HOLY COW! Findings in Quantum Biology Proves Existence of IMMATERIAL SOUL!

Originally posted by auto73912621
reply to post by NotAnAspie

 

They have actually been doing research into this field since the 50's, but it really hit its stride with the 70's. However, the kind of remote mind control you are mentioning would require a huge network of electrical transmissions covering nearly every major city in the country. I would assume that this would cause enough interference to be noticed by the counter-movements including the HAM operators.

The mind control techniques generally used on us at this point are behavioral and psycho-social, not electrical. (currently)

Though with the increasing use and understanding of these kinds of concepts, perhaps we'll be lucky enough to see wireless thought control (without psychedelics and meditation) oh boy!

To be a murderer, you don't have to murder everyone on the planet.

Do not undermine the victims of directy energy weapons... not one.

Are you saying t is ok for this to happen to anyone? Is that what you are saying because that is what is happening and the best way to convince people hat this is not a real issue is to claim it is not feasible.

Get off of it, I'm not going to go in circles with anyone about this.

This is my point that people need to realize... THE SIMPLICITY, NOT THE IMPOSSIBILITY... of how easy this would be to accomplish. A weapon can be directed at you from a distance that can #ing make you square dance as well as many many other things including the centers of your brain involving emotions. It can done with equipment that can be put in a vehicle that is driving by your house right now.

Do not deviate from my point, people need to get this into their heads.

It's possible and real. There are plenty of people sick enough to play with this stuff and they don't have to be taking over the world.

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And to top it off... Try self-assembling nano-tubes that trace our central nervous system.

Originally posted by NotAnAspie

Originally posted by auto73912621
reply to post by NotAnAspie

 

They have actually been doing research into this field since the 50's, but it really hit its stride with the 70's. However, the kind of remote mind control you are mentioning would require a huge network of electrical transmissions covering nearly every major city in the country. I would assume that this would cause enough interference to be noticed by the counter-movements including the HAM operators.

The mind control techniques generally used on us at this point are behavioral and psycho-social, not electrical. (currently)

Though with the increasing use and understanding of these kinds of concepts, perhaps we'll be lucky enough to see wireless thought control (without psychedelics and meditation) oh boy!

To be a murderer, you don't have to murder everyone on the planet.

Do not undermine the victims of directy energy weapons... not one.

Are you saying t is ok for this to happen to anyone? Is that what you are saying because that is what is happening and the best way to convince people hat this is not a real issue is to claim it is not feasible.

Get off of it, I'm not going to go in circles with anyone about this.

This is my point that people need to realize... THE SIMPLICITY, NOT THE IMPOSSIBILITY... of how easy this would be to accomplish. A weapon can be directed at you from a distance that can #ing make you square dance as well as many many other things including the centers of your brain involving emotions. It can done with equipment that can be put in a vehicle that is driving by your house right now.

Do not deviate from my point, people need to get this into their heads.

It's possible and real. There are plenty of people sick enough to play with this stuff and they don't have to be taking over the world.

edit on 17-10-2012 by NotAnAspie because: (no reason given)

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Originally posted by Americanist

Originally posted by NotAnAspie

Originally posted by auto73912621
reply to post by NotAnAspie

 

They have actually been doing research into this field since the 50's, but it really hit its stride with the 70's. However, the kind of remote mind control you are mentioning would require a huge network of electrical transmissions covering nearly every major city in the country. I would assume that this would cause enough interference to be noticed by the counter-movements including the HAM operators.

The mind control techniques generally used on us at this point are behavioral and psycho-social, not electrical. (currently)

Though with the increasing use and understanding of these kinds of concepts, perhaps we'll be lucky enough to see wireless thought control (without psychedelics and meditation) oh boy!

To be a murderer, you don't have to murder everyone on the planet.

Do not undermine the victims of directy energy weapons... not one.

Are you saying t is ok for this to happen to anyone? Is that what you are saying because that is what is happening and the best way to convince people hat this is not a real issue is to claim it is not feasible.

Get off of it, I'm not going to go in circles with anyone about this.

This is my point that people need to realize... THE SIMPLICITY, NOT THE IMPOSSIBILITY... of how easy this would be to accomplish. A weapon can be directed at you from a distance that can #ing make you square dance as well as many many other things including the centers of your brain involving emotions. It can done with equipment that can be put in a vehicle that is driving by your house right now.

Do not deviate from my point, people need to get this into their heads.

It's possible and real. There are plenty of people sick enough to play with this stuff and they don't have to be taking over the world.

edit on 17-10-2012 by NotAnAspie because: (no reason given)

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oh yeah, that's right... so much for not having a network. Looks ike victims will not feel so alone anymore.

