POST SANDY: "People are turning on each other -- they're attacking each other"

Originally posted by Ireminisce
reply to post by snarky412

 

How is this possible? We can get food to other countries after bombing them to bits, but can't get it to 20,000 Americans right there in Jersey?

Good question,

Originally posted by Flavian
reply to post by khimbar

 

People are good when times are good. When the chips are down though, base instinct seems to kick in for many people.

'Integrity is being good when no-one is looking'.

People don't have that anymore. In my opinion.

reply to post by loam


Yes, the media only cares to discuss looting during natural disasters when it involves people of color. Don't wanna make the white folk look bad.


But it doesn't surprise me that there is some looting going on. That's human nature. But it also might be a matter of survival in that people need supplies and stores were open and/or were damaged and perishable goods maybe going bad given that electricity is out. So I am not going to get on a moral high horse and condemn everyone who may be doing what can technically be called looting. You be in that same position and see what you do if you need stuff and you see supplies that would otherwise get damaged/destroyed or taken by the next Tom, Dick or Harry.

Originally posted by khimbar


'Integrity is being good when no-one is looking'.

People don't have that anymore. In my opinion.

You ought to put that in your signature and copyright it before somebody else does!

Originally posted by snarky412

Originally posted by Stormdancer777
reply to post by loam

 

I was thinking about this yesterday when they reported how much perishable food would be thrown away, I wondered about it during New Orleans too, these shop owners should pass out the perishable items, they are going to throw it away anyway, but I guess they never think it will get this bad,

I also worry about my diabetic daughter if I had to steal for insulin I would, it is a terrible thing to worry about, but in the case of a natural disaster, yea I would do it.

We were working down in Morgan City, LA when hurricane Isaac came through and some of the stores there gave away the perishables to the public.

I guess, along the coastal area where they are prone to hurricanes all the time, some of the stores already know what to get rid of in a situation like that.

It helps them out and it helps the public as well.

HI Snarky, I remember people needing Insulin for NewO, and the DM posted pictures of all the food being thrown away yesterday, some of it looked perfectly fine.

Originally posted by Stormdancer777

Originally posted by Ireminisce
reply to post by snarky412

 

How is this possible? We can get food to other countries after bombing them to bits, but can't get it to 20,000 Americans right there in Jersey?

Good question,

Maybe because the roads and other transportation systems are still out, and the regional food distributions may be bullocked-up as well. Not to mention that NYC is a big frick'n place as well as the surrounding regions of New Jersey. There are a lot of people and a lot of destroyed/damaged infrastructure. If only 20,000 people are still isolated and not getting relief by this early date, then things are going swimmingly given the size of this disaster.

I really don't get comments like this. It's like you have no idea of how the real world works. The malls aren't open and UPS is not delivering Amazon shipments to the area currently.

Originally posted by khimbar

Originally posted by Flavian
reply to post by khimbar

 

People are good when times are good. When the chips are down though, base instinct seems to kick in for many people.

'Integrity is being good when no-one is looking'.

People don't have that anymore. In my opinion.

Great quote Khimbar. Seems it is in built though (sadly for us).............

Children only generous when being watched

reply to post by MrInquisitive


Well yea I do have an idea since I was born and raised in tornado alley and my husband is one of the first in the damage area,

Went through numerous tornadoes all my life, I understand that this is different in many ways, that's one reason I wouldn't want to live in a highly populated area.

I have been watching this disaster closely and reading some of the comment on other sites, I wont comment on what they are posting though.

reply to post by loam


I'm wondering why the heck Randy Quaid is in Brooklyn? Shouldn't he have enough money not to loot or was he there after the fact and someone just thought it cool Randy Quaid came to a devastated looted Brooklyn store?

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Hurricane Sandy Utility Outages May Be Worsened By Underinvestment, Lack Of Planning

Two days after Hurricane Sandy walloped the East Coast, electrical utility companies warned hundreds of thousands of customers from Long Island to New Jersey that they may be left in the dark for more than 10 days.

While ten days is a long time, I've seen even higher estimates.

Not good.

Originally posted by MrInquisitive

Originally posted by Stormdancer777

Originally posted by Ireminisce
reply to post by snarky412

 

How is this possible? We can get food to other countries after bombing them to bits, but can't get it to 20,000 Americans right there in Jersey?

Good question,

Maybe because the roads and other transportation systems are still out, and the regional food distributions may be bullocked-up as well. Not to mention that NYC is a big frick'n place as well as the surrounding regions of New Jersey. There are a lot of people and a lot of destroyed/damaged infrastructure. If only 20,000 people are still isolated and not getting relief by this early date, then things are going swimmingly given the size of this disaster.

I really don't get comments like this. It's like you have no idea of how the real world works. The malls aren't open and UPS is not delivering Amazon shipments to the area currently.

