attack myth

Good!

Then we agree.

Originally posted by ScientificUAPer
Good!

Then we agree.

We never disagreed. But one of us took the ball down the wrong side of the court................>

Originally posted by SLAYER69

Originally posted by DarkKnight76
My feeling as an armchair-UFOlogist, is that if there were "evil" aliens out there ready to conquer us, they would have already. They haven't yet, so I have to assume they aren't out there.

OR...

The supposed good Aliens told the bad Aliens to back off.

Humanity isn't ready to be harvested

YET

but a pinch of this and a dash of that and we'll be perfect for alien cioppino in about a hundred more years or so. I'm sure they're getting sick of cow cheeks.

Originally posted by SLAYER69

Originally posted by ScientificUAPer
Good!

Then we agree.

We never disagreed. But one of us took the ball down the wrong side of the court................>

That's because I've often heard the 'but' or 'however' in this context, and since that is where your first post left off, that's what came across to me.

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Ok in that logic what if it is a cycle and machines created us? There are those that subscribe to ancient alien theory which for all we know are a biological mechanical hybrid, in which case we would be like machines. The fact is we don't know we can only speculate and chose to have faith in a belief or not to and continue to question. Hypotheticals can go on for ever supporting both sides.

Originally posted by g0dhims3lf
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Ok in that logic what if it is a cycle and machines created us?

That's not my logic, but maybe that kind of logic is influencing your choice of words?

If that logic is correct, yes, then we are biological machines. But I never, ever saw any evidence of that. And imo. it seems as if many people vastly underestimate the complexity of life. Eventually, you don't 'build' life, you breed it, or control/manipulate mutations from generation to generation, you don't build life, like you build a machine. Of course, I'm basing that on our knowledge, but I can much better imagine e.g. a cell being a result of perpetual but very long-running evolutionary processes. There are too many things that have to work together at micro-level, I don't think the tooling is possible

Also, in a hypothetical scenario, if we say that we are 'built' by others, it only pushes the ultimate question one link further: What created the beings that created the human 'machines'? So you gain nothing from it, if you're trying to solve the ultimate equations.

Eventually, it leads to the same impossible questions, and hence I consider life and the universe an inherent mystery.

The origins and true nature of machines are not mysterious in the slightest, they are a totally other concept.

We are a result of evolution yes, I agree, but the ultimate origins is a mystery greater than even that, or a machine shop shomewhere in the galaxy. And while I find such a shop most unlikely, eventually someone had to build it first, if it existed! And that would be evolution, or God, or both, which ever way you see it

So, on that basis, I'd say the odds are much greater that we are the direct result of the origins of life, that is more likely than someone else having to build us, also!

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EDIT: Also by logic I was referring to you saying, "We created machines, therefore machines are like us" so I was just using an example with the same structure. If machines created us then..... but like you said it can go on forever.
Yeah it will always end with the question "what came before that?" Which is why it usually ends up in a hypothetical argument or a more likely than not based on limited evidence. In the end maybe only the question will ever exist because we are looking for an origin that was never there. Maybe no matter how far back or forward we go it will always remain true that there is no true beginning or end just what was, what is and what will be.

I agree with the OP, the attack has already happened, the attack was SBnD, silent but not deadly

But seriously, provide to the world that there is 1 shred of evidence of a single solitary photograph that couldn't have easily been faked and perhaps the world will take you seriously, I have seen not a single photo that didn't look like a mask/puppet/cgi I'm not convinced