[[[[~Superhuman Reality - Predicting the Future~]]]]

reply to post by TheSparrowSings


I would assume that watching the pin as it pricks the finger has something to do with anticipatory reaction. I anticipate pain when I see it happen. However I've been blindsided by pain often enough and I've had no chance to anticipate them. I think being aware that pain is going to happen may induce at least some anticipatory feelings/reactions before the actual pain is inflicted.

ETA: Great post.

I think it all has to do with a combination of temporal and spatial awareness.

A conglomeration and symphony of many parts of the brain working in unison to create perceptions of actual/meaningful things to the observer's mind.

It's absolutely "Real" as it is absolute "Unreal".

whos to say how our creepy minds work!
Guessing that like many of you, you have experienced Deja-vu's... Just walking down the same street you walk down every morning... but this time a cat runs past, turns around and runs back up again... And BOOM you can recall that event crystal clear, you know youve seen it before...
Is it just chance? a repeat of a similiar experience?... i dont know.
I hope it isnt

The perception of reality by biosystems is based on different, and in certain respects more effective principles than those utilised by the more formal procedures of science. As a result, what appears as random pattern to the scientific method can be meaningful pattern to a living organism. The existence of this complementary perception of reality makes possible in principle effective use by organisms of the direct interconnections between spatially separated objects shown to exist in the work of J.S. Bell.

Biological Utilisation of Quantum NonLocality

My impression is that these experiences are inherent to consciousness in nature. Like walking and talking, some form of rudimentary training is required so that the capacity can mature.

On the other hand, it is certainly true that all current neurobiological descriptions of the brain are based on Newton's Physics, even if it is well known that Newton's Physics has its limitations. First of all, Newton's Physics is an offshoot of Descartes division of the universe in matter and spirit, and it deals only with matter. Secondly, neurobiologists assume that the brain and its parts behave like classical objects, and that quantum effects are negligible, even while the "objects" they are studying get smaller and smaller. What neurobiologists are doing when they study the microstructure of the brain from a Newtonian perspective is equivalent to organizing a trip to the Moon on the basis of Aristotle's Physics, neglecting Newton's theory of gravitation.

Quantum Consciousness

Any thoughts?

reply to post by Kashai


Thankyou so much for this addition. I am about to read through both articles.

I just wanted to say that it is stuff like this that make me think my husband might be right when he says, he believes, consciousness exists at the quantum level.

This quote from the second link summed my own thought up really well. I had a "Oh..." moment.

"The state of the universe is an objective compendium of subjective knowings". This statement describes the fact that the state of the universe is represented by a wave function which is a compendium of all the wave functions that each of us can cause to collapse with her or his observations.

I must admit that was a lot to go through. More than I was expecting. It has inspired me to research more and try to expand my knowledge more. I can comprehend what is being said but to try to relay it back with any form of insight is pretty impossible right now.

Excellent Edition to my thread and I hope everyone takes the time to read your links . (Especially the second one.)

reply to post by TheSparrowSings


Try taking any metallic object (one example would be a screw driver) and place it one centimeter, just above the bridge of nose in relation to the forehead. The sensation that you experience, is one that you need to replicate in meditation, without any tools. From there I feel that each of us are a part of an infinite puzzle, so your thoughts are relevant to get past the veil.

Any thoughts?

I disagree with the statement they offer at the end of the article, which basically says that supernatural means are not necessary to explain this phenomenon. While in a sense it would be "natural," there is another aspect that is not natural or normal, because science has ignored these types of happenings for a long time. It would be natural in the sense that everyone can do it, but with the current model of human biology this is not natural...That is what I was trying to say, lol.

I do not know anything about quantum biology, but I suppose it is similar to quantum mechanics, which gets pretty weird. Nonetheless, this is extremely cool, and I just hope we reach a point not only where all of these processes are understood, but also a point where we can make predictions regarding other human abilities of the mind.

Originally posted by JiggyPotamus
It would be natural in the sense that everyone can do it, but with the current model of human biology this is not natural...That is what I was trying to say, lol.

Thankyou for your thoughts.

