Ask an Illuminated Rosicrucian Mad Hatter anything...

Originally posted by CaticusMaximus

Originally posted by ringlejames

Im sorry you do not understand. Good day sir. This is the last post I am going to respond to you. Lash me all you want. It will just be wasted bandwidth. As well as a waste of your time. I am here to answer questions, my part has been fulfilled even if yours has not.

You challenge, there for you are not ready. Good day to you sir.

This issue, over whether non-human animals have the same consciousness as human animals, has always been interesting to me. Ive even looked into Rosicrucianism and thought about joining in times past, as many, or even most of the things Ive read they believe, seem like a good match to what I believe. However we then get to the issue of non-human animals, and it seems the from the majority to the totality of these kinds of organizations believe that non-human is less than to human, which I cannot disagree with more. They always have their reasons, and their dogma to fall back onto when pressed for an explanation, but to me, thats all it comes down to in the end; dogma, and a strict adherence to it.

In that vein, these organizations are no different than mainstream religions.

I do not believe that it is the non-human animal itself that acts as the function to whether it has consciousness, soul, spirit, essence, etc. I think they all do. I think it is the human animal and its ability or lack there of to sense these things in other creatures that shapes the beliefs of these societies and organizations, of which then these beliefs are passed on and fed to those willing to accept them without questioning.

Now what you say here ringle, about: "You challenge, there for you are not ready", makes me very dubious of all other things that you have said, of which most of them I find fascinating, especially about Atlantis. I take an opposite philosophy to life and knowledge, summed up by the Buddha: "Believe nothing, not even from me, unless it agrees with your own logic and reason". Questioning is perfectly valid to me, and in fact absolutely necessary for a being to achieve independence and maturity, perhaps what we might call self-actualization. Believing with blind faith only creates a dependent; somewhat like an artificial being, created and programmed and unquestioning in their service to the ideals that have been given to them to uphold... a machine.

That is exactly what we need to get rid of in this world; unquestioning and blind faith. God does not wish for loyal slaves, it wishes for its children to think for themselves and add and contribute to creation, not just to be a gear in the machine, only doing that which is has been told to do by some external force acting upon it.

"I do not feel obliged to believe that a God that has imbued us with sense, reason, and intelligent, has intended us to forgo their use". -Galileo.

And never challenging, never questioning, does not mean one is not ready; it means one is on their way to becoming a self-actualized being, free of or becoming free from illusionary dogmas, and ready or becoming ready to, for lack of a better term, 'ascend' to a grander state of being.

Question everything. No one can show you the way home... assist you perhaps, but ultimately the map and legend are inside of YOU, not in the letters/words of an external dogma that someone told you was true.

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They have the same consciousness as us for everything has the same consciousness. It is what type of consciousness do they have. Something only has as much consciousness as we give it. The more anyone person thinks about it there will be another born doing the same the same thing increasing the collective understanding. Stuff we are just born with.

If you want to follow someone who had a truly public voice of our teachings I would highly reccommend John F. Kennedy speaches. That man has more truth in his bones than "almost any televised voice in history. As much as I would like to admit not to be true. Another voice of truth would be that of Adolf Hitler. Just in way of his understanding. I cant stand the man personally but he did have an end goal.

The balance of the universe the balance of consciousness. Lucifer6 seems more of light than I, or darkness how ever you want to look at it. For it is all the same. He could have a better understanding for all I know. However the understanding will be the same, he will have a certain flare about.

Originally posted by daydreamin
Thanks for all in this thread.


My question is......What is the real meaning of the word 'Amen' when ending a prayer or intention?

i think it has to do with this....en.wikipedia.org...

Originally posted by Enkitha2nd

Originally posted by CaticusMaximus
Could anyone speak more on these three days of darkness, anything more in detail? My grandmother used to firmly believe in them before she passed away; she was catholic.

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No. Nobody should, but probably will.

Why shouldnt anyone?

Originally posted by CaticusMaximus

Originally posted by Enkitha2nd

Originally posted by CaticusMaximus
Could anyone speak more on these three days of darkness, anything more in detail? My grandmother used to firmly believe in them before she passed away; she was catholic.

edit on 11/4/2012 by CaticusMaximus because: (no reason given)

No. Nobody should, but probably will.

Why shouldnt anyone?

What is the point of answer questions which have already been asked.

One of the worse chooses someone can make is to repeat oneself. In more than one way.

With kind regards
I thank you

Originally posted by ringlejames

Originally posted by Enkitha2nd
ringlejames,

Your response put a smile on my face, Thank You very much. How may I pass along my email to you without blasting on the feed?

On this site and of all sites I use the same to retain membership with the same. You can find find the same to be true on yahoo.

