New York Subway System: BIGGEST DISASTER of its 108 years in existence

Originally posted by PaperbackWriter
Hmmm. I thought the subway entrances were sealed off.
So who was down there waiting for the money shot?
Since the subway was shut down, how you reckon that camera man
got out?
He climbed up against the flooding to upper roadway which was also flooded.

Fotoforensics says: Photoshop.

Not to say there is no flooding, just this made for media pic is bogus.

A CCTV camera perhaps?

reply to post by loam


the news clip states that :

the subways and buses are out of operation indefinitly

WTF ????????????????

why are " the buses " out of operation

i appreciate that some bus routes have to be suspended - but NYC has thousands of bus routes - many of which are running on roads that are bone dry

suspending bus operatioins on routes where there is 20cm of stsanding water is understandable - but NYC should beable to offer a limited bus service - operating on roads that have zero flooding

reply to post by OneisOne



That pic must be one reason why Obama said the military is going to be used "for instance: to pump out the subway tunnels".

We'll see how long it takes for that to begin. This is New York after all, not Louisiana. The sight of all that salty seawater is scary. There are loads of sub basements and electrical infrastructure below street level. Salt water plays havoc with copper.

Originally posted by Mamatus
reply to post by DerepentLEstranger

 

Hopefully the homeless was aware of the storm. When I was in NY a friend and I went tunnel hunting for a few days. It was both scary and fascinating. It is flat out mind numbing how many people live UNDER New York City. I think rescuers will find some serious floaters that will up the death toll.

I think you will find that the "homeless" are better tuned to the environment than people that live indoors. They live outside after all. They are survivors. They know better than to hang underground during a Hurricane. Or build a house on the beach. They would seek higher ground. Especially a chance to get indoors in a shelter. They can't wait for a disaster so all the shelters open up. They know where every one is. On the other hand, I can't wait to begin hearing about where all the rats have holed up.

The classic thing for people to say, these days...is "PHOTOSHOP". Check out the pics i've been posting in this ATS thread. This is a SERIOUS MATTER! You have NO IDEA the damage this hurricane has caused. You think the U.S. had problems then, WAIT for it! This will send a wave through an already weak system. Keep in mind, also...Christmas is about 50+ days away. And what about New Years???
Devastating Photos (Sandy's Path)

This could become much more serious than I think some people realize. Even though the storm was less fierce than a major hurricane, it was a lot bigger and has affected a vast area of the eastern seaboard. A 1000 mile stretch of the east coast was inundated. Power is out to how many millions? New York itself is a vertical canyon landscape, with flooded roads and tunnels. Access to places that have food and drinking water will diminish by days end. People are outside right now searching for some place to get a meal. Their apartments are dark. Since the storm was expected to be less severe than a full blown hurricane, lots of people stayed. Now they are imprisoned in the very structures that kept them safe from the deluge.

This could tip either way right now. Either extensive resources from the outside are dispatched to begin clearing the debris so relief efforts can enter the city, or you are going to have a lot of hungry and thirsty people in the next couple of days. How much food is on hand... three days? Does anyone have a handle on access to the heart of the city?

No Problem? Oh, good. For a minute there I was going off.

the lines serving to Uptown area...might be up and running sooner than thought....downtown ..being below sea level might take a while

There are records that show the New York Subway, extending back into the 1850's.

This thread gave me a severe case of Deja-vu, not kidding...

To put it as plain as possible............This Storm Did Severe Damage Period. Those who say no are blind and dont know how to get info. I have relatives who live in those areas and they say its very bad. Death toll will never be known just to let you know how bad it is.

reply to post by loam


You know they can pump it out in time but maybe it is time for an upgrade of the older system? I mean if time is going to keep it out of operation then maybe during that time they can modernize with the new funding coming thru?

reply to post by sd211212


movie 2012?

Nah, it's all just hype.

I read it on another thread so it must be true.....

While I have empathy for those caught in this storm, living on the coasts has both it's benefits and downfalls. When you make the choice to live in such an area, you must also realize and take on the risks involved. You cannot expect the government to come in immediately and clean up the mess- you saw how long it took after Katrina, before any REAL form of help showed up. In the meantime, folks have to take care of themselves, and there shouldn't be a person around that doesn't have an emergency stash of at least 3 days' food, more if possible. No, I'm not saying go all out like "preppers" do, but take some responsibility for yourself, and be prepared for incidents like this, no matter how infrequent these storms seem to be.
Do I follow my own advice? You betcha. I live in an RV on a permanent basis and still have managed to find enough room to stash a month's worth of extra food as well as water purification supplies to last nearly a year. Of course one is much more limited in my environment, but freeze dried food doesn't take up much space nor does it weigh much. While it may not be a 5 star restaurant meal, it will get you by until you can get supplies again.


SK

reply to post by PaperbackWriter


You are not serious, are you? Do you not understand that the picture (in the op) is taken from a security camera, still powered, mounted on a wall or roof (away from the water)? Or perhaps the camera feed was saved onto a harddrive at a more "secure" location, say some sort of control center etc before the camera itself was lost to water damage or lost power.

I have a cousin not too far outside the city and web design is his life he works from home most of the time. It's bad but he has a whole house generator so he's fine, now he just wants his neighbors to leave him alone so he can work. Seems they have no power ,water or a clue on what to do

Originally posted by Xeven
I hope the politicians pay dearly for this. Its not like scientist, science channel, history channel many news oirganizations have not predicted this my entire 44 years of life. They knew it would come and ignored ut

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And, pray tell, what exactly were they supposed to do about it, exactly?

Cover NY in a massive dome? There is only a certain amount of mitigation the authorities can do, within reason, unless you wish to pay sky high taxes for the best money can buy, when you only need it once in a century.

Is this "time" when NY is supposed to be flooded indefinitely per the Navy's future map of America?

I feel so sorry for all that have been affected! It is so sad!

Edgar Cayce's predictions come to mind.

reply to post by antar


I was wondering about the safety of the tunnels even after the water is out, will they be structurally sound? you can see where some of the tunnel walls have collapsed.