I understand what you are trying to say. I think using terms like supernatural or natural are just semantics in studies such as these. Whether this is a complete natural process of all biological organisms it is still beyond the individuals understanding or conscious comprehension so it makes it rather "supernatural". With the study of the quantum realities of the universe it makes it necessary to look beyond current scientific structures (after all, neuroscience is still based on Newtonian principles.) and bridge a gap between what we consider to be normal or abnormal, in our understanding.

Originally posted by Kashai
reply to post by TheSparrowSings

 

Try taking any metallic object (one example would be a screw driver) and place it one centimeter, just above the bridge of nose in relation to the forehead. The sensation that you experience, is one that you need to replicate in meditation, without any tools. From there I feel that each of us are a part of an infinite puzzle, so your thoughts are relevant to get past the veil.

Any thoughts?

In relevance to your first statement about placing a metallic object... ect. I believe this might have something to do with an excited reaction between the human electromagnetic field and material (metal, magnets) which creates the sensation. Not saying that in order to have this feeling a foreign object is required at all times, but more so that the object is helping the field place itself in a certain state of resonance, which can be achieved at anytime but is stronger (or more noticeable to beginners) when aided by object.

After reading over the material and thinking on the subject I am sent back to one of my original opinions on the matter. Consciousness occurs on the quantum level. In the second link given to me by you (few post back) it was discussed that the brain functions as almost 2 separate parts working together. The quantum processes on a subconscious level and the material processes on the conscious level. The waves of the quantum probabilities, when flowing across the brain, interfere with the waves of the conscious. This interference causes a collapse of the wave function which manifests itself as physical reality.

As for reaching beyond the veil. Maybe there are some people who, while fully conscious and aware, can sort through some of this information and separate the physical reality collapse from the quantum processing occurring. But I also think that whatever brain waves being emitted during a conscious state make us too aware of physical reality and one can not simply access anything else. While sleeping, or in deep mediation, the conscious process are not occurring as frequently and giving the subconscious field a chance to thrive and be tapped into.

One final point, because I know a lot of this is not making MUCH sense (although it doesn't really have to, after all this is just opinion) If the quantum level of the brain is in charge of the waves of probability then I think it would do so in advance to its reaction/interaction with the conscious mind. (Before wave function collapse and reality creation) Giving that slight "window of opportunity" for physiological changes to occur (or even be felt consciously) before the effect manifests in reality.

Hello all, I'm happy to make my first reply here on this site.

I'm glad physical testing is finally starting to catch up with what some have intuitively understood and/or used. I have spent a great deal seeking quantum understanding for the past couple of years. Before that I operated Nuclear Reactors and spent a great deal studying particle physics and electrical theory. With that background my beliefs contain a heavy science bias. Quantum physics have led me to accept a lot into my belief structure that may be transcendent.

I believe we don't give the existing condition of the body enough credit. We have become so entrained with physical reality we no longer believe in feats the individual and collective consciousness of our very own cells still utilize to ensure the survival of itself and of the body. I believe in the vibrational theory of matter and energy. Think of all the wave names you hear. Electromagnetic waves, Gravity waves, Sound waves, Brainwaves, Microwaves, Gamma Waves, ect. Everything is a wave that we are now expanding our awareness of its true structure. A wave whose sperical characteristics we are now perceiving. The smallest inflection builds and collects other harmonious inflections to create everything our consciousness has been gifted to perceive. We know the senses are tuned to lower waves i.e hearing roughly 20-20k. The tuning of each individual and organ unique, some expansive some not.

Using this as my basis I'd like you to reflect on a ball being thrown at you. In any one moment the ball is only occupying one space in our visual perception. Your intuition however has mastered the art of reading that wave of possibility including all the associated effects. Whether your consciously able to do the calculations or not, you intuitively know that at this many seconds in the future the ball while smack you dead in the face. So in the succession of moments between the ball being a distance away and hitting you in the face your consciousness has the time to affect the current probability to bring about another possibility. In this case, like a great symphonic conductor you orchestrate the waves of your body to move out of the calculated trajectory. Some with great musical mastery (athletes) and some loosely and less accurately (The clumsy ones). This is our talent of interpreting past and future and reacting to it.

