I will fight no more.......

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The U.S. deserved what they got and they deserved alot more than what they did get for their "manifest destiny" The day did come when my ancestors regretted not killing the white people as soon as they got off their ships in the 1600's.

Weapons of mass destruction were first employed when europeans came to this section of the earth, in the form of their diseases.

Thank you Wrabbit for your post. Being Native American myself, it never ceases to amaze me how most people still only know one side of the story, if anything at all about our past. So, thank you for your time, your thought and concern to post this story here.

I'd like to suggest a book for anyone interested in knowing more about Native American's past to read. It's:

"Bury My Heat At Wounded Knee" by Dee Brown.

History (his story) books are written by the "winners" and are always one-sided. Mr. Brown investigated well known events in American history and found what happened from the Native American's side, or what led up to the incident. It puts a whole different perspective on many events from what we have been taught.

As to the discussion of casinos - remember because reservations are separate from the US they also do not receive the help other places do. If you look at the unemployment, homeless, poverty and health conditions numbers, you'll find reservations are worse off than the poorest inner city ghettos. Their only help comes from individuals and churches, not the government. Casinos have helped on all the reservations in jobs, building health facilities and education. Most are overseen by the elders and the profits go to the betterment of the tribe as a whole. Sure there may be some exceptions, but the majority have helped the tribes. Maybe they help take back America, one nickel at a time.

Again - thank you Wrabbit. It meant a lot to me and my Native blood isn't Nez Perce. Blessing to you.

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Thanks for your opinion, I think I am total agreement. I just wanted an outside opinion, and someone who could explain why I support the Natives a little better than I can.

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This article was exceptional in describing the efforts of both Leaders and the honesty description of the deception by the General. To violate a "Flag of Truce" is the ultimate violation of Civilizations. The General violated that Truce.
A lesson is definitely here in the account and that lesson is, without knowing your enemies culture and assuming that your conception of them is accurate, leads your to misjudge and misunderstand their reasoning, resolve and determination.
During this entire episode of history the Indians were simply attempting to evacuate to a safer location for the protection of their people.

History has a way of repeating itself when "Arrogance of So Called Total Knowledge and Under Estimation of Purpose" against an adversary, will leave you winning some battles but having to live with an incomplete conclusion to the conflict for ever. Perfect example, North Korea, Iraq & Afghanistan.
And again not realizing that these countries Iraq and Afghanistan have been Struggling in Wars for over 2000 years, they do not know surrender, they just simply change tactics as their numbers allow.

A large Thank You for your time and effort in clearing up a portion of our history.
Excellent article.

That is a great story and a tribute to a proud and fiercely independent people. The story of the Nez Perce isn't often taught in schools though it rightfully ranks among the greatest achievements in the history of warfare. Nice job of retelling the tale Wrabbit.

O.O. Howard is an interesting figure who was in the Union army during the civil war. He was at most of the major battles fought in the East against R E Lee - 7 days, Fredericksburg, Antietam, Gettysburg. It was his XI corps made up mostly of German immigrants that Jackson surprised at Chancellorsville.

Howard was a progressive for his time, an abolitionist who fought for civil rights for blacks after the war and founded Howard University in Washington, D.C. . Devoutly religious and fearless in battles he managed to lose an arm during the battle of Fair Oaks (7 Pines). He was a recipient of the Medal of Honor.