Is this for real?? Think Again.

reply to post by JAK


I'm stealing this for the Christian threads. As it so happens, it falls beautifully in line with my thesis in the thread linked in my signature, which explain that the Christian god is a representation of what we want to be, and that's why people worship it.

Reasoning at its finest.

reply to post by JAK


With regard to the Bertrand Russell quote, this is one of the main reasons that a double blind scientific method must be employed, if one is to call their work scientific. Most of what passes for scientific truth today, is in fact pseudoscience dressed up to deceive the public. Scientists have become minions of TPTB and assist in carrying out their agenda. Scientists will find anything to be true, that they are paid to find true. Scientists are both dishonest and biased and without the careful application of the double blind method, nothing they tout should be considered valid.
Here is a brilliant paper, that makes the case for what all of us are up against. It is a superbly researched paper from the General Science Journal and is readily comprehensible and very well presented. Our world has one foot in our primitive past and one foot in enlightenment.

www.gsjournal.net...

reply to post by spleenika


3 pages of responses, with the vast majority being negative and argumentive. The aurguments being based, to the greater extent, on prejudice, ignorance and personal ego.

At least that is what it looks like to me, a consumate arguer/debater and exasperator

I have signed up for this course and am looking forward to exploring its merit.

What the hell! right!?!?

Thank you OP for posting this info.

What was at one required basics for children, is now double-dutch to most adults.

Read it and weep.

www.triviumeducation.com...

How many people realise 9/11 was a media fakery extravaganza, for instance.
Not many at all, worldwide, I wager!

Yet 100 years ago, children would have seen through the scam faster
than you could say foinkymacstoinkavitch, to say nothing of adults.

But we have been dumbed down so much, we now don't know our collective
arses from our collective elbows.

www.cluesforum.info...

Back to basics folks. Back to basics.

Originally posted by doesntmakesense
How to reason and argue? Is that REALLY an academic course?

Cmon man, we're not THAT gullible.

LOL You're kidding, right? I'm not going to get into a debate on all the stupid &%$! so many here believe in. I keep saying to myself that these people really don't believe the crap they're spewing, that they're just pretend-believing because they're bored to death.

If this is a conspiracy site, then the conspiracy is mostly the people here trying to infect the world with superstitions and just downright impossibilities.

reply to post by spleenika


very good point you raise.
well here is something to consider. Buddha and Christ (weather or not you believe in these figures is unimportant) both stated that "we" the human race..are asleeep..and that its possible for us to awaken..or "wake up".

So going back thousands of years there has been this concept of being asleep...even though we think we are awake. to me this is very interesting, so I studied this idea an awful long time. it took me into learning about hypnosis.

in hypnosis, the concept is that people go in and out of trances all the time...like when driving a car...you go into auto pilot mode...well that's a trance state..but before i told you it was a trance you would just not have even thought it unusual..and its not unusual..its a natural part of being human...but it leaves us open to manipulation.

Another example is if you get confused during a conversion..or if someone does something unexpectedly ...it "throws you off"...this also is a trance state, and it can be induced really easily and quickly...and once your in this state of confusion people can..pick your pocket..for example, without you even realizing. Or they can implant ideas or even commands into you unconscious mind...much like "These are not the droids your looking for"..that turns out to be a real trick...look up NLP and instant inductions.

There are even a few hypnotist that think human beings are in a permanent, sustained trance state. I also believe this to be the case. I do not think we are in a computerized false reality like the matrix, but i am convinced that almost all people are asleep. this being asleep, goes back to what Buddha described. and I think the cause of this being asleep..is education. because from a very early age we are indoctrinated with a form of mind control and propaganda...its called school...religions do the same thing.

this programming overwrites whatever our natural instincts and thoughts would have been..and instead we are assigned a set of beliefs and nothing more than programmed. the powers that be have to program society through education systems in order to have a cohesive functioning pyramid structure...made up of willing participants..but how willing would we be if we had not first been indoctrinated into it? Exactly..if it were not for education systems..and the media...people would be truly individual...this probably would be a bad thing however.... as it would be anarchy.

Due of this foundation of programming...we are made extremely suggestible. Being suggestible is a term used in hypnosis..it means a group of people who are very easy to influence and guide (the sheep or the flock as called in Christianity..or sheeple as known in other circles)..this is the case with society because we are already programmed through years of school etc. the reason the population are so suggestible to advertising..for instance...is because the same TV that we grew up with as part of our normal childhoods..is the same TV we still have in our room and we still get sucked in by it..even though a TV is completely unnatural. The TV is part of our cultural programming.

A few good examples of how suggestible society is..and how easily easily manipulated almost all people are.

1. The number of people who own uneconomical and polluting cars.(not a logical choice)
2. The number of people on Facebook...giving away their privacy for free..(because its the popular thing to do).
3. The number of people who get married, almost always in the mid to late 20's. (societal programming)
4. The number of people who repeatedly get married and divorced.
5. The number of people who believe voting makes a difference.
6. The number of people who join the army..to kill and be killed..usually due to notions of patriotism.
7. The number of people who believe in patriotism. ( a term so broad it could mean and justify literally anything) example... Nazi Germany..history looks at the German population as being "brainwashed" by Hitler, yet people don't see the same brainwashing take place in every country, just not to the same ends.
8. When the media says something is a number 1 movies, book or must have item...people believe it and are influenced to desire these things...sending sales rocketing...Examples, harry Potter, Avatar and so on and so on.

i could go on and on...but i need to log on to Facebook and friend some people i don't know...then go and get my skinny latte in Starbucks, where I should be seen to be seen...because thats the "normal thing to do"

We will discuss how to identify, analyze, and evaluate arguments by other people (including politicians, used car salesmen, and teachers) and how to construct arguments of your own in order to help you decide what to believe or what to do.





maybe i,m getting this wrong but seriously your basically saying your taking a course in helping you argue or help u not too believe in so much?...thats basically it in a nutshell?.....i,ve heard it all now.

reply to post by sparky31

It seems you are completely unaware of the logical flaws common in thinking. Like a sailor unaware of his own boat taking on water.

A wise man will tell you what a fool he truly is.