I was talking to someone recently about a 150 foot tower that was torn down and instead of building a new one in the same vicinity to replace it, they built it a short distance on land that the base is closer to and it was a big to-do in the local paper because they had to et permission to build it there because t was a potential security issue for the base... they usually don't build them that close. There's nothing but woods over there. There's plenty of land. This is the same area we saw that sighting in 94. This is the same area that shortly after the base conducted an operation with strange looking flares that snaked around in the sky and had people calling in because they kept seeing these weird lights.

Now this tower is there and I wonder why they bother because they had to get this passed, the paper was talking all about it. And then I realized that this would give them partial or joint access perhaps for security.

The other one was shorter but t wasn't that old... so they build a taller one on land near base exercises and a certain place where they have reserved lands but they are not considered part of the base. They even have a public nature viewing area on that side of those woods because, it's government owned but not specifically part of the base... and so they had to get it passed to build hat tower there.

I find it kinda strange.

Originally posted by Ajax84

Originally posted by boncho

Originally posted by Ajax84

Originally posted by boncho
What exactly is a quantum biologist?

Here is a an article from Nature on quantum biology.

The OP is just a YouTube video, id rather see a paper on it...

edit on 17-10-2012 by boncho because: (no reason given)

en.wikipedia.org...
www.nature.com...

You realize you just linked the article I linked myself in my own post right? So far it's just an idea (quantum biology)... The OP suggests there is proof of souls, but there is none. When a paper gets published suggesting we have proof of our souls, I'm all ears (or eyes) to go over the information.

Until then, some random YouTube splicing with a voice over is not going to cut it.

Just draw the conclusion yourself. We know the world is an illusion, we know that the best correlate of consciousness is quantum (Gamma synchrony) and we know that quantum effects are being found at the threshold of consciousness. (Well maybe this one isn't proven 100% yet, but Zeilinger sounded pretty convinced)

Just put two and two together from those. Even if its not spelled out, it's pretty obvious.

"but Zeilinger sounded pretty convinced "

Oh...Well I wasn't aware that people sounding convinced makes something proven 100%.

Apparently every Religion on the planet is right then?

I think it's obvious that Quantum Mechanics plays a role in Consciousness. I think it's resisted by some because some people have based their whole life on materialism. So, Consciousness has to be an emergent property of the material brain even though that scenario makes no sense.

I think the Wave Function is what some call the Collective Unconscious of the universe. It's a real entity and this would make us walking double slit experiments so to speak.

The whole Universe can be traced back to a probable state of the wave function.

Say, I decide to walk across the street and buy a bag of Ruffles from the corner store. I can trace everything back to pure potential.

Going to the store exists as a probable state until I walk across the street.
The bag of Ruffles existed as a probable state until the chips were put into a package.
Before these chips can be put into a bag they existed as a probable state until potato chips were invented.

This can go all the way back to the universe itself. It was just a probable state until it was measured.

This is Consciousness. We observe measured states. Our choice causes a measurement to occur.

Originally posted by starsyren
reply to post by Char-Lee

 

He's referring to Wave Function Collapse, a concept in Quantum Physics in which all possibilities exist all together, smeared out over time. It's human conciousness that "collapses" all of those possibilities into one singular thing, event, or reality.

...basically, the brain does not create conciousness. Conciousness creates the brain.

edit on 17-10-2012 by starsyren because: Clarification

that's not really true though. The "Observer" effect for wave functions, primarily the double slit experiment can still occur with inanimate objects. performing the experiment with a video camera instead of a person watching it, gets the same results. The Observer does not need to be human, or even animate.

reply to post by Ajax84

In other words, an immaterial non-local mind, measures and collapses a material brain

We are not co creators of physical reality. We create it. All of it.. The universe is a mirror and matter an epiphenomena consciousness. sf

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what is the significance of the double slit experiment?

is it not that our equipment used to measure the data at the quantum level via detectors has an effect on the experiment?

Originally posted by purplemer
reply to post by Ajax84

 

In other words, an immaterial non-local mind, measures and collapses a material brain

We are not co creators of physical reality. We create it. All of it.. The universe is a mirror and matter an epiphenomena consciousness. sf

this sounds wrong,,, can you explain?

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In other words, an immaterial non-local mind, measures and collapses a material brain!

I've never known someone to say something in so few words and make so little sense.

reply to post by ImaFungi


We are not victims of reality. We are creators of it. Reality is relative to each and everyone of us. The best you can see in the world is created by you and the worst you see in the world is created by you. They are manifestations of our own personal psyche and the ying and yang of the mind. The universe is a mirror and reflects your mind upon it...

