Nice Job Creating More Terrorists [According To The Intelligence Community]

Here's the problem. Western capitalist countries assume money > all, everywhere and in all situations. They go around the world exerting their influence "legally" using their financial and military advantages to do all kinds of things for their own benefit including and not limited to regime changes (just take a little look at that phrase and imagine it inflicted onto your country by outsiders who's only claim to righteousness is MONEY and the influence it buys them). Well news flash!!! Not everyone in the world believes their countries should be dominated by 3rd parties because they are richer. This is where terrorists are borne from. You might not have blown them up or fired the first bullet but you secreted yourselves into their affairs for your own personal interests.

It's not right that anyone gets killed but the west really don't have anyone but themselves to blame. They should have known better than go throwing their weight around in poorer countries especially when they do it primarily out of self interest.

You try to bully a poor man, he may not be able to afford a lawyer but don't cry when he just kicks you in the balls instead.

Originally posted by tothetenthpower
reply to post by Annee

 

I think it's more along the lines of Non Interventionism Annee, not isolationism.

~Tenth

Not to me.

Originally posted by LiberLegit

Originally posted by cornucopia

Originally posted by LiberLegit
What a collection of deluded dream-world pacifists. I'm glad people in control don't think like all of you, or else we'd have a few more 9/11s on our hands instead of just one.

lol, not true.


if you knew what i knew then you would know

Enlighten me, what is it that you know? But for the sake of coherent argument (which is hard to come by on here these days) provide me with some facts. No generalized statements like "you're a sheeple" or "you're asleep." I get it I get it, just give me an argument without the vague under-handed condescending self-righteous colorful bull#tery that the NWO "enlightened ones" seem to spout. 24/7.

ok...

99% of Humans on this planet now desire peace...

through propaganda, tea party propaganda using the flag and nationalism, mainstream media has programmed many Humans...

at a higher level we are ALL brothers and sisters...all Humans on planet Earth...our quest is to become Galactic Humans and to re-connect with our Cosmic Families..

most of us are here to help planet earth and our brothers and sisters...

remember?

remember why you came to this world?

if not, ask before you sleep tonight..

go find a real psychic, they exist

i am dreamer, but i'm not the only one

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There is a lot of truth in this thread thats been proven many,many times throughout history.

The very nature of these conflicts [west vs terrorism],[palastine vs Israel],[UK vs Ireland] for example polarise and the longer the conflict continues the deeper ingrained,the deeper entrenched each side becomes making it so much harder,in fact almost impossible to see the other sides point of view as the original causes for the conflict get lost,distorted over time and the very conflict itself the real truth ~ in those terms how can you ever hope to resolve the situation !!!

The conflict in Ireland is a case in point.What was the root of it ~ Battle of the Boyne 1690,Derry,Droghda and Cromwell 1649,numerous catholic Irish rebellions,English Protestant colonisation from the 15th century on ???

Well take your pick either way the reasons are buried in history and very deep rooted.

I remember growing up seeing the IRA bombings,hunger strikes,hearing about knee cappings,Britsh soldiers being attacked etc,etc and feeling why doesnt the Army go in and wipe the IRA out once and for all.

Obviously and thankfully I grew up and my uneducated opinions bore no reality to what the people who were directly effected by or lived through in Northern Ireland.

What was required was each side to accept their opposite numbers believed something you didnt but putting that aside for just now in the cause of finding peace which was what the peolpe of Northern Ireland truly wanted most.

Incidently it has somehow become seen as one of Tony Blairs greatest achievements.The process and the vast majority of the groundwork was completed under the previous Tory government but Tony Blairs government happened to in power during the completion.Peace isnt one of TB's successes in any theatre !!!!

Accepting that one man's terrorist is another man's freedom fighter is the first step to finding a road to peace.

Also realising that military action and occupation only breeds resentment and therefore violent opposition.

Look at post 9/11.Hardly a country in the world criticised the attack on the Al-Queda training camps and their Taliban supporters.The US had a lot of goodwill behind it but all that was squandered by 2003 and the invasion of Iraq.

I remember hearing the government citing WMD's and that Hussien had the capability to strike the UK within 12 minutes,according to an MI6 report.

My initial reaction was what a load of utter sh#@e nobody with half a brain will believe it for a second.In fact there was a lot of public and political opposition but Tony Blair wouldnt entertain any different views or opinions on the subject,his mind was set on this unnecessary war with Bush without any understanding how it would destroy any credibility we had in the ME.