We are now finding the frequency of atoms to be in the millions of hertz. The individual parts of atoms would be an even higher frequency and so on. Even thoughts are a collection of waves at a frequency I won't even try to conceive at this moment. Brings a whole new meaning to thoughts create reality. Simply speaking, I believe the frequencies are being "condensed" into our perception. Being that we only consciously perceive the limited range of "physical" frequencies (with daydreamers, visionaries, mediators, shamans, etc perceiving more) they are the only ones you intuitively predict and react to. I believe the localized portions of consciousness in our cells perceive a broader portion of this spherical condensing action of these infinite waves into the "percieved moment". Since it can see further along the wavelength it has a greater amount of moments(time) to affect the possibility. No wonder our bodies can prepare for future events. Very rudimentary in explanation, but just food for thought.

I was travelling in the backseat of a car about 6 years ago, I didn't have my seatbelt on and was looking out of the window into a fields at the side, daydreaming and not paying any attention to anything, so at the time couldn't see what was infront of us, I then had a strong urge to put my belt on, so I did that, and a second after I had clipped the belt into the clip, we went head first into a motorway bollard travelling at over 70mph.

Strange.

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Thankyou for putting so much interesting information into your reply. Welcome to ATS. I am pleased you picked my thread to post in. I have given you your first star because I believe you summarized something in the following quote, that deserves to be highlighted again. I enjoy looking at every possible explanation. My thirst for knowledge is never quenched .

Using this as my basis I'd like you to reflect on a ball being thrown at you. In any one moment the ball is only occupying one space in our visual perception. Your intuition however has mastered the art of reading that wave of possibility including all the associated effects. Whether your consciously able to do the calculations or not, you intuitively know that at this many seconds in the future the ball while smack you dead in the face. So in the succession of moments between the ball being a distance away and hitting you in the face your consciousness has the time to affect the current probability to bring about another possibility. In this case, like a great symphonic conductor you orchestrate the waves of your body to move out of the calculated trajectory. Some with great musical mastery (athletes) and some loosely and less accurately (The clumsy ones). This is our talent of interpreting past and future and reacting to it.

reply to post by TheSparrowSings


Well thought out thread, thanks for the share.

Possibility of this prediction is possible, but likely in these next 10 years? no

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I know what you are talking about - intuitive driving.
I live in a rural area where we have elk and dear on the roads at night.
I used to have to drive about sixty miles from meetings at night.
I noticed that I always put my foot on the break just before seeing elk on the side of the road.
Fortunately, I never hit one.

For some reason, I have difficulty remembering my dreams. But I daydream a lot. And sometimes I see something concerning something in the future. Like one night I stayed home to prepare for exams, my parents bought me fish and chips for dinner. Ironically, I thought about the word 'bones'. Then I wondered why as I bit into the fish. Before this I have never found bones in fish and chips, but when I finished, I had found about seven.

Does anyone else have glimpses of the future in their daydreams?

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There was another thread posted a few months ago concerning another analysis extremely similar to this one: Predicting the Unpredictable: 75 Years of Experimental Evidence

It seems that analysis wasn't quite as comprehensive as this one, but their conclusion was the same... people do in fact have the ability to sense near-future events.

I've pretty much known this fact my entire life, because I've experienced the power of intuition myself many times... there comes a point where coincidence can no longer explain it.

Mossbridge’s analysis of the data puts the odds of her findings being the result of chance or coincidence at 400 billion to one.

I've said for a very long time that many so called supernatural phenomena are real, we simply haven't worked out the scientific mechanisms behind those phenomena.

The problem with mainstream science up until this point, is that it has for the most part ignored anything which "sounds like science fiction"... this is true for a lot of strange phenomena.

Anything which can't be explained with our current scientific understanding is typically classified as not being real. There's an old saying... the truth is often stranger than fiction.

There's so much we don't understand about reality... especially all the weirdness associated with quantum mechanics. Reality is much more interesting then we first assumed.

“The cause of this anticipatory activity, which undoubtedly lies within the realm of natural physical processes (as opposed to supernatural or paranormal ones), remains to be determined.”

You see, there is no such thing as paranormal forces... anything which exists can be understood and explained in scientific terms. For if it couldn't be explained it wouldn't exist.

There are things we already understand, and things we don't yet understand... nothing more. The things we don't understand yet are often neglected and relegated to the realms of the paranormal.

Even if god exists there is a scientific explanation for how and why such a god exists, how it came to be, how it functions, what it is constructed of, how its brain/mind works, so on and so forth.

I believe telepathy is also a legitimate process, numerous studies have shown evidence such a phenomena is real. It just seems so amazing that we instantly deny it.

In reality it's probably not that amazing... all our brains emit electromagnetic radiation in the form of brain waves, it's extremely possible our brains have an inductive mechanism capable of reading such waves.

Evolution will exploit every possible mechanism in order to build more robust organisms. The ability to sense danger moments before that danger arrives, is indispensable for survival.

The ability to pick up on the thoughts and/or emotional state of other people also has numerous evolutionary advantages. We can get along with others better and avoid angry people.

Sooner or later these phenomena will be completely understood, and we will look back to see how stupid we once were for ignoring these amazing processes for so long.

reply to post by ChaoticOrder

In reality it's probably not that amazing... all our brains emit electromagnetic radiation in the form of brain waves, it's extremely possible our brains have an inductive mechanism capable of reading such waves.

I always felt, growing up and even more so as an adult; that the esoteric concept of an aura is nothing more than a depiction of that which is electromagnetic energy flowing off of all living organisms (including planets and stars) When I used to meditate, I could feel waves of energy pulsing off and onto all parts of my body, much like ocean waves lapping at ones partially submerged body,

If you take a look at my avatar, I suggest you check out the photography style it came from. Kirlian photography. It kind of puts things into perspective for me...

I am always amazed how black and white our thinking is (as in opposite to each other - nothing racist about that). We are forever looking for the cause of something or someone to blame, when nothing happens for just one reason.

Take climate change for example - now do we all agree that weather systems are acting rather out of character and we are facing an unknown future, in that none of us currently on the Earth have lived through any major climate change before? Now this may be an entirely natural event or entirely caused by us, or maybe other currently unknown forces are at work. It is very convenient to think it's all natural as that means we don't have to change the way we live (and humans are very frightened of change). To actually try and work out how to change and get all humans to agree to this is something I feel I can safely predict as a no'hoper.

There is a very big incentive to believing we are not to blame for climate change, no effort required to fix it, cross our fingers and hope for the best. But if it is down to us, just imagine trying to mobilise the entire world to completely alter their way of life, to get all different countries to agree with each other, the rich to agree with the poor. It would probably end with us destroying ourselves with nuclear weapons in war.

But what if several factors are at work here - and what if our contribution was just a tiny part of the causes of global warming?

What if that tiny addition courtesy of the human race is enough to tip us over the age..............?

Here is a description (News item #9), made in 1959, of the Higgs field and its vortical excitations in the region of the colour gauge fields surrounding quarks:
smphillips.8m.com...
It was made by a well-known clairvoyant during investigations of his ESP abilities about five years before Scottish physicist Peter Higgs proposed the existence of the Higgs particle and several decades before vortical solutions were found by theoretical physicists in the QCD string model of quark confinement.

Here is a picture of the colour flux density in a bound state of three quarks, calculated for a scientific paper presented in 2003 at an international conference, that is compared with a diagram published in 1908 of a bound state of the three basic particles revealed by remote-viewing 95 years before this paper by two other famous Theosophists:
smphillips.8m.com...
(scroll down to the third picture). The similarity is too close to be explained away as coincidence, quite apart from the overwhelming body of other evidence presented at this website.

Originally posted by Bluesma
But the even stranger signals come in sometimes concerning events that there is just no way in heck anyone else could know beforehand! Like that two miles down the road, a bird will fly out of bush in front of you, causing your horse to bolt into a giant truck. You get signals, but there is just no way you can decode those correctly because the event has no basis to start from yet. But you learn through repeated experience that it is telling you SOMETHING...

In a bizarre twist of ATS reality, I'm going to agree with you on this, although I see no way for it to be happening.

(grin)

The Army for a while actually investigated this as a possibly-trainable ability, but it's too capricious, apparently.

/guys, something's WRONG.