Who is Gods creator?

Can you count backwards to infinity and reach a "beginning" point? No. Infinity stretches both forwards and backwards. Infinity has NO beginning or ending. If it did, then it WOULDN'T be "infinite." God's existence is just THAT: infinite/Eternal. He already made it clear from the beginning there are NO other gods besides him. Your documentation:

Isaiah 44:8 - "Is there a God beside me? yea, there is no God; I know not any."

Psalms 90:2 - "Even from everlasting to everlasting, thou art God."

Psalms 93:2 - "Thy throne is established of old: thou art from everlasting."

Habakkuk - 1:12 - "Art thou not from everlasting, O LORD my God, mine Holy One?"

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Isaiah 44:8 - "Is there a God beside me? yea, there is no God; I know not any."

Psalms 90:2 - "Even from everlasting to everlasting, thou art God."

Psalms 93:2 - "Thy throne is established of old: thou art from everlasting."

Habakkuk - 1:12 - "Art thou not from everlasting, O LORD my God, mine Holy One?"

Thans for the religous quotes. I find them interesting and mysterious.

Originally posted by AthlonSavage
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Isaiah 44:8 - "Is there a God beside me? yea, there is no God; I know not any."

Psalms 90:2 - "Even from everlasting to everlasting, thou art God."

Psalms 93:2 - "Thy throne is established of old: thou art from everlasting."

Habakkuk - 1:12 - "Art thou not from everlasting, O LORD my God, mine Holy One?"

Thans for the religous quotes. I find them interesting and mysterious.

reply to post by AthlonSavage


Oh, likewise; thanks for the "religious" question. You want to sit there and interrogate God -- when he addressed your question from the beginning...

reply to post by Shaxuul

You want to sit there and "interrogate" God

he wrote the answers in a way for the Hebrew to understand. Im not Hebrew so i have to interrogate.

reply to post by AthlonSavage


To me God is just the source, the source of the energy that formed everything you see, and the conciousness, I believe it is not a being per se but just the energy that flows through everything and became self aware, best compared to AI, somehow the maths from that first big bang added up to creating a computer code of sorts that lead to the creation of conciousness that began to bring order to the universe, but then that one source split & fractured and formed all the concious life forms we see today. But I still don't and can't imagine how that binary even came to be, somehow it formed out of the energy that flowed, by accident I guess? It's really difficult to explain what I mean.

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somehow the maths from that first big bang added up to creating a computer code of sorts that lead to the creation of conciousness that began to bring order to the universe, but then that one source split & fractured and formed all the concious life forms we see today. But I still don't and can't imagine how that binary even came to be, somehow it formed out of the energy that flowed, by accident I guess? It's really difficult to explain what I mean.

I like what you wrote it made me think of something i hadnt consider before. Mabey the universe is an accident of an experiment gone unexpectantly different than thought. The splitting and fracturing of conciousness. Makes me wonder when the atom bomb was set of did it initiate a big band creation of a new universe somewhere with factured conscious form.

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HE!? For what possible reason would any GOD have GENDER? This is always been a ridiculous idea. Anything that would qualify for being a GOD...would not be confined to a BODY that is a copy of an EVOLUTIONARY developed Biological Construct specific for use on Earth...not for Creating a Universe or Multiverse.

Split Infinity

Originally posted by AthlonSavage
Who is Gods creator?

It is common agmonst Ats thread writers and posters to refer to God and the general connotation is that God is the creator of life on earth. Now what God actually is will often lead to emotive debates.

I want to in this thread ask the question who created God? Of course this presumes that God is a real thing of a humanly describable or non-humanly undescribale form.

If God is truely an inventation of the human mind then the answer is quite simple that humans created God.

If not and there is actual in fact something of a separate intelligent force to humans with power enough to create the world and everything in it, then the answer will be completely different.

So take a seat in the chair of the greatest mystery of all and ponder.

So who is God?
And who is Gods Creator?

edit on 30-10-2012 by AthlonSavage because: (no reason given)

Every one, every thing and every single atom in the universe combined together create the 'One', or GOD as we more commonly refer.

