China and Russia Support Mass Muder in Syria by Their Inaction

There is a point at which non-interference becomes complicity in mass murder. And that is certainly the case with Russia and China. People in Syria are dying, starving, loosing lyms you name it. The world could help the Syrian people yet these two so called great powers stand aside blocking any possible actions that could help. No one is talking about sending American boys and girls there, but we could put though sanctions on Syria and give small arms to the people there. Yet we can't because of these fools actions. Putin and Hu Jintao should be locked up for war crimes along with Assad!

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Originally posted by travis911
There is a point at which non-interference becomes complicity in mass murder. And that is certainly the case with Russia and China. People in Syria are dying, starving, loosing lyms you name it. The world could help the Syrian people yet these two so called great powers stand aside blocking any possible actions that could help. No one is talking about sending American boys and girls there, but we could put though sanctions on Syria and give small arms to the people there. Yet we can't because of these fools actions. Putin and Hu Jintao should be locked up for war crimes along with Assad!

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I totaly agree.
And if they dont want US or EU troops there,
they should stop that madness themselfs.
The fact they do not, is comlicity. PERIOD

Originally posted by travis911
There is a point at which non-interference becomes complicity in mass murder. And that is certainly the case with Russia and China. People in Syria are dying, starving, loosing lyms you name it. The world could help the Syrian people yet these two so called great powers stand aside blocking any possible actions that could help. No one is talking about sending American boys and girls there, but we could put though sanctions on Syria and give small arms to the people there. Yet we can't because of these fools actions. Putin and Hu Jintao should be locked up for war crimes along with Assad!

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You are absolutely right, the world MUST help the Syrians. Right now they are suffering at the hands of Al Qaeda terror cells calling themselves the "FSA". They are being subjected to random attacks by these "FSA" terrorists who then go running to the nearest Zionist controlled TV crew and blame Assad.

In my opinion your outlook is a bit skewed and overly presumptuous.

To propose that China's and Russia's lack of involvement is on the same level of mass murder is quite irresponsible. Further, it is in fact a part of their foreign policy to limit the amount of direct involvement of other nations, as well as themselves, in situations such as Syria.

If you can recall, they demanded the same in Libya, were they wanted to Limit the EU's + US response in the country.

Again, this is the appearance on the surface, who knows what covert activities are being untaken, as have been alluded to in countless other threads.

Both sides are guilty and its tenuous situations in determining at what point external forces are to get involved.

In my opinion, Russia and China are doing what they have always done, not get overly involved, at least publicly

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If the reports were reading in the MSM media are true, then Yes they are semi-complicit with their inactions. What I think is happening is that they're not buying into all the stories that are coming out of Syria, they don't believe that thousands of people are being massacred, they likely believe it's all false stories the US is planting so they can intervene...That's just my guess

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Of course American 'Boys and Girls are in Syria..CIA engineered the whole deal, armed the 'rebels' (read: Murderous clan infighting, and taliban hopefulls) and waged the media campaign to get us to be 'infuriated and rilled up about the whole plastic show.

Yes, there are people dying...a lot of the rebels are using this as a chance to kill off old rivals and clans, essentially a lot of them are killing each other...the government is protecting it's own, as ANY government in ANY country would do.

Do you reckon the US government would be calling American people who are blowing up government and military resources in central USA 'rebels' or 'freedom fighters'? Terrorists would be the word.

In fact, the USA ships Americans off to dissapear in some hell hole, without trial or any proof of anything as it is...imagine what the US government would do if they were being attacked like the Syrian government is being?

The only reason for the Syrian CIA op, is to cut a path directly to Iran, and emptying the Russian naval base in Syria...Russia (and China) being vehemently opposed to any action being taken against Iran of course.

Bit tricky attacking Iran with half the Russian naval fleet sitting on the doorstep in Syria...eh?

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and the US supports the mass murder financially.

your point was?

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I recently wrote to my MP suggesting a safe zone, where no weapons are allowed, and civillians could go to be safe from the bombings and fighting, also hospitals and aid camps could be set up by the Red Cross/Crescent etc, at the Turkish/Syrian border, imposed by the UN, which could be controlled by Russian or Chinese troops, thus putting any fears of Western military intervention to bed, I received a reply and he said he would try to take the matter to William Hague, although I don't hold out much hope. I for one don't want to see foreign troops in Syria especially Western ones, but the Russians are blocking action, not because they fear Western intervention, but because they have their own agenda.

And the CIA and the US support mass murders by supplying the FSA (otherwise known as All-CIA-duh) with weapons and refusing to accept anything but Assad's abdication. No proof, but I'm betting that a good chunk of things blamed on Assad were done by US agents making it look like Assad.

Originally posted by travis911
There is a point at which non-interference becomes complicity in mass murder. And that is certainly the case with Russia and China. People in Syria are dying, starving, loosing lyms you name it.

And conversely there's a point in which interference is actual mass murder, not just complicity in it.

Maybe if the good ole US of A weren't so busy arming everyone fecker out there and setting them on a rampage to destablize problematic governments everyone would still have their lyms (sic) and China and Russia would be able to not non-interfere.

Originally posted by MysterX


Bit tricky attacking Iran with half the Russian naval fleet sitting on the doorstep in Syria...eh?

Sigh! Not this non-sense again? There is no Russian Naval fleet sitting in or off Syria. Stop listening to the notoriously inept conspiracy websites and look at reality for a change. All the vessels that exercised in the Mediterranean during 2012 returned to their respective fleets. The only Russian Navy vessel currently deployed to Syria is the Amur Class Floating Workshop PM-56. The previous Floating Workshop was the PM-138 and was replaced by the PM-56 last week.

Ask yourself the question. How do Russian Black Sea Fleet or any other Fleet major combatant vessels deploy to Syria without being noticed?

The reality of the situation in regards to Russian Navy in Syria.

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The only other Russian Black Sea Fleet vessels in the Mediterranean are exercising with a NATO nation, Italy.
The Destroyer Smetlivy was recently on a good will visit to Malta before heading off to Italy for the exercise. A Black Sea landing craft recently visited another NATO nation, Greece with a good will visit.

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The Black Sea Fleet Tug also involved in the Italian exercise was recently in Malta along with the Destroyer.

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I can pick up the Morse Code weather broadcast from the Tug here in the UK. The Tug has now deployed off Italy as of 18 GMT, 29th October

8345 Khz

RCV DE RMYZ 265 18 29 2201 265 = SML FOR RJE73 RJH45 = @1806Z
29181 99366 10156 41598 22914 10180 40120 50000 70200 81711 22202 00240 299// 399// 29014 = + RMYZ K

8345 RCV DE RMYZ 29181 99366 10156 22202 @1806Z

36.6N 15.6E Heading ? Speed 6-10 Knots

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From the Morse Code on the 26th October. Floating Workshop PM-138 heading home after being deployed at Tartus, Syria.

5372 Khz

RCV DE RBIZ 26001 99347 10349 22252 @1815Z

34.7N 34.9E Heading South West at 6-10 Knots

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The Morse Code from Floating Workshop PM-56 as it approaches Tartus for the handover with PM-138.

7763 Khz

RCV DE RIR98 26001 99349 10355 22200 @0006Z

34.9N 35.5E Hove to

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So there you have the reality. There is no Russian combatant vessels or deployed fleet in support of Syria. Every vessel that previously deployed to Syria during 2012 returned to their respective fleets months ago.

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