obama squandering my money and paying for all of his wifes trips, and his golf games. This people play more than they do anything else. And the untruths just keeping rolling out of his mouth. Cant take it anymore. Time for a change. A Real Change.

Right. You can't take another 4 years of Obama and his wive's vacations.....and yet every single president on record since the 80s, and probably much before, has taken more vacation days than Obama.

Please people, vote for whoever you want, but atleast make an INTELLIGENT decision.

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Wow! And Obama and Biden is an intelligent decision? Biden?

Originally posted by girlofmountain1
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Wow! And Obama and Biden is an intelligent decision? Biden?

Biden any day over Paul Ryan. Any day.

Originally posted by girlofmountain1
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Wow! And Obama and Biden is an intelligent decision? Biden?

I certainly never that!

Let the best man win. Either Romney or Obama, I certainly won't complain about EITHER of them taking vacations. Every president takes a ton of vacation days. Hell, if I was the president, I would too. Imagine how stressful the job must be.

My whole point is that Obama has not taken anymore vacation days than any other recent president. You can look that up. The reason I said to make an intelligent decision, isn't about WHICH president is the "intelligent" decision. It is about deciding which president works best for YOU, because of their policy.

How will their policy influence our country? What is their foreign policy? What is their domestic policy? etc etc. Not vacation days.

Longlostbrother, I couldn't have said it better. I gave you another star. Mitt Romney is a big fat lying scumbag.

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It is pretty much a given that all poiticians lie at times and distort truths. It is sad. It should not be tolerated. Believe me when I say that I am no Mitt Romney fan. But of all the politicians that has come down the pike since Kennedy, I find Barak Hussein Obama to be the consumate liar. Bush and Clinton are bad but they pale in front of this pathological nutcase that's in the whitehouse now. Barak Hussien Obama should be in hiding somewhere and the whole country from grandma to the navy seals should be looking for him. To prosecute him. and if found guilty of treason be hanged in the public square. But then again so should his predecessors. God is going to do some house cleaning with these spiritual Edomites that have infiltrated Jacobs gates. Woe worth the day!!

www.bloomberg.com...

Here's another way Romney avoided taxes, someone like this doesn't deserve to run for president, he's a scumbag liar.

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Holly $h!t so he basically doesn't have to pay taxes until he is dead but gets relish in the profits now.

The rich get to cheat at almost everything.

The 2 things in life that are unavoidable death and taxes but he figured out a way to make one contingent on another. He is a scumbag.