God is a something that is a part of all of us. What those who pray at night and believe in religion are really doing are really attempting to tap into the "singularity" and make literally anything they want happen when they need it. We all have the ability to pray to GOD and create the best possible lives for each other, but lack of understanding is hindering our progress to become ultimate beings.

With regards to who created GOD. Well if GOD is EVERYTHING, then EVERYTHING created GOD.

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wo wo easy, lets see what god is first ?
lets not get ahead of ourselves.

Originally posted by AthlonSavage
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What is to be thought of the opinion that attributes the first formation of things to a fortuitous combination of matter, in other words, to chance?

"Another absurdity! Who that is possessed of common sense can regard chance as an intelligent agent? And, besides, what is chance? Nothing."

Where will free will more likely to exist? In a system where cause and effect are bounded togther within a system, or one where cause is separated outside the system. If we can articulate a set of rules for how objects exercise freedom within a bounded system then possibly it indicates that chance is an illusion, and everything that happens no matter how small or big is a result of intelligent control.

In general terms, and in relation to the question, control is a flawed description...

There is only requirement to 'set' systems in motion according to rules...FREE WILL being one of those, which injects randomness, without breaking the system apart completely...fractals...and/or generating the conditions for similar (but different) patterns to emerge...all within the system...

Creator is outside the system and inside the system...all cosmologies say this...omniscience?!

We are the little flames from the great conflagration...

On the question of who created God...

I am the beginning and the end (the alpha and omega)...and everything in between!

A99

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You reminded me of fractals. This is important as fractals are the blue print of intelligent design. I read your post and tend to agree with you the creator extends inside and outside system. The creator is not bounded.

If God is infinite, and has always been there, what was he/she/it/3.14 doing for all the years prior to the "creation"?
Since the religious texts would lead us to believe that he/she/it/3.14 is quite vain, and without faith "he" is nothing, I find it difficult to swallow the down time prior to the great creation. Sitting around for billions of years before suddenly getting a great idea to create the universe seems very unlike the god of the bible.

What was he/she/it/3.14 doing all that time before deciding to mess with bronze age peoples' heads? God seems to thrive on all the adulation, so just "being" for so long seems out of character. All a bit too Zen.

reply to post by AthlonSavage


As the teachings of my fathers GOD does exist. And god is but one GOD of many gods. God comes from what my people call, "The One Infinite Intelligence", also known as PIE. lol no joke. All Gods spring from The One Infinite Intelligence, or Intelligent Consciousness.

What you do not know is that in time we all will become GOD like capable of "creating" our own reality. Shortly, very shortly, we will all be able to climb the first step and create matter by will.

We are all god for we are all one in the beginning and the end. We are all Alpha and we are all Omega, it is inbetween where individuality begins and individuality ends.In the beginning we are one consciousness and in the end we one consciousness. It is inbetween when we share one consciousness or tear ourselves away from the collective consciousness.

Are you with me so far.


But God springs from The One Infinite Intelligence to answer your question

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What you do not know is that in time we all will become GOD like capable of "creating" our own reality. Shortly, very shortly, we will all be able to climb the first step and create matter by will.

when will this happen? time/date

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Why ask questions you already know the answers to?

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i dont know the answers...if i did i wouldnt of asked

Originally posted by AthlonSavage
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i dont know the answers...if i did i wouldnt of asked

All the cultures of all the world has hinted at it and in the coming months it will happen. Some call it the end, my people call it ascension. The end of one consciousness and then the beginning of another.

Do my esoteric responses annoy you?

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my people call it ascension

who are your people?....are you referring to a cult of people...or people at random with same belief?

Originally posted by AthlonSavage
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my people call it ascension

who are your people?....are you referring to a cult of people...or people at random with same belief?

A cult of people who oppress and enslave for the purpose of attaining Christ Consciousness. That which is pivotal for the masses to ascend for without darkness one cannot appreciate the light and love. For one to not appreciate the light and love he will have not the will to ascend even if he has the want to.

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My people are the ones with the hidden hand