Beanfield, Hillsborough, Orgreave. Anti-Constabulary Black Ops.

I know the Battle of the Beanfield was a set-up.

Go to 3:25 for the action.



Many have speculated that the police must have been psyched up beforehand. That speculation is correct and this is how it was done.

Two stories were spread among the police waiting at the roadblock. First they were told a huge heroin deal was planned to take place at Stonehenge and this must be stopped at all costs. The police who believed this thought at the end of the day they would have a large quantity of heroin to show to the press. Those who knew the travellers at this time tend to think heroin dealers would have been chased out. That was rumour number one.

The second untrue story passed to those police was far more serious. They were told the leading vehicle had run down and killed two policemen. This is a terrible example of a shoddy, 80's, black operation. Police were manipulated and prompted to beat and destroy without rational thought.

Each one is responsible for their own actions. Those on the field that day are small fry in the quest for justice. Those who gave the orders and arranged the rumours must face exposure. Watch how the mainstream media play this when they add the Beanfield to Hillsborough and Orgreave. These are anti-constabulary black ops designed to ease the intended introduction of a brutal paramilitary private police state. See through them.


Hillsborough.



A Home Office enquiry into the 1946 Burnden Park disaster in which 33 spectators died in a severe crush found "......the disaster at Bolton might easily be repeated at 20 or 30 other grounds’. ‘How simple’, the Report concluded, ‘and how easy it is for a dangerous situation to arise in a crowded enclosure. It happens again and again without fatal or even injurious consequences’. All that was needed was one or two additional influences and ‘danger’ could be translated into ‘death and injuries’"

Once the dangerous conditions had been easily achieved all that was needed were "one or two additional influences".

How does this seem for an additional influence? Go to 3:10 for the story the mainstream media don't seem to be touching.



I see three possibilities. One, he had a genuine breakdown. This should be acknowledged if true. Two, he was spiked with psychoactive drugs. Three, he was somehow pressured into faking a breakdown.

Hillsborough could easily have been deliberately planned and carried out by a small number of operatives. The treatment the mainstream media gives to the story will give very strong indications. There is an attempt to privatise policing happening now. That's why the media is attacking the police. These 80's black ops were designed to be used against the office of constable now. And that's how they're being used.


Orgreave.



Orgreave could have been very different. It was handled in a way that is now very useful to those who wish to benefit from our enslavement under a tyrannical private police state. The black ops giveaways are the way police escorted miners in instead of trying to keep them out on the fateful day. The BBC reversing the order of footage to show police apparently responding to the miners behaviour with horse charges rather than vice versa. The very frequently repeated assertions that some of the 'police' were actually military. Having witnessed military infiltration of the travellers around that time I have no difficulty in giving these assertions serious consideration. Above all it's the treatment given to these subjects by the media at exactly the time the attempt to privatise policing is in full swing that indicates these were deliberately planned, anti-constabulary black operations.

The best we can do with this is make individual police pay for their actions. This will have a sobering effect on serving police who will take great care not to be bribed, bullied or fooled into similar disgraceful behaviour. Drag the senior police and others responsible out into the light. This will be resisted strongly, the big secrets come out with these guys. Recognise that a huge manipulation programme is underway attempting to guide us down the path to a slave society. We were supposed to reject all our police because of these dreadful events, leaving a vacuum to be occupied by private police. Representatives from the American private police industry are here now attempting to manipulate the dramatic changes taking place in policing. Don't fall for these manipulative games. Let's get rid of the Nazi blackshirt costumes, the unmarked cars and all the other creepy changes to policing.

We can turn all this around and use it to bring back the traditional British Bobby.

Add to what you just said,the police commissioners elections having politicians like john presscot running-maybe another piece in the puzzle?

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Absolutely. The commissioners issue is troubling many people for many reasons.

I've heard it said that Prescott suddenly changed his behaviour and seemed deflated. It has been suggested that this may be due to a successful blackmail operation being carried out against him. It has been known for a target to be drugged and introduced to depraved behavior then photographed/filmed. They have no memory of the event. When they are later shown the photos/video they are given instruction on how to behave. Power given to one individual can be hijacked easily.

reply to post by Kester


another thing related which could be worrying is Alex Salmond uniting all the Scottish police forces into one.

reply to post by glen200376


Centralised control and an impersonal system. Not good.

Many years ago I was present at an illegal firearms raid in the West Highlands. Two policemen came in, sat down and shared a cup of tea with us then politely asked for the gun in question. A couple of weeks later they said due to a technicality there would be no charges. Fast forward to a centralised Scottish police force. It would be vastly more expensive and aggressive. I doubt there'd be much tea shared. Those were the days.

