Major Banks, Governmental Officials and Their Comrade Capitalists Targets of Spire Law Group, LLP's

Originally posted by antonia
This isn't serious and the headline should have tipped you off to that-"Comrade Capitalists"? It's red baiting. This is nothing, nothing will come of it and it will get tossed out.

Well, only socialism and communism can control the bilderbergers.......nothing new!

The easiest thing to do in america is to call someone a marxist and kill the conversation *sigh*

"Obama is a socialist, lets vote for romney" meanwhile when SPUSA is asked what they think of those allegations they reply "is this a serious question?" and who can blame them if some people are too stupid to know the difference between liberalism and progressivism.

Originally posted by gps777
reply to post by adjensen

 

If ATS was still giving out "Way above top secret awards" as they used to,you would have just recieved my vote.

That was some great digging on the law firm and to the topic adjensen.

So all in all,this isn`t really news,its dodgy advertising for a dodgy law firm.

edit on 26-10-2012 by gps777 because: (no reason given)

Whenever someone brings the corruption to light it is always about attention seeking?

Why not just ADMIT you want the bilderbergers to get away with stealing trillions of TAX-PAYER dollars? It is probably not out of your pocket anyway, so why would you care?

I swear the hypocrisy around here is choking!

Star and flag for you, Merlin, because I soooo want this story to be true, and also because I love your avatar.

Having worked around the legal profession for years, I'd say that there is certainly a way that a lawsuit like this could get somewhere- some precedent decisions perhaps on some minor but strategically important legal theory, and at the very least, they could wear the big banks down. The banks are already complaining loudly about how much all the lawsuits against them are costing (yeah, cry me a river). If this case actually makes it to discovery phase the banks' legal fee meters will be spinning like frisbees.

Good !

reply to post by seaside sky


A few billion dollars in legal fees is not even pocket change for the monsters that defrauded the american tax payer and the home owners. Sure many people should have never gotten a loan on a 300,000 dollar house but government legislation "right to home ownership" made it easy.

The derivatives fraud was a conspiracy. They were rated AAA and sold in the markets! AIG insured them and almost went under. Then the government came up with the bailouts and quantative easing BS that is not supposed to happen in capitalism. You don't bail out business(big or small), rather you let them fail...out of principle.

Originally posted by EarthCitizen07

Whenever someone brings the corruption to light it is always about attention seeking?

Why not just ADMIT you want the bilderbergers to get away with stealing trillions of TAX-PAYER dollars? It is probably not out of your pocket anyway, so why would you care?

I swear the hypocrisy around here is choking!

Feel better now?

How I feel about this and banks in general,I expressed in my first post in the thread and considering I`m not in even in your country,one would think that was pretty clear.

But carry on riding on your imaginary high horse,bringing down the bilderbergs with your ridiculous post about me on a worldwide online forum.

Yeah be careful you don`t choke on your hypocrisy.

Originally posted by gps777

How I feel about this and banks in general,I expressed in my first post in the thread and considering I`m not in even in your country,one would think that was pretty clear.

I apologise for not reading your first response, but your second response was quite an antithesis to the first.

But carry on riding on your imaginary high horse,bringing down the bilderbergs with your ridiculous post about me on a worldwide online forum.

Yeah be careful you don`t choke on your hypocrisy.

The hypocrisy is that you and Adjensen(a known disinfo agent) actually believe that the government has the interest of the people in mind when going after the lawyers who were jointly filing against the offshore companies that were laundering the money.

If you were the corrupt government would you not do the same thing? It is NOT rocket science.

Originally posted by EarthCitizen07
The hypocrisy is that you and Adjensen(a known disinfo agent) actually believe that the government has the interest of the people in mind when going after the lawyers who were jointly filing against the offshore companies that were laundering the money.

How am I a "known disinfo agent"?

If I'm guilty of anything, it would be being guilty of pointing out idiocy when it is so obvious that only a complete imbecile would miss it. As in this case, lol.

Is there any merit to this clown's case? Yes, but explicitly not as presented.

Is there, as a result, as opportunity to posit attention in another direction? Of course!

By making vapid and instantly invalid complaints against what would normally be a good target, said target receives some immunity.

