The Oct. 16, 2012 Presidential debate thread

Obama won. Still holding my side from the 'somebody drank their honey boo boo juice" comment.Lol

Originally posted by jam321
reply to post by neo96

 

Don't see it that way Romney can easily win.

Electoral map doesn't look good for him..

But I'm game, how can he easily win?

Take a gander at this:

www.realclearpolitics.com...

reply to post by Annee

Romney says: I'll do this - - I'll do that . . .

He never says HOW he will do it.

That was Romney's every single answer.

"I know how to create jobs", but doesn't say how.

"I know how to grow the economy", but doesn't say how.

"I know how to blah blah blah", but doesn't say how.

reply to post by neo96


Take a look at that map this time next week.

The only thing this debate did was secure my vote beyond a reasonable doubt for Gary Johnson.

Romney's debate plan: DEFLECT! SHIELDS UP FULL 100% DEFLECT DEFLECT!
Obama's debate plan: no matter what Romney says, "ITS A LIE!"

Christ in a #ing cupcake, I can't even take it anymore.

Originally posted by alternateuniverse
reply to post by Druid42

 

I don't think Obama swung any Independents. I'm still voting for Romney as well.

Romney could kill an old lady on stage and you would still be voting for him.

And we will see what the undecideds do in the polls this week. I'm confident Obama will get a bump, but we will see.

If Obama won it wasn't by much. I think a lot of you are overstating how good he was tonight. After his abysmal performance two weeks ago it's not hard to look better.

Republicans = Romney Wins
Democrats = Obama Wins
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Independents = Romney Won

Originally posted by HostileApostle
reply to post by neo96

 

Take a look at that map this time next week.

Real Clear Politics is a right leaning conservative site - - - even though they claim to be non-partisan.

Originally posted by antonia
If Obama won it wasn't by much. I think a lot of you are overstating how good he was tonight. After his abysmal performance two weeks ago it's not hard to look better.

When Fox News declare Obama the winner, it's a knock out for Obama.

Hume and Krauthammer both declare Obama the winner.

I don't think there was a clear winner in this debate, Obama came off better because of the precedent set in debate #1.

Anyone who follows politics with any consistency has learned very little from these debates.

Election day will be interesting. Regardless of the winner I think we are still left with an unsatisfactory government.

Originally posted by alternateuniverse
Republicans = Romney Wins
Democrats = Obama Wins
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Independents = Romney Won

You have proof of that?

Or are you just displaying your desperation?

They were both lying so much it is absolutely frightening.

What really scares me is 98% of the public is too ignorant, biased or apathetic to even know it. How could either one win a debate when they were telling more lies than the truth if you simply looked at their actual records or know the true statistics about the economy.

I think they might as well just do yo mama jokes back and forth instead of debate the issues. Apparently it would be just as effective at swaying voters as what we just watched if the Libya exchange is what most take from this debate. I'm sure good one liners would inspire more re-tweets and get more parody's made, and sadly that seems to be what most voters are basing their decision on.

We really do get the government we deserve.

Originally posted by Annee

Originally posted by HostileApostle
reply to post by neo96

 

Take a look at that map this time next week.

Real Clear Politics is a right leaning conservative site - - - even though they claim to be non-partisan.

RCP does a fairly good job.

They do include a lot of right wing polls in their averages that distort the average a little bit. But still with that, Obama is fine on their electoral map.

Originally posted by PatrickGarrow17
I don't think there was a clear winner in this debate, Obama came off better because of the precedent set in debate #1.

Anyone who follows politics with any consistency has learned very little from these debates.

Obama gave direct answers.

Romney said he will do something - - - and that's pretty much all he said.

Originally posted by Pedro4077
Romneys tough talk towards China was laughable, he is the Outsourcing Messiah.

Really Obama should have called him out on the Bainport fiasco going on in Illinois right now. While he may not have any control over Bain now the fact is he is the one who created the culture and policy they use today.

Originally posted by HostileApostle

Originally posted by Annee

Originally posted by HostileApostle
reply to post by neo96

 

Take a look at that map this time next week.

Real Clear Politics is a right leaning conservative site - - - even though they claim to be non-partisan.

RCP does a fairly good job.

They do include a lot of right wing polls in their averages that distort the average a little bit. But still with that, Obama is fine on their electoral map.

I always look up sites - - who started them - - what they're about - - etc.

Its so easy to be taken in.

The next one should be a rip snorter. The President was a shark tonight. I think he was over confident in the first debate. Romney gave him a wake up call that night, . . . well the President woke up.

Originally posted by PatrickGarrow17
I don't think there was a clear winner in this debate, Obama came off better because of the precedent set in debate #1.

Anyone who follows politics with any consistency has learned very little from these debates.

Election day will be interesting. Regardless of the winner I think we are still left with an unsatisfactory government.

Pretty much, my suspicion is if Romney does win he will do so with a Democratic senate. The Democrats will be mobilized, if the economy falters any more than it has then it is likely the Republicans could lose the house. If Obama get's in it's just going to be more gridlock. There will be no change either way.

Typical, they only brought up points that would earn them points and not any that could cost them votes by offending anyone who might be a problem source.

Such as immigration

Obama stated immigrants would create jobs by starting new businesses. That's BS, immigrants come over, Get on government assistance programs,and only aspire to basic labor, make babies, work at Walmart, and build low riders to race and kill each other on the streets at night while we sleep. Not all, but the majority...not all.

Immigrants should take mandated classes upon becoming citizens on how to achieve higher education and better paying jobs. But they are handed a certificate with a smile, and welcome.
I know these things because I have ask immigrants this straight forward, why.