Even worse there was no plan or concept of what would happen or what to do once Saddam was defeated.The total ineptitude in foriegn policy shown by the Bush and Blair governments beggars belief.Succeeding governments have continued their policies almost blindly.

The war in Afgahnistan ??

What the hell is it about,for.In the UK we're told we're fighting there to keep the streets of the UK safe.

Safe from what ??

If they're deströying the opium crop and trying to reduce smack consumption over here its failing badly.

If its to stem the flow of Afgahn terrorists active in the UK I dont think it was ever a serious issue,in fact its a heap of s#@*e !!!

Did we have young UK muslims going to terrorists training camps pre 9/11 ???

And when we pull out fully by 2014 the Taliban will be free to rule exactly how they wish so what did we gain for all those dead British squaddies then ???



I have to agree tenth that our current policies breed more terrorism.Military responses are self defeating ??

what a tragic mistake getting involved at all in this region

after the oil embargo, brazil was smart. they passed a law that any gas station had to offer diesel, gas and ethanol at every station. they let the market forces fight it out. GM has a flex fuel plant there. brazil is independent of oil imports, and the need to wage war for oil

what did the US do ? send troops

oy

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So, you'd rather keep funding wars in countries we have no business being in? You're all up for sending millions of dollars to people who want to see us dead? You're what's wrong with America.

It is exactly the American foreign policy that has ignited the fire in the bellies of people all over the world. When you push someone into a corner, they will push back. To those misinformed people who say 'booo the teorrorists started it', nonsense. Just look at American and western foreign policy of the last hundred years and you will see that they have been meddling in the affairs, lives and wars of eastern countries. THIS is what has created that hatred towards them, and this will be the cause of their downfall. The more they try to fight it the more people will rally against them.

The truth is that America is controlled by evil satanists that have an evil agenda of control, power and ritual sacrifice, that can only be forwarded by wars, control of the banking system and puppet regimes in the middle east. Now who is in the right? This group of people or the group of people fighting against those who bomb them, drone attack them, torture them, starve them and humiliate them? People need to wake up and smell the coffee!

Originally posted by Auricom
reply to post by Annee

 

So, you'd rather keep funding wars in countries we have no business being in? You're all up for sending millions of dollars to people who want to see us dead? You're what's wrong with America.

Please re-post where I said that. Or anything close to that.

I'm what's right with Humanity.

I do not buy this one bit. There is no way AQ is more powerful now than it was before the attacks. Do they not realize that the vast majority of the AQ leadership has been killed or captured? And that much of their funding has been obliterated? While I did not agree with this whole war crap, the one thing this war did do was basically wipe out AQ. If their ranks are indeed growing now, it is because so many citizens over there view the US as invaders.

I still do not buy that AQ pulled off the 911 disaster, and if they did, they must have had help. What happened after the fact as well, including a half-hearted 911 commission investigation, and strange events, also lead us to believe that there was something that the government did not want the people to discover. My personal belief, based on the whole picture, is that Israeli intelligence, MOSSAD, was the organization that made this happen, as to draw the US into Israel's war on Muslims. That goal has been accomplished. Remember the dancing Israelis in NYC on that day, who were highly suspected of being members of Israeli intelligence. This likely was confirmed, and thus they were released.

So back to the point, I do agree that the actions of the US is creating more terrorists, the organization known as AQ is not as strong as it was previously. They could not even communicate with one another, and those who did got a drone strike called in on them, or got themselves arrested. Cell communications are how many of them got caught, and I just do not see them rebuilding so quickly. Too many important people had been lost to the organization. But then again, Bin Laden's number 2 is still out there, and he scares me more than Bin Laden ever did. And while Bin Laden's goal was to strike in America, his goal is to focus attacks in their homeland.

This is a noted fact, and the intelligence agencies know this as well. Therefore I say those outside of the ME are in less danger now than they were before.

just end the freakin wars, please...



go there and see the destruction of life...


for what? oil...




all wars are for the domination of people, land and resources..



wake the # up humans, please


i can post a thousand pictures of children killed over in Iraq/Afghanistan...

Originally posted by Annee

Originally posted by tothetenthpower
reply to post by Annee

 

I think it's more along the lines of Non Interventionism Annee, not isolationism.

~Tenth

Not to me.

Please articulate the differences in your opinion, between "non intereventionist" and 'isolationist" foreign policies.
It would help me and likely others to understand you're argument.

Thank you.

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