Is this for real?? Think Again.

reply to post by Itisnowagain


im trying to smooth things over, before they disintegrate into a argument. Im a mediator of peace.

reply to post by AthlonSavage


This thread is not about avoiding arguments. This thread is about becoming skilled at arguing.
There is a course that you can do that teaches you how to argue.

Originally posted by Itisnowagain
reply to post by spleenika

 

You can 'tell' that it is a joke.
Maybe the course is as well.

Maybe the course is a joke as well? See that is the kind of fallacy of logic, that you will learn about in this course.

For example: 100% of people who breathe oxygen die. Therefore, oxygen is lethal.

That is a fallacy of logic. There is a name for this type of fallacy. What is it's name? I don't know, so I'm going to take the course. After the course, I can tell you what that is called, and that would be one of the nasty names the course instructors are referring too in the spirit of humor.

reply to post by Itisnowagain

This thread is not about avoiding arguments. This thread is about becoming skilled at arguing.
There is a course that you can do that teaches you how to argue.

The knowledge is found by moving back to the TRUE source. Argument is in the zone of thinking conceptulization. The movement to true source of knowledge is behind this, the Non Duality.

reply to post by spleenika


There is no need to argue when the truth is known.

reply to post by spleenika


The course isnt a joke, whats a joke is to think someone needs to take course to learn anything of benefit. If the course is about exposing people to bad Professor humour and that will row a persons boat then they should sign up for course.

reply to post by AthlonSavage


I agree with you completely, and look forward to the day I join back with the source. And when looking at the bigger picture, little things like arguments, and logic are rather unimportant.

Though here on this earth, on this corner of the internet, I feel learning about logic and reasoning could really benefit the community here. I believe there is a disproportionate amount of gullibility found in ATS, and I would like to help educate those with the drive to be educated.

People can spend all day denying other peoples ignorance, but I think the best progress would be to deny ones own ignorance.

reply to post by spleenika


The ignoring of ones own true nature is the only ignorance there is.

reply to post by spleenika

I believe there is a disproportionate amount of gullibility found in ATS, and I would like to help educate those with the drive to be educated.

Its only a belief, and thats a relative point of view. As a person moves back to the TRUE source it becomes clear all views are relative and equal. A true mind which views the world will know this and wont be interested in educating anyone because there is no points of benefit that can be added to the relative arguments.

Originally posted by AthlonSavage
reply to post by spleenika

 

The course isnt a joke, whats a joke is to think someone needs to take course to learn anything of benefit. If the course is about exposing people to bad Professor humour and that will row a persons boat then they should sign up for course.

Need? I don't know about needing to take this course. I do believe there are benefits to be had from it, but obviously people could live their lives without gaining whatever knowledge could be had from this class.

For me its a want, rather then a need. I personally desire to sharpen my skills in this arena. I wouldn't expect everyone to be interested in it. On the contrary, I expect there to be very few who desire to be educated just for the sake of learning.

It is ok not to know.
youtu.be...

In fact it is the truth.

Originally posted by AthlonSavage
reply to post by spleenika A true mind which views the world will know this and wont be interested in educating anyone because there is no points of benefit that can be added to the relative arguments.

Now that is also a belief, relative to your point of view. Is it not?

reply to post by spleenika

edit: Early on, Ignorance is already taking the lead. Most people would rather not learn about proper logic and reasoning. I wish I could say I was surprised.

Lighten up dude... it's not as if you've just discovered the holy grail of all human cognitive processes.

Critical thought has a well documented history, it's concepts and applications are widely available for free on the net - no big deal there.

wiki

The critical thinking philosophical frame traces its roots in analytic philosophy and pragmatist constructivism which dates back over 2,500 years, as in the Buddha's Teachings: mainly in the kalama sutta and the Abhidharma; as well as the Greek Socratic tradition in which probing questions were used to determine whether claims to knowledge based on authority could be rationally justified with clarity and logical consistency.

One would think that an individual that has such an interest in the disciplines descibed and linked within the OP would better negotiate perceived dissonance amongst the replies... no??

reply to post by spleenika

For me its a want, rather then a need. I personally desire to sharpen my skills in this arena. I wouldn't expect everyone to be interested in it. On the contrary, I expect there to be very few who desire to be educated just for the sake of learning.

If you are driven by the want then you are being compelled by a seeking force. Sometimes we NEED to follow the WANT as it has hides for us a eddifice of knowledge that we can only claim by going into it. What you eventually learn from journey into it may be something of tangible benefit to you, or alternatively yeild nothing seemly of benefit. If you NEED to follow a WANT, then do it alone as the compelling force is seeking you alone out and not others.

reply to post by spleenika

Now that is also a belief, relative to your point of view. Is it not?

Yes but see my previous reply to explain this seeming discrepancy.

Originally posted by AthlonSavage
If you NEED to follow a WANT, then do it alone as the compelling force is seeking you alone out and not others.

So everyone who "wants" to share something they think is cool and relevant to the community, should actually in fact keep it to themselves and not contribute?

We would have an empty website if your opinion here was applied equally to others.

reply to post by Itisnowagain


Meeting in Not-Knowing with Unmani. www.not-knowing.com

Nice Vid

MeowH!!

reply to post by Perhaps


You are right, that was crass of me. It is there to stay though however, as my time to edit it further has elapsed.

And while I am interested in the topic matter, I am not yet educated in it. The course starts the end of next month, and I look forward to learning more about this subject.

reply to post by spleenika

So everyone who "wants" to share something they think is cool and relevant to the community, should actually in fact keep it to themselves and not contribute?

We would have an empty website if your opinion here was applied equally to others.

What you have inadvertantly just exposed is the conflict of separation of awarness.
If your awareness is far from the true source you are in a relative point which is recognised as the self identity.

If conversely close to the source then you are in the zone of Non-duality and not the separated self identity.

Depending on whether your mind is sitting either as its Self identity or Non self (Non-duality) the answer will be different. Its completely your choice to choose.

reply to post by doesntmakesense

How to reason and argue? Is that REALLY an academic course?

Cmon man, we're not THAT gullible.

If you frequented the religious threads, you would see how desperately that kind of academic course may be needed...