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I know people who were at The Battle Of The Beanfield and they have told me some horrific stories about the brutality and violence committed by the police, some of which have never been told 'in public'.

I've also heard the story about the alleged heroin stash.
Now I have no doubt that there were some heroin users within the travelling community but they were very much a minority - heroin was not the drug of choice for most of these people.
And it was ridiculous to think for one minute that there would be a significant amount of heroin in the convoy - there was a very small market in a community where cash was always in short supply.

Never heard anything about the police being deliberately wound up by allegations that one of the vehicle's had been responsible for the death of two policemen.

The police were instructed to smash the convoy up using whatever means possible.

Effectively they were used as a state controlled tool to destroy a way of life that the state feared as it had so little control over, despite the majority within the community being pacifists and non-aggressive.

The subsequent cover up and manipulation and supression of the facts by the authorities is proof in itself of the pre-meditated brutality shown by the police.

I think Hillsborough has been covered at length in other threads here on ATS.

Whilst I don't know anyone who was at Orgreave I do however know many ex-miners who were on the picket lines during the strike and who witnessed many acts of police brutality.
It is also generally accepted that the police used agent provocateurs to deliberately stir up trouble and confrontation between the miners and the police.
All done with either government approval or possibly even government instruction.

I have absolutely no doubt whatsoever that the current government, and the previous one, would be prepared to use the police force in such a manner again.
The Leveson Inquiry touched on the incestuous relationship between politicians / Civil Servants / Senior police officers / MSM and industrialists.
There is no reason to believe that this relationship has altered in any way at all and I suspect that the police could well be used to reinforce or even tighten their control over the British people.

During the riots in 2011 there were numerous reports of the police initially sitting back and allowing the rioters free reign.
This, along with MSM reporting helped influence the public's perception.
I suspect any future civil disobedience will be brutally put down immediately using the riots as the reasoning for such swift and harsh tactics etc.
And as the gap between the wealthy and the not so wealthy grows I wouldn't be surprised if the police are used to supress the people whilst private police forces are used to protect and guard the elite and their possessions.

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To give readers an idea of the degree of brutality shown by police at the Beanfield. One of the travellers was ex-SAS. He did exactly what his SAS training told him to do in such circumstances. He hid under brambles in a ditch till two O'clock in the morning then crept away.

Of course we know the heroin story was ridiculous but the police mostly didn't.

The story I've heard from the travellers side is somewhere en-route two policemen, or at least men dressed as policemen, stepped out in front of the lead vehicle. No names mentioned, you'll probably understand the 'Bulgarian' connection. This chap continued driving slowly forwards and the two men in police uniforms walked backwards with their hands on the vehicle then stepped aside. The story I've heard from the police side is they were told two of their colleagues had just been run down and killed. Does anyone know the identity of these two alleged policemen in this alleged incident? Could they have been part of the black op? The driver of the vehicle was under a lot of stress in the weeks after the event. I was living opposite Vaggy's land during those weeks. I still remember the look of stress on his face. I hope he's doing well now.

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Around that time I went to visit some friends on Hay Bluff. As I walked past Clyro Tip I saw council lorries carrying snapped poles and covers. I didn't recognise what I was seeing. When I got to the Bluff it was a scene of devastation. Council workers with a police bodyguard had used two JCB's to drag the benders into a pile and load the remains onto trucks. They even drove one of the JCB's into the spring and deliberately turned it into a morass. The throttle cable snapped while they were doing this. The spirits are strong on Hay Bluff. When I walked back past Clyro I went into the tip and found they were burying the remains of all those homes under several feet of mud. I look at that field every time I pass it. I know what's under there. That's how we were treated.

Around that time I woke up surrounded by black shiny boots and was immediately assaulted by the senior policeman.

Around that time someone crept up to my remote camp on a very dark, stormy night and fired a shotgun a few feet away from me. It was so dark and the rain was so heavy a torch would be very little use. He must have navigated by the fences to reach me. It was a tense few minutes knowing he was somewhere close with a gun.

We were all affected by the experiences we had then. Many of those experiences resulted from the desire to crush our lifestyle at all costs. As if it wasn't difficult enough fetching water and firewood. Building and maintaining our own homes. Digging latrines, tending gardens and livestock. Then one day you find a massive stack of paperwork in the doorway of your humble abode with the exact location marked on a map and an invitation to appeal against eviction from your own land.

One thing I noticed about the 2011 riots. They stopped when record sales of baseball bats and crowbars were reported. And they didn't start up again this year. Could there be some connection?