The only "disinfo" in this thread is people like you, who ignore the real issues at hand.

Originally posted by EarthCitizen07
I apologise for not reading your first response, but your second response was quite an antithesis to the first.

Actually your wrong again,due to adjensens digging and researching the law firm (well done again),my warnings on "I would not hold my breathe if I were an American" in my post,was simply because I`ve been alive quite a while to know how corrupt the bamks and Gov are toward the people.

If you read the very headline of this article in the OP,it should bring up warnings to all those that might get their hopes up over this,as it says they are seeking to return 43 trillion to the United States Treasury.

The hypocrisy is that you and Adjensen(a known disinfo agent) actually believe that the government has the interest of the people in mind when going after the lawyers who were jointly filing against the offshore companies that were laundering the money.

Adjensen a known disinfo agent ? ,now your starting to jack me off,let me tell you that I read a lot around here and Adjensen is one of my favourite posters,unknown to him/her.

Disinfo agent my arse.

If you were the corrupt government would you not do the same thing? It is NOT rocket science.

This is the confusing thing about all this with you,I don`t think you know who is on your side already,because none of this and your unfounded accusasions toward us make any sense.

I know you would not make a great rocket scientist.

But I can let bygones be bygones and move on because believe it or not, we are very much on the same team on this.

reply to post by adjensen


Ok. Lets try one more time....

Several law firms that were involved in filing joint cases on behalf of the victims, were sued by the state of california on fake pretenses to block the initial suits from having a chance of succeding. Class action lawsuits are complicated and thus take a long time.

The government does not want the mortgage victims to get any exposure, because when push comes to shove the government agents resposible for the derivatives fraud and the bankers would get exposed.

Comprende?

Originally posted by gps777

Originally posted by EarthCitizen07
I apologise for not reading your first response, but your second response was quite an antithesis to the first.

Actually your wrong again,due to adjensens digging and researching the law firm (well done again),my warnings on "I would not hold my breathe if I were an American" in my post,was simply because I`ve been alive quite a while to know how corrupt the bamks and Gov are toward the people.

"The State Bar has shut down the practices of the attorney defendants. They are: Kramer & Kaslow, Philip Kramer, Mitchell J. Stein & Associates, Mitchell Stein, Christopher Van Son, Mesa Law Group Corp. and Paul Petersen."

If you noticed there is MORE THAN ONE law firm being charged with fraud. If this does not smack of conspiracy then nothing does. Yeah lets believe the government!

I know who is on my side and it ain't you.

Originally posted by EarthCitizen07

If you noticed there is MORE THAN ONE lawyer being charged with fraud. If this does not smack of conspiracy then nothing does. Yeah lets believe the government!

I wouldn`t trust either on face value,yet you seem to think lawyers are not greedy enough to commit fraud?

If these lawyers had of been squeaky clean from the get go and not involved in corruption and then change their name,I`d have a lot more trust in them.

If there was an association of disgruntled home owners etc that started this group action,then their choice of law firm and researching them leaves a lot to be desired,they should change.

Yet I`ve got a sneaky suspision all this wasn`t set up for the benifet of the people,more like set up by these lawyers,who have also been charged of ripping off home owners.

Conspirasy against the lawyers? could very well be both are corrupt as each other.Would you really be comfortable with both these lawyers and Gov with 43 trillion of your dollars?

Change Lawyers and run with it.

Comprende

Would it be possible to merge this thread with the one discussed when the lawsuit was filed?

I'm not sure how merges work, but as this one is an update of that one, it would be easier to follow & provide a more comprehensive view. The original thread also has a link to the lawsuit.

Here's the earlier thread: www.abovetopsecret.com...

Originally posted by gps777

Conspirasy against the lawyers? could very well be both are corrupt as each other.Would you really be comfortable with both these lawyers and Gov with 43 trillion of your dollars?

Change Lawyers and run with it.

Comprende

No. Its not the lawyers and their firms that have a problem, its the government that has a problem.

SEVEN LAW FIRMS before filling class action lawsuits had no problem with the law. then suddenly they got sued and perhaps disbarred because of alleged fraud. The government(state of california) was implying that the results were not quick enough for the plaintiff or something to that effect, which is absolute hogwash.