I got that and will get to you a message in just a few moments.

Originally posted by lucifer6

Originally posted by daydreamin
Thanks for all in this thread.


My question is......What is the real meaning of the word 'Amen' when ending a prayer or intention?

All men. All beings. As in the Law of One. As in The One Infinite Creator. As in The One Infinite Intelligences.

As in All one.

Almost the only Total Truth in all of your teachings in all of religions. Can be condensed down to this One Word. This One World. Together not separate. No matter how you say it it is said.

Pick your meaning for they are All the Same. All one.

Originally posted by daydreamin
Also, does the obelisk have any mystical power to it? I have a 'feeling' that it helps to balance the energy in it's location by ridding the area of negative energy and maybe even help to keep natural disasters or bad weather away?

Before we get to the root of any question. Ask your self what the Law of One teaches. Oneness.

Do not ask if it has mystical power. Rather. Ask the obelisk is. I would say a building. A structure. I would say a tool. For it must have been build by some being correct.

What purpose does a tool play in reality, but a "thing" doing its part to push something else towards oneness. reach

Originally posted by daydreamin
And if not what is the significance of the obelisk and why places like the Vatican, City of London, and D.C. have one?

As for your question that isn't a question, the answer is within your own words. So yes. And there are Know coincidences. Most would have asked the same way for a reason. Because deep down they would already know the answer. You would be surprised what is at work behind the veil. Could it be Oneness.Could it be oneness.




Many thanks in advance Brother!

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It is giving Honor and Glory to Amon-Ra; the Ancient Egyptian Priesthood who's focus of study/worship was on the Sun. Je.sus means Hail Zeus. Zues in the Greek Sun god. The word God is derived from a number of sources, one of which is Gott - a German word meaning the Sun in the sky. The bringer of light...The morning star are with double meanings: the Sun in the sky as it rises and of course Venus ( Lucifer - Light )...Jesus is Lucifer...Divide and concur. Call " God " whatever you like in terms of YOUR intellectual understanding at any current moment. The end result is all the same, your path is your own. Spirituality is the key. Ever time you say Amen or give thanks/Glory to Je.sus you are giving glory to the Sun in the sky. Even when you use the word God you give glory to the sun in the sky as it is the giver and taker of all life. Too much sun and things burn, shrivel and dissipate to nothing - life snuffed out. Not enought sun and you and everything else freezes, and of course life ends on that extreme as well. Solomon = Sol.om.on . OM is the Hindu tone for many meditations. Sol is short for Solar ( Sun ). On is really An, short for Anu who is apart of the Anunnaki. So Meditate on the Sun and give glory to Anu = Solomon's seal is so powerful because of this. Don't know what or who the Anunnaki is? Google it.

Originally posted by CaticusMaximus

Originally posted by Enkitha2nd

Originally posted by CaticusMaximus
Could anyone speak more on these three days of darkness, anything more in detail? My grandmother used to firmly believe in them before she passed away; she was catholic.

edit on 11/4/2012 by CaticusMaximus because: (no reason given)

No. Nobody should, but probably will.

Why shouldnt anyone?

Because it does concern ceremonial ritualistic practices of sacred science which is thought to be magic. Sound and Light, mixing of chemicals,....Hook, Flail, Tuning Fork, Ankh...Blood and Marrow, Iron and Steel, Gold and Sapphire in unique form. Finally the Scarab or Pheonix. The Falcon or King's Cross is achieved.

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So ringlejames who do you propose killed JFK and why?



Many thanks!

Is sigil still around? One of my favorite artists is of the rosicrucian order and as of late I've been wondering more and more about the occult. I also laughed at many of the responses in this thread early on. These people did not want to seek the knowledge themselves no instead like spoilt children they demand tell me now all of your secrets! tell me all of your knowledge. What good is knowledge if it is told, not realized? Sigil if you're still around i'd like to know what you are referring to when you speak of the grotto. Thanks.

Originally posted by daydreamin
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So ringlejames who do you propose killed JFK and why?



Many thanks!

I do not propose anything. There could have been somebodies within the 300 people that made up the family builderburg. And that somebody could have highered somebodies from a private security firm to take care of business.

The question is not who killed jfk. More like why JFK got killed. People always ask the wrong questions. Although it is programmed in you through manipulation of symbolism or make like forcing you to confuse the meaning of symbolism. In the end, JFK knew too much, said too much, and had to be taken care of. What he knew was individuality and the power within. You can hear our ancient teachings in his speeches. Likely coincidence, never. Know ask yourself who gained from this "experience". Many. Many had a hand and a fingerprint in it. Some were "families", were paid off in fame or were gave a push up in the family fortune.