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When it comes to agent provocateurs I see the fallout every day. A close relative was used by New South Wales Special Branch as a provocateur. He was given the choice between prison or working for them. Prison would have been better. First he was supposedly an informant but they soon told him what they wanted him to report. Then it was arson along with conveniently damning graffiti implicating the harmless groups that were being presented as dangerous by these crooked cops. Then ASIO got in on the act and it was bombs and major false flag terror.

We don't see any reason to keep quiet about this. What are they going to do? Kill us? And give credibility to the massive amount of information we've spread all over the internet? It's time to get these scum on the run.

And I truly feel, Freeborn, an alliance between police, activists and military is not only possible but is actually happening now and increasing every day.

Originally posted by Freeborn

Never heard anything about the police being deliberately wound up by allegations that one of the vehicle's had been responsible for the death of two policemen.

This is the problem. So few people know this yet it's an essential piece of knowledge for our understanding of what went on. Same with the man under the table at Hillsborough. We should all know the man in charge at Hillsborough was allegedly under a table having a mental breakdown. Without those two pieces of knowledge the Beanfield is just a hate filled event and Hillsborough is a general police failure. With this knowledge the Beanfield is the police being set-up to behave like monsters and Hillsborough is at least a lesson in the fragility of police leadership. I'm more inclined to think it was a deliberate black op. If these elements are left out of the story and the horribly untrustworthy mainstream media encourage us to simply generally blame police that isn't being done for our benefit.

Shortly after the Beanfield I talked to well known travellers about the police being told the leading vehicle had killed two policemen but I was shouted down, as was common in that society. I rarely mentioned it again until the internet gave me the opportunity.

I hope I made it clear that I suspect the Beanfield is about to be bumped into 'the news' alongside Orgreave and Hillsborough. Anti-constabulary black ops. You heard it first on ATS.

an old pal of mine (a peaceable chap) was at the battle of the beanfield and got a right pasting, as did a female friend of his who was dragged through a freshly smashed window in their van by some jolly copper, involvong much blood.... they heard the excuse that a couple of cops had been run over.
on the other side of things, i also knew members of the 70's and 80's travelling and tipi community who used to trade in "horses" as such, and carried firearms to protect said livestock.

reply to post by skalla


Thank you oh thank you. You're the first in all these years to say that. I can't reveal my source but he asked several of his police friends "Why the hell did you go so crazy?" They all told him about these two stories.

As for horse dealers. Hmmmmmm.

reply to post by Kester


no probs, i was told this in convo with the guy about 20 yrs ago, pretty sure he mentioned that the police were under the impression a lot of skag would be there too.

as for the horse dealers, sorry but yeah.... and they were very much part of the crowd at the relevant time - would have fitted in perfectly with all the nicer folk too and you'd never have picked them out

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So did you ever hear the story about the big bag of ammo? Nasty geezer turned up with big bag of mixed ammo. Said, "I can supply the guns to go with this. You'll never achieve anything till you stand up for yourselves". One traveller said "I know people who'll take you up on that but they're too careful to talk to a stranger. Give me a selection of the ammo and I'll show it to them and see if they'll agree to meet you". Nasty geezer handed over a selection of ammo and traveller drove straight to Fleet Street, walked into the offices of a major newspaper, plonked the ammo on the desk and said, "Look! The bastards are trying to set us up with weapons!" Traveller then drove straight to Fishguard, ferry to Ireland and never returned. Investigative reporter came tearing up to Wales to find him, found me putting up fence for a tree patch and was very, very disappointed to hear the man he wanted to interview had fled to Ireland.

That's the kind of stuff that went on in the 80's.

Black Operations.

reply to post by skalla


Every time I look at the photographs of the old vehicles I think yeah, that's such a lovely trailer, but I know they were smackheads. As you say, fitting in well with the rest.

reply to post by Kester


no, i never heard that.

just for ref, the two different parties i mentioned in my posts are unrelated and dont even know each other.

some other folks i know extremely well used to live in a very mundane commune in rural wales in the late 70's and often got journos sniffing around for free love and drugs stories and said journos were most disappointed to find that it got no more exciting than carrots, chickens and bad guitar playing

edit: yeah, sadly smack/methodone have often been common on some traveller sites of yesteryear, though i'm more more organic farms than festi's in my dotage

reply to post by skalla


Reality of those kind of communities and common perception of life in those communities is often worlds apart.

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At one time police were desperately trying to locate the legendary 'Armoured Division of The Convoy'. It turned out someone had seen an armoured vehicle in a scrapyard and was thinking about buying it for a living van. They really wanted us to be dangerous. Sorry, we just want to live peacefully without destroying our environment.