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Originally posted by nv4711
Originally posted by earthalien50
Originally posted by nv4711
Originally posted by earthalien50
Originally posted by Putyournamehere
reply to post by karam
That's because there are no aliens, you should pick up a bible, and convert. Now.
How can the bible believers not believe in aliens? What was Jesus and the other deities that supposedly reside in the heavens? If they are not aliens, what are they? I respect others beliefs, but interpreting the bible to one's personal preferences is the biggest problem with organized religions in my opinion.
I believe that if governments admitted to alien visitors it would turn the world upside down. There would be a paradigm shift that would disrupt the powers that be.
Why is man so arrogant to believe that advanced civilizations would use our type of communication? Don't you think that they would have a more advanced form of communication? We have not even scratched the surface of technology. How does someone receive quantum communications that travel beyond the speed of light? We can't do that yet. SETI has only covered a small area as the one poster said. Looking for our primitive form of communication is limited to civilizations that use it.
edit on 28-10-2012 by earthalien50 because: (no reason given)edit on 28-10-2012 by earthalien50 because: (no reason given)
Don't feed the troll and don't take the bait.
You resort to attacks instead of arguing the subject of SETI and aliens. I guess questioning the bible makes me an alien troll.
Relax, I was calling the other guy the troll - I meant that you shouldn't give him the time of day, because that's usually a useless exercise.
Originally posted by Putyournamehere
reply to post by karam
That's because there are no aliens, you should pick up a bible, and convert. Now.
Originally posted by olaru12
The "others" are well aware of your existence but think you are primitive, tribal, violent, racists, talking monkeys and have very little in common with you. And they especially don't like the way you mistreat the animals you share the planet with. That's why they don't talk to you!edit on 28-10-2012 by olaru12 because: (no reason given)
you mean like posts on an internet forum? I wonder how many aliens have tried to post here only to get shot down as trolls. its kind of silly if think about it but at the same time its as as silly as trying to pick up radio signals. Why not scan the internet looking for advanced alien contact?
Originally posted by LiberalSceptic
reply to post by pheonix358
Indeed, but if they do want to communicate with us, they would probably try to use something that our "simple minds" can comprehend and make sense of. Both with tech and mind.
Originally posted by karam
according to drake equation there are many alien civilization we should have got a alien signal till now its been 30 year since seti established.
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Originally posted by ZetaRediculian
just some random thoughts on this..
Signals from Pulsar Stars were once thought to be ET type communication.
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How can you differentiate between a "naturally" occuring signal and an "intelligent" type signal. At what point do you say that it is an itelligent signal?
Also, how would you know if it wasn't just noise?
some forms of digital information look like noise unless you have the correct decoder. If you open up a jpeg photo in say notepad, you get what looks like very random character strings,
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notepad took the binary code and interprited as characters instead of pixels. How could we identify something that looks like noise as intellegence?
edit on 28-10-2012 by ZetaRediculian because: (no reason given)
I use to think this but have come believe that this is incorrect. "Infinite possibilities" also implies that it is possible that life does not exist out there, intelligent or otherwise.
Originally posted by LiberalSceptic
reply to post by SpearMint
And due to the size of the universe, I think you my friend underestimate the chances of things happening. Infinite size, infinite possibilities.
Originally posted by inverslyproportional
It is a quite silly and short sighted belief to think that we discovered and harnassed the best form of communication in our technological infancy.
We now have discovered quantum entanglement, which we can now, with present technology manipulate, and use as a form of mores code to send signals instantly across any distance. In time, we will be able to manipulate this into a form of instant internet, where we could send and receive real time info across even intergalactic space to other galaxies, without the pathetic lightspeed barrier concerning us, like it does today.
40 minutes to send data to mars, 40 minutes to send a reply back......pathetic, and altogether an exercise in useless waste to any space faring race.
Any advanced race would be using entanglement to send signals at the minimum, as lightspeed would be the equivelent of sending carrier pigeons, or the pony express,
(from wikipedia)
In quantum information theory, a no-communication theorem is a result which gives conditions under which instantaneous transfer of information between two observers is impossible. These results can be applied to understand the so-called paradoxes in quantum mechanics such as the EPR paradox or violations of local realism obtained in tests of Bell's theorem. In these experiments, the no-communication theorem shows that failure of local realism does not lead to what could be referred to as "spooky communication at a distance" (in analogy with Einstein's labeling of quantum entanglement as "spooky action at a distance").
Originally posted by nv4711
What do you want SETI to do? Throw up their hands and not do anything at all, because all we got is Radio Telescopes?