A person who has experience in OBE's or astral travel will learn more is seconds than the most advanced scientist could learn in lifetimes. The only problem is that it's impossible to get anyone to understand it, let alone believe it.

Originally posted by purplemer
reply to post by ImaFungi

 

We are not victims of reality. We are creators of it. Reality is relative to each and everyone of us. The best you can see in the world is created by you and the worst you see in the world is created by you. They are manifestations of our own personal psyche and the ying and yang of the mind. The universe is a mirror and reflects your mind upon it...

ok so you are saying there is no meaning or value to the physical universe.... the only place meaning and value exist are in a humans mind.....

Originally posted by Visitor2012
A person who has experience in OBE's or astral travel will learn more is seconds than the most advanced scientist could learn in lifetimes. The only problem is that it's impossible to get anyone to understand it, let alone believe it.

try...
to explain it

Originally posted by inverslyproportional
reply to post by Ajax84

 

So OP do you possess enough knowledge in this particular area to further explain this theory to me, or did you just find it fascinating and so posted it?

I hope it is the former, not the latter, as I would like a better understanding of the subject matter.

I am going to go ahead and state what I think this means in the hopes that you or another member will be able to clarify some points for me.

1. so in effect what is being said is that, a human basically has a brain because their "soul" is collapsing the quantum spin rotation of potentials, into what we see manifested as physical form, because physical form is required to interact with actual space time as we perceive it to be?

2. We are actually interacting with space time at a fundamental level, and thus, our "feeling" an object occurs instantaneously, at the nerve, but must travel from the brain to the nerve to be felt, as the brain is the catalyst that results from our "feeling" and the necessity of having to have a brain to manifest the soul in a way that can interact with space time as we perceive it?

I know that is alot to rap your head around, but I am just curious if I am understanding this correctly or not.

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ARE YOU SERIOUS? It's the freakin internet! Go read a book if you want someone with a PH.D to explain it to you. Peeps like you are the reason why phage thinks he is a God on here.

Originally posted by ImaFungi

Originally posted by Visitor2012
A person who has experience in OBE's or astral travel will learn more is seconds than the most advanced scientist could learn in lifetimes. The only problem is that it's impossible to get anyone to understand it, let alone believe it.

try...
to explain it

Ok, I am going to talk to you very frank. It has been my experience that I am literally the Ether of my existence and surroundings. I am able to leave my body all together, at will, and bi-locate my perception of this "earthly plain" to any point on the globe. Now, this experience (for lack of a better word) was more real than a dream, and it was more real than waking life itself. Quite literally, opening my real eyes into a realm, dimension or reality that is all around us, all the time. It is an everlasting profound realization that I am not just my body, I'm a non-entity, which is everywhere, everything simultaneously. I've have become aware that I am either in a sleep state or I'm having an adventure in a dream, the dream is my life. Moreover, it seems that I have been doing this for a VERY long time (hundreds if not thousands of years) However, when I "occupy" this being, it feels much like waking up from a long sleep. Except that reality is more real than this one.

I'm tiring myself, and boring myself to death talking about it for too long. Mostly because i've never been understood by anybody. If I were to regather my enthusiasm and wrote a book about reality, it would end up on the Sci-fi/fantasy shelf. Maybe In time, I will be able to linguistically, bridge the gap between the mystical and earthly realities. No one has ever succeeded, and neither have I. it's just pure fantasy, inflated Ego nonsense to most intelligent people.

Forgive me for avoiding your question. Unless you have a more specific question you would like me to clarify. This subject, as is, encompasses the entire existence. I wouldn't know where to begin.

"Rather because there is no machine"...Nice.

And to think I just read a thread, in the realm of something or other, about the science of pissing, what it means. and how it can help you. Go figure.

reply to post by Visitor2012
I've had similar experiences. The first time was when I blew the Kundalini gasket and since then it has happened several times - more frequently recently. For me, the experiences don't last long - in this concept of time - but sometimes the experiences seemed to encompass a different time scale, and enormouse spans of 'time' pass. It's certainly hard to describe and isn't spoken of to those 'locked in' to this reality. But to those few I have mentioned it to - through my untuition that they would get it - it seems that this kind of thing isn't as unusual or rare as I first thought.

Originally posted by rhinoceros
More like "This guy suggest that quantum mechanics play a part in consciousness".

I would even go as far as quantum mechanics and general relativity to string theory is conscious and everything is alive .