J-31 first flight

Flightglobal is showing pictures of the first flight of the J-31 in China. The aircraft performed a high speed taxi test, became briefly airborne, and then flew a 10 minute flight, with a pair of J-11 chase planes. No word on when the actual flight took place, but pictures are at the link.

J-31 first flight

Saw this yesterday here: aviationintel.com...

He's a member here. Maybe he will stop by...

But he asks a good question. How did they get it flying so fast?

Originally posted by boomer135

But he asks a good question. How did they get it flying so fast?

Noshir Gowadia.

Originally posted by Pervius

Originally posted by boomer135But he asks a good question. How did they get it flying so fast?

Noshir Gowadia.

Yep...that traitor. The private/government contractors working on classified projects should be bugged and monitored for a given period of time until the technology is no longer considered
cutting edge. This is a big hole and weakness in the system where countless scientists and other professionals are prone to international espionage and/or bribery to sellout. This also includes universities and academia where the government funding is often sought after for key research into cutting edge technologies.

Or.... it would also hugely benefit the makers of such hardware enormously to perhaps leak information themselves.
Think about it, leak plans and stuff to the "other" side and let them build their new hardware. Then you just go back to the government and offer to design something even better to counter what the other side just built.... but it's gonna cost!

That would of course explain the humongous military spend and equally mind boggling design and development costs! But hey, it's good business and the taxpayers haven't been squeezed completely into abject poverty....yet!

Noshir Gowadia was no traitor.

Northrup Grumman brought him into America with a H-1 Visa from India.

He worked on the B-2 and other secret projects....then GAVE the blueprints of the B-2 and other things to China and other countries. He even took the secrets he learned from us and designed China a stealth cruise missile.

Noshir Gowadia wasn't American, therefor couldn't be a traitor.


Bringing in foreigners to work on our Top Secret stuff hasn't panned out well for America. The B-2 bomber is now a lawn ornament. The Navy's aircraft carriers now have a real threat as well.

reply to post by Pervius


If you are working for the gov't, regardless of where you are from, you sign an agreement that anything classified you work on will not be spoken about. He violated the agreement, and should be in jail, just like any other contractor that leaks info.

How is the B-2 a "lawn ornament"? It's been improved considerably from when any plans were leaked. Even with plans though that doesn't tell you everything about it.

reply to post by Pervius


um...he was a naturalized American citizen.

Ty Rogoway's interview with radio talk show host John Batcholer on WABC in New York regarding the j-31. Nice to hear an ATS member on the radio!

aviationintel.com...-230994

Wow they have an F22 replica. I Bet its missing a few perks.

reply to post by cavtrooper7


Yeah the first stealth jet they built was alot bigger and designed to basically have a long range and take out HVAA aircraft like tankers, AWACS, JSTARS, etc.

reply to post by boomer135


It'll be interesting to see if the next gen AWACS is going to go in the way I've heard rumors about, as far as the radar replacement goes. It would definitely be a leap in radar technology for them.

Originally posted by Zaphod58
reply to post by boomer135

 

It'll be interesting to see if the next gen AWACS is going to go in the way I've heard rumors about, as far as the radar replacement goes. It would definitely be a leap in radar technology for them.

I'm interested to know what the rumors you heard were if you can say. All I've seen is the DOD projections for the next 30 years. They said they might work on a UAV that will replace AWACS, JSTARS, and Rivet Joint. I'm kind of leery about that though. UAV's are a good idea when it comes to putting people in harms way, but trusting that much sophisticated equipment to a drone might not be. Here's a link to some cool stuff. If you got any info you would like to share, I'd be interested!

www.uasvision.com...

Some very good images of the Chinese J-31.

damn china. They can't invent anything of their own. All those brains, and guess what, they still need to copy the "dumb" Americans.

Guess what world, you can talk all you want. The US is always the leader in technological innovations, and you know it. Keep trying to copy us.

The best form of flattery is imitation.

When the US falls, civilization as you have known it will follow. We are Rome, we are the order of the world. When we fall, the dark ages will come again, just like when Rome fell.

You can say what you will, but even the computers you are using are American inventions, and their innovative replacements will be American as well.

World,? you mad bro?

like our planes do you? yeah, you love it.

keep copying us. We are flattered that all those excellent minds creating insults about our weight still can't produce half of the contributions our country has made to the world, which you currently enjoy....love it.

oh and the best military in the world is not overweight......

Originally posted by manykapao


You can say what you will, but even the computers you are using are American inventions, and their innovative replacements will be American as well.

Wasn't the computer actually invented by the British towards the end of WW2 at Bletchly Park.....? I know Apple and IBM made them mainstream but.................

Also the Fall of the Roman empire was not the end of civilisation but the end of Roman rule......... life carried on and a new civilisation was born which is why you are here today to type such twoddle......

PDUK

reply to post by PurpleDog UK


actually if you want to get picky, the Germans invented it.

Konrad Zuse (1910-1995) was a construction engineer for the Henschel Aircraft Company in Berlin, Germany at the beginning of WWII. Konrad Zuse earned the semiofficial title of "inventor of the modern computer" for his series of automatic calculators, which he invented to help him with his lengthy engineering calculations. Zuse has modestly dismissed the title while praising many of the inventions of his contemporaries and successors as being equally if not more important than his own.

One of the most difficult aspects of doing a large calculation with either a slide rule or a mechanical adding machine is keeping track of all intermediate results and using them, in their proper place, in later steps of the calculation. Konrad Zuse wanted to overcome that difficulty. He realized that an automatic-calculator device would require three basic elements: a control, a memory, and a calculator for the arithmetic.

inventors.about.com...

But you know I was referring to the first commercial computer which was entirely American or else we should consider rudimentary counting instruments of prehistoric times as well. The largest manufacturers today, who produce all the innovations are American. We even invented the freaking internet, but no. The British do it all. I wasn't even going to make a counter British argument being as we are close allies and share all we learn for the most part, but since you want to go there, YOU didn't invent it. The Germans did, and they would have kicked your ass if the fat Americans hadn't come to the rescue. Then we rebuilt Europe under the marshal plan. So....

Oh and medieval times most certainly were fueled by the fall of Rome. Many things from engineering, social laws, education were lost when Rome fell. The feudal society that took over was a complete fail. It was so eagerly replaced for its catastrophic failures that we have since referred to it as the DARK AGES...so you can say whatever.

The US has to be copied because we are the most innovative. Sucks to not be able to admit it out of resent.

The worrying thing about this is the trend.

Whether they catch up by 'cheating' or not is irrelevant.You get no points in life for honour or righteousness.

It becomes a question of who's development cycle is faster. Who's aerospace community is leaner and can field the next generations of product faster.

Thats the biggest threat to the west I see. Our aerospace development cycles are too long. 10-15 years per development and fielding of a generation of product is unacceptable when your competitor can leap a decade in one information download.

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My understanding is although it looks very similiar one of our newest planes they could not duplicate the engine and are using a off the shelf russian engine....it's like buying a dodge charger and settling for the 6.0 cylinder rather than the 8 cylinder....like I did

reply to post by boomer135


Have you heard about the new J-STARS radar? It's similar to that. It's basically going to be a leap in technology for airborne radars, IF they go with it.