Please think harder before replying again. Anyway I am not one of those homeowners in default, nor do I have any affiliation with the aforementioned law firms. Its the evil hypocrisy that gets to me, or people not even reading the source they use.

I have read the articles, I don't profess to believe/disbelieve the actions or motives of the ones involved but wouldn't it be lovely if the lawyers were on the up and up. I do find it very suspicious that a well loved nanny would go berserk and stab two small children to death.... it does not feel right. The thing I did notice the most is how close this news story is to the election. There are a lot of mud slinging in the news story concerning Obama's hand picked governing officials. Just seems really fortuitous for the Republicans.

Originally posted by EarthCitizen07

No. Its not the lawyers and their firms that have a problem, its the government that has a problem.

SEVEN LAW FIRMS before filling class action lawsuits had no problem with the law. then suddenly they got sued and perhaps disbarred because of alleged fraud. The government(state of california) was implying that the results were not quick enough for the plaintiff or something to that effect, which is absolute hogwash.

From what I`ve read ,it sounds exactly like lawyers taking advantage of people already in a hard situation.

Though your free to love them....

The lawyers were loosely affiliated and hired more than 100 marketers to send mass mailings nationwide. The mailers, which looked like an official government notice, routinely indicated that they were a “legal settlement notification” and that the recipients “would become a named plaintiff.” They gave the impression that a settlement was imminent, the recipient should act quickly or lose out, and often outlined goals such as a $75,000 settlement, loan forgiveness, a 2 percent interest rate or a 90 percent chance of winning.
www.calbarjournal.com...

Please think harder before replying again.

That may cause a headache,you`ll have to excuse me as I remain as dumb as ever.

Anyway I am not one of those homeowners in default, nor do I have any affiliation with the aforementioned law firms. Its the evil hypocrisy that gets to me, or people not even reading the source they use.

I`m glad your not directly affected,but as they say, when America sneezes the rest of the world catch`s a cold.

I`d love for these people to be held accountable,be it the banks and any government official etc who has had a hand in any of these rip offs toward the general public,who deserve repayment/compensation.But heck the general public can`t even get the Gov to answer so many questions about 911 that don`t add up.

We`ll have to wait and see where all this goes,though I wouldn`t hold my breathe if I was in financial hardship due to these scum.

Originally posted by RogerT3
reply to post by longlostbrother

 

Marketwatch.com - (Wall Street Journal!) - does that qualify as news?

edit on 26-10-2012 by RogerT3 because: (no reason given)

edit on 26-10-2012 by RogerT3 because: (no reason given)

LOL. No.

It's still the same press release. PRNewswire, as the name implies, takes people's money and pushes their press releases, which they themselves wrote, to various media outlets.

This is simply an advertisement, not a news story.


So to reiterate: No.

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Originally posted by EarthCitizen07
reply to post by adjensen

 

Ok. Lets try one more time....

Several law firms that were involved in filing joint cases on behalf of the victims, were sued by the state of california on fake pretenses to block the initial suits from having a chance of succeding. Class action lawsuits are complicated and thus take a long time.

The government does not want the mortgage victims to get any exposure, because when push comes to shove the government agents resposible for the derivatives fraud and the bankers would get exposed.

Comprende?

Well, since the Spire Law Group was created by Mitchell Stein after Mitchell J. Stein & Associates was sued and run out of business by the state of California, how did the Attorney General of California know that Spire was going to file this suit in 2012, to be the cause of their suing Stein in 2011? Does the CA AG have a time machine?

The most plausible explanation is that Stein is a scammer -- he was in 2011, and there's no reason to believe that he's not in 2012.

I just noticed that CNBC has removed the original article. Did anyone get a screen shot?

reply to post by Merlin Lawndart


It's all over the place if you google it. Here's a Wall Street Journal posting of it.

Since it's just a press release, a lot of sites just republish it automatically and often remove them after a while.

Originally posted by Merlin Lawndart
I just noticed that CNBC has removed the original article. Did anyone get a screen shot?

Just contact the PR company paid to push it, they'll happily supply you with the text.