I didn't ask why people can't go down to the mall and buy a new waffle maker. I asked why it's so difficult to get food to those that need it. I realize that transportation is down. I realize that the grocery stores can't be replenished, but if Americans are with out food and water, it seems a boat or a helicopter could be used? I know they didn't take the freeway to Haiti after the earth quake. Surely the Government has access to those things. Maybe I don't completely understand how disaster relief works, but I don't think that equates to not knowing how the real world works. That was an unnecessary comment.

reply to post by mythos

"We looted a store because we had no food and we had to do something," Wood told AFP outside their French Quarter hotel while waiting for a ride to nearby Baton Rouge. "It was really scary while we were in there."

The pair said they leapt through a smashed window of a local Winn-Dixie supermarket and started to stock up on soup, power bars and soy milk while other looters gathered armfuls of soda and beer.

"We were trying to get stuff that would sustain us. Some people were going by and they had a plant," O'Shea said, shrugging in disbelief at the range of items hauled away.

She said that in the aftermath of Katrina, an intelligence network sprouted on the largely deserted streets of New Orleans letting looters know where the best pickings were.

It's not looting if it is necessary to survive, and the authorities are not helping or intervening. It is "foraging."

Seriously though, the people looting on day 1, and taking electronics and games, and posting them to Twitter and Facebook, need to be publicly hanged, but the people stealing soup and bottled water on day 7 are not criminals. There is a difference.

I know there is looting going on, but I don't believe it is to the scale portrayed in the press.

Originally posted by ldyserenity
reply to post by loam

 

I'm wondering why the heck Randy Quaid is in Brooklyn?

Shouldn't he have enough money not to loot or was he there after the fact and someone just thought it cool Randy Quaid came to a devastated looted Brooklyn store?

Perhaps things are so bad for him he is there to get free canned goods that Romney was passing out.

today.msnbc.msn.com... /ns/today-entertainment/t/randy-quaid-freed-bail-after-arrest-texas/

This is from a few years ago....LOL

Randy Quaid was given a ride from a small West Texas jail to get bail money from a bank after the actor and his wife were arrested for allegedly skipping out on a $10,000 California hotel bill, according to the sheriff who drove him.

Originally posted by Sissel

Originally posted by khimbar


'Integrity is being good when no-one is looking'.

People don't have that anymore. In my opinion.

You ought to put that in your signature and copyright it before somebody else does!

I wish I'd said it first, I believe it was C. S. Lewis!

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Well this is pathetic.

Originally posted by Stormdancer777
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Well this is pathetic.

Im shocked they reported it.. theyre pretty selective in reporting... as Im sure you know . They were like this in the 80's and 90's too when we had some whopper hurricanes in the gulf. In the 70's they reported things pretty clearly.. but the news was vastly different back then!
People assume that the "good" in folks comes out in disasters.. mainly because thats what the media likes to show and thats how they relate to the world.. through a TV screen. Kinda like Japans media.. guess they didnt bet on some of us having actual human beings in Japan we relied on for the truth. There WAS looting and chaos.. but a tsunami is a lot different than a hurricane or tornado.. which should be obvious to some. The complete desctruction in a tsumnami makes looting as seen after a hurricane pretty hard. I hear herp-derp while reading some comments concerning it... its hard to loot when the store isnt there anymore! LOL!.To deny it happens in every culture is to be seen as a fool. The hard fact is that disasters bring out opportunists and the criminal element. Some gangs we have TODAY formed decades ago due to pooling together then an opportunity arose during a disaster or war ( IE the Blitz gangs, etc).

IMO, only fools, children, and folks who live under a rock think that disaster brings out the best in everyone.. opportunism is built into us as a species.Apparently real survival isnt as they are looting pretty ridiculous items. In every Hurricane or tornado Ive been in.. its ran almost the same. Event-disaster- deaths-chaos-looting- unnecessary deaths after the disaster- clean up- rebuilt-community pulls together-mourning the dead- everyone forgets every lesson learned.. rinse repeat with every disaster.

I have NO idea why this is so shocking to some.. or worse, why its being denied.. and why complete LIES are being put forth as truth. The deniers and liars are WHY we never move any higher.. why we never learn.

Civilization is only about 9 meals away from collapse.

reply to post by Advantage


Survival instinct and how it has made us who we are is an important subject and one I find very interesting, everything is about survival, love, hate, religion, everything.

Originally posted by NavyDoc
Civilization is only about 9 meals away from collapse.

What an awesome comment. How did you arrive at 9 though, because I think it's less than that.

How about all the zombie topics lately? If people can't find a meal, they will just eat your face these days!

no offense but this is not news. South Brooklyn has always had that type of crap. People looting and turning on each other, the hurricane sandy all it did, was slow them down.