JFK was an independent voice and TPTB made a mistake trusting him. With his single hand he stopped an entire world from going at War, and swayed the lives of many within the families to his way of thinking.

The Family still to this day fight for the truth to be known, but they for some reason have very bad luck favoring the unfortunate and tragic when ever someone steps up for the truth to be known.

The World was supposed to go into nuclear in the sixties. We had entire underground complexes dugout and stocked whole cavities three men tall stacked with rations for many numbers. Caves in mountains. Complexes carved out of caves just for the purpose of nuclear shelter. Miles and miles. And it just so happened that although many of these caves were dug for the purpose of shelter, you can go today on public land and take ounces of gold ADAY out of the those complexes. You may have to bring a dozen miles of fishing line and batteries for a week. And food and water. But a day in there and you can pay for your car your house. No longer protect government land but open public land and national park land. But you have to be very very smart.

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I am still around. I just moved to a different State in the US and I have been in my "landing time" for the past few weeks. I will backtrack through my thread soon and answer any questions that are serious enough to be considered.

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Good to hear that you still are here

I have a question.

Why are Abrahamic religions like Islam, Christians and Jews so violent??Why do they keep fighting.
Will these religions end??
The non abrahamic religions like Hinduism , Buddhism seem to be quite peaceful then this.
What are your opinion on this.I sometimes feel that Abrahamic religions were a conspiracy against Humanity where everybody keeps fighting about their religion.On the other hand religions like Buddhism,Hinduism,Shamanism are more spiritual.

Be thankful for the Ancients, for the way would be lost without them.

If you and yours know the way of the light and the truth, why do you hide and practice in secrecy? Are we, the citizens, who follow civic responsibilities and duties, guilty and in compliance with those who make the rules. Are we destined to suffer as a result of believing in and following the laws as written because of our civic responsibilities? Why is your knowledge hidden from the masses? Why have you and yours hidden it from the masses? And, if you and yours do possess the truth and the way and the power and understanding of the Universe, why can you not overcome the confines and restrictions of those subverting the truth?

Originally posted by Bilk22
If you and yours know the way of the light and the truth, why do you hide and practice in secrecy?

Who ever said that we did?

The knowledge that we posses is not a secret knowledge. It's basic morality. It's stuff you find in the Bible or reading the great philosophers. Nothing more, nothing less.

The secrets are how we confer that knowledge, but you could walk down to your local bookstore and find more than you'd ever find in a lodge.

Why is your knowledge hidden from the masses?

It is not.

Why have you and yours hidden it from the masses?

Because tyrants and potentates have fought to strike down that which they cannot control, and they can not control free men.

And, if you and yours do possess the truth and the way and the power and understanding of the Universe, why can you not overcome the confines and restrictions of those subverting the truth?

We posses no more truth, power or understanding about the Universe than anyone else. We're just willing to spend more time thinking about it than most people.

Originally posted by JoshNorton

Originally posted by Bilk22
If you and yours know the way of the light and the truth, why do you hide and practice in secrecy?

Who ever said that we did?

The knowledge that we posses is not a secret knowledge. It's basic morality. It's stuff you find in the Bible or reading the great philosophers. Nothing more, nothing less.

The secrets are how we confer that knowledge, but you could walk down to your local bookstore and find more than you'd ever find in a lodge.

Why is your knowledge hidden from the masses?

It is not.

Why have you and yours hidden it from the masses?

Because tyrants and potentates have fought to strike down that which they cannot control, and they can not control free men.

And, if you and yours do possess the truth and the way and the power and understanding of the Universe, why can you not overcome the confines and restrictions of those subverting the truth?

We posses no more truth, power or understanding about the Universe than anyone else. We're just willing to spend more time thinking about it than most people.

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Well your reply contradicts what the OP has been intimating.

Originally posted by Bilk22
Well your reply contradicts what the OP has been intimating.

Ah. Nevermind. The OP is a loon. I thought you were talking about Mason. My mistake. Carry on.

Originally posted by JoshNorton

Originally posted by Bilk22
Well your reply contradicts what the OP has been intimating.

Ah. Nevermind. The OP is a loon. I thought you were talking about Mason. My mistake. Carry on.

So what do you know about the Masons? Are you a 33rd degree Mason? I'm not trying to be antagonistic. Just asking if anyone less than that level would have to full inside knowledge.

Originally posted by Bilk22
So what do you know about the Masons? Are you a 33rd degree Mason? I'm not trying to be antagonistic. Just asking if anyone less than that level would have to full inside knowledge.

I'm a 32° and have a copy of the 33° ritual, though it will probably be another 5 years